2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[Guru]

This would be my big board at this point.

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB

11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina

12 F-Noa Essengue-Germany
13 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona

As long as we get one of those 9-13 I think I'm happy, and that's my expectation.

[WindyCityBorn]

Eww Asa, please no.

What is with the Asa Newell hate. Great side, Great form on soft jumper, very good athleticism, hit the boards hard. Played extremely well as true freshman in toughest conference in the history of college basketball. Led UGA to our first NCAA tournament appearance in over a decade.

People on here act like is Patrick Williams or something. He would be a very good pairing with Matas. A true PF and not a wing pretending to be one.

Undersized at the 5. Not quick enough to guard 4s and doesn't have the perimeter game to make up for it on the other end. He's a fine prospect for someone in the 20s, but he's a big meh otherwise.

Honestly if he was a better athlete, you might take the chance, but he's solid and not elite in that regard. Takes a lot of time to load up and get off the ground, and isn't a great lob target. He'll probably project to be a 15-20 bench big at his prime. Will upload his video in a minute.

I disagree that he can’t guard the majority of 4s. I think he can be a quality starter in a couple of years.

[Senor Chang]

Read on Twitter

I wouldn't call Fleming over Yaxel wings, but still good history for long armed wings.

Wow. Incredible return rate when drafting based on those measurables.

I’m sold. #12 should be Fleming or Coward, or Maluach if he somehow slides. Those are the guys.

My top 3 at this point are Flemming, Maluach, or Coward. Then find a way to grab Hasen Yang in the 2nd round or early first if possible. Flemming’s freakish wingspan is just too good to pass up. He can legitimately rotated between 3/4/5 and be a real disruptor defensively.


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[sco]

This would be my big board at this point.

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina
12 F-Noa Essengue-Germany
13 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona

As long as we get one of those 9-13 I think I'm happy, and that's my expectation.

So you have Queen at 5. I would LOVE the teams drafting to agree with you!

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

This draft got me hoping for a Fears AND Traore draft. Show me some vision, FO. Please! Cash in Coby for a mid range lotto pick like Jeremiah and then upgrade our pick if needed for Nolan.

Between here and Bulls Twitter I’m starting to wonder if my gauge of Coby’s value is off, because I can’t see a team trading a lottery pick for one year of cost-controlled Coby in a million years.

He's still young, isn't he, brother? Would / could any team(s) in the NBA view Coby as more of a sure thing, proven performer who still hasn't reached his ceiling and may break out in a year or two?

There’s a very high threshold of player that teams are willing to trade a lottery pick to rent. Coby doesn’t clear it. The team control and upside of those picks are too valuable. It’s not about comparing Coby to a specific prospect like Jeremiah Fears. It’s how he compares to all the prospects available at pick 8. Inevitably, teams are going to have a guy (and contract situation) they like more. Or if they don’t, they’ll use that pick to fish for a better vet (and contract) than Coby.

[TheJordanRule]

Anyone have a line on who the Bulls have meet with so far. Only name I've heard is Sorber.

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

Eww to all of these prospects honestly, but I haven't been following these dudes the way the Bulls have. Their scouts have watched every game. We have to hope the FO has done their homework more than we have. There have been times when they didn't, but they've hit more than missed over the course of the last 20 years. I say we give them the benefit of the doubt after Buz's selection last year.

[Guru]

This would be my big board at this point.

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina
12 F-Noa Essengue-Germany
13 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona

As long as we get one of those 9-13 I think I'm happy, and that's my expectation.

So you have Queen at 5. I would LOVE the teams drafting to agree with you!

LOL, He kept rising every time I watched him. On offense he's just really incredible. Great footwork, balance and handles and scoring. I think those top 8 go before we get a chance to pick.

Is the only real knock his athleticism and then therefore his defense? I think about guys like Luka and Jokic and they have to have been pretty terrible athletes at the combine right?

[Guru]

Can you create a poll within a thread? I want to get the boards rankings of

F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina
F-Carter Bryant-Arizona
F-Noa Essengue-Germany

[Hangtime84]

Guys i like.

Khaman Maluach
Noa Essengue
Rasheer Fleming
Derik Queen
Carter Bryant
Thomas Sorber
Danny Wolf
Cedric Coward
Kasparas Jakucionis

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I think Danny Wolf could make a GM look very smart. A lot to like in this draft based on potential.

Fleming might just be OG 2.0.

[Muzbar]

This would be my big board at this point.

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina
12 F-Noa Essengue-Germany
13 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona

As long as we get one of those 9-13 I think I'm happy, and that's my expectation.

So you have Queen at 5. I would LOVE the teams drafting to agree with you!

