2025 NBA Draft Thread: Detroit Pick Edition

[Note30]

Better handle than Dilly sounds impressive. I'll believe it when I see it.

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The draft is a long ways away. I'll get around to watching some. In the meantime I like to hear what my fellow posters here have to say about it. Do you have an opinion? Which one has better handles?

Edit: OK I looked up some of the most recent highlights for Tahaad Petitford. Nice handle and similar to Dilly, but definitely not better and I would say not quite as good.

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Their handles are different. That in it of itself is not an indicator of good or bad handles.

But Dilly has what you'd call a loose handle.

Pettiford plays with much more of a tight handle.

But that being said, Pettiford doesn't have to work as hard to protect the ball because he can trust his positioning with the ball and his control over it.

He can also split screens with his handle a lot better.

Maybe it's just because I have more tape and minutes watching Dilly but he tends to have to watch the ball a lot more. I'm not saying good handles purely come from control over the ball but it's a pretty big piece.

[KGdaBom]

YouTube is free.

The draft is a long ways away. I'll get around to watching some. In the meantime I like to hear what my fellow posters here have to say about it. Do you have an opinion? Which one has better handles?

Edit: OK I looked up some of the most recent highlights for Tahaad Petitford. Nice handle and similar to Dilly, but definitely not better and I would say not quite as good.

Watch on YouTube

Their handles are different. That in it of itself is not an indicator of good or bad handles.

But Dilly has what you'd call a loose handle.

Pettiford plays with much more of a tight handle.

But that being said, Pettiford doesn't have to work as hard to protect the ball because he can trust his positioning with the ball and his control over it.

He can also split screens with his handle a lot better.

Maybe it's just because I have more tape and minutes watching Dilly but he tends to have to watch the ball a lot more. I'm not saying good handles purely come from control over the ball but it's a pretty big piece.

So functionally you like Petitford's handle better, because Dilly is a little too loosey goosey with it.

[Note30]

The draft is a long ways away. I'll get around to watching some. In the meantime I like to hear what my fellow posters here have to say about it. Do you have an opinion? Which one has better handles?

Edit: OK I looked up some of the most recent highlights for Tahaad Petitford. Nice handle and similar to Dilly, but definitely not better and I would say not quite as good.

Watch on YouTube

Their handles are different. That in it of itself is not an indicator of good or bad handles.

But Dilly has what you'd call a loose handle.

Pettiford plays with much more of a tight handle.

But that being said, Pettiford doesn't have to work as hard to protect the ball because he can trust his positioning with the ball and his control over it.

He can also split screens with his handle a lot better.

Maybe it's just because I have more tape and minutes watching Dilly but he tends to have to watch the ball a lot more. I'm not saying good handles purely come from control over the ball but it's a pretty big piece.

So functionally you like Petitford's handle better, because Dilly is a little too loosey goosey with it.

?? Not what I said at all.

[KGdaBom]

Their handles are different. That in it of itself is not an indicator of good or bad handles.

But Dilly has what you'd call a loose handle.

Pettiford plays with much more of a tight handle.

But that being said, Pettiford doesn't have to work as hard to protect the ball because he can trust his positioning with the ball and his control over it.

He can also split screens with his handle a lot better.

Maybe it's just because I have more tape and minutes watching Dilly but he tends to have to watch the ball a lot more. I'm not saying good handles purely come from control over the ball but it's a pretty big piece.

So functionally you like Petitford's handle better, because Dilly is a little too loosey goosey with it.

?? Not what I said at all.

Then I have no idea what you're saying.

[minimus]

I wonder if TC will draft someone who simply can execute and impact the game like Jaylen Clark. In some sense he should be on opposite development side of Miller/Minott

- high IQ
- high motor
- disciplined
- coachable
- can shoot (for a wing)
- has enough size / athletic tools

Give me any combination of Sorber, Lendeborg, Clifford, Coward, Ryan Kalkbrenner, Maxime Reynaud. Sorber + Coward would be absolute dream scenario. Clifford + Reynaud is realistic.

[moss_is_1]

CMB will be someone who will make an impact because of his defense. Has a chance to be more impactful if he improves as a shooter(has a nice touch inside and decent mechanics, 70% from the line), or if he keeps improving his playmaking. Issue is he's probably a 4, or a pretty small ball 5.

[minimus]

CMB will be someone who will make an impact because of his defense. Has a chance to be more impactful if he improves as a shooter(has a nice touch inside and decent mechanics, 70% from the line), or if he keeps improving his playmaking. Issue is he's probably a 4, or a pretty small ball 5.

After watching him shooting in combine I have zero hopes that he learns to shoot. He reminds me Justise Winslow and it is not a compliment

The only positive news about him from combine was his standing reach almost 9'2" which is near Queen, Wolf, Sorber, Raynaud

[minimus]

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If Rasheer can be developed into Jabari Smith type of stretch four, would you draft him at 17? Can he and Jaden compliment each other as SF/PF forwards?

[minimus]

I wonder if TC can find another Isaiah Hartenstein in this draft: a mobile, high IQ high motor big, with good hands and strength, not necessarily a shooter. Hartenstein is 7'0", 7'2" wingspan, 250 lbs and 9'2" standing reach. I found interesting that Hartenstein had vertical leap 25.5. Some measurements from combine:

CMB: 6'6.5", 7'0", 240lbs, 9'1.5", vertical 34.5
Queen: 6'9", 7'0", 248lbs, 9'1.5", vertical 28
Wolf: 6'10", 7'2", 250lbs, 9'1", vertical 30
Fleming: 6'8", 7'5", 230lbs, 9'1.5"", vertical 30
Lendeborg: 6'8.5", 7'4", 234lbs, 9'1", vertical 31
Condon: 6'11", 7'0", 220lbs, 8'11", vertical 34.5
Sorber: 6'9", 7'6", 260lbs, 9'1.5", -
Niederhauser: 6'11", 7'4", 240lbs, 9'3", vertical 37

[KGdaBom]

Tankathon has changed their Mock. They now have us taking Nique Clifford at 17 and Kam Jones at