Absolutely, 100%.

I really hope some teams in 5-11 somehow take CMB and Queen.

[DuckIII]

Fun fact:

Of the 7 different guys who have win the nba mvp in the last decade, only 3 were drafted in the top 6 (Embiid, Westbrook, and Harden). Giannis, Jokic, SGA and Curry all after that.

Just add Matas now.

[Ice Man]

Just add Matas now.

I am a Bulls fan and I approve of this message.

[Jvaughn]

Sober, Tre Johnson, Asa, and Collin Murray-Boyles that I've read reports on.

Eww Asa, please no.

Eww to all of these prospects honestly, but I haven't been following these dudes the way the Bulls have. Their scouts have watched every game. We have to hope the FO has done their homework more than we have. There have been times when they didn't, but they've hit more than missed over the course of the last 20 years. I say we give them the benefit of the doubt after Buz's selection last year.

Tre would be a dream, but there's no chance he drops to 12. Doesn't hurt to do your due diligence though.

Not giving Bulls benefit of the doubt. Matas dropped which no one was really expecting. Bulls just took the highest ranked player on the board at the time. At least they didn't overthink it I guess.

[kodo]

There were good reasons for Matas to drop. Had a terrible 3P% shooting year (26%), isn't a creative ball handler, best attribute is shotblocking which isn't valued for wings. Tre is the opposite, 40% 3P shooter, shoots it off the dribble, natural scorer, excellent athleticism results at the combine. Would be great if he dropped to 12, but I would be shocked. I could see Kon or Kasparas dropping out of the top 10 but not Tre.

[Muzbar]

There were good reasons for Matas to drop. Had a terrible 3P% shooting year (26%), isn't a creative ball handler, best attribute is shotblocking which isn't valued for wings. Tre is the opposite, 40% 3P shooter, shoots it off the dribble, natural scorer, excellent athleticism results at the combine. Would be great if he dropped to 12, but I would be shocked. I could see Kon or Kasparas dropping out of the top 10 but not Tre.

Perhaps the Bulls may look to trade up for Tre if he falls into the 8-10 range. I doubt it though.

[Chi town]

There were good reasons for Matas to drop. Had a terrible 3P% shooting year (26%), isn't a creative ball handler, best attribute is shotblocking which isn't valued for wings. Tre is the opposite, 40% 3P shooter, shoots it off the dribble, natural scorer, excellent athleticism results at the combine. Would be great if he dropped to 12, but I would be shocked. I could see Kon or Kasparas dropping out of the top 10 but not Tre.

Perhaps the Bulls may look to trade up for Tre if he falls into the 8-10 range. I doubt it though.

That’s what I’ve been saying. If he falls to 8 trade up with POR pick or Ayo.

He won’t though. He will go no later than 5. Could go 3.

[Muzbar]

There were good reasons for Matas to drop. Had a terrible 3P% shooting year (26%), isn't a creative ball handler, best attribute is shotblocking which isn't valued for wings. Tre is the opposite, 40% 3P shooter, shoots it off the dribble, natural scorer, excellent athleticism results at the combine. Would be great if he dropped to 12, but I would be shocked. I could see Kon or Kasparas dropping out of the top 10 but not Tre.

Perhaps the Bulls may look to trade up for Tre if he falls into the 8-10 range. I doubt it though.

That’s what I’ve been saying. If he falls to 8 trade up with POR pick or Ayo.

He won’t though. He will go no later than 5. Could go 3.

Yeah, I doubt he drops out of the top 6, yeah he's got defensive issues but he's got some great length to help him in that regard. I'd trade Coby straight up for him.

[League Circles]

How I'm feeling now:

Guys I'd take who won't fall to us:

Flagg
Harper
Bailey
Edgecomb
Johnson

Guys I'd take and feel good about it in no particular order:

Murray Boyles
Rocco Zikarsky
Khaman Mulauch
Carter Bryant
Thomas Sorber

Guys in contention for the last two spots on my board that I'd be slightly bummed to draft:

Kasparas Jakucionis
Rasheer Fleming
Noa Essengue
Joan Beringer

[League Circles]

I'm relatively high on Jalen Smith as still being a potential long term starter for us, and I'm not that high on Lonzo, Ball, Patrick or Terry at the other starting spot we have up in the air, so I'd like to draft a 2/3 with strong defensively ability and ideally either somebody who attacks the basket or shoots the three well, but I simply don't see many guys that I am confident will be better than that 4 headed monster, so I lean towards a big. Maluach, Zikarsky and Sorber could all be long term good starting Cs for us.

[Dez]

Draft Rocco with our second round pick, massive human with massive upside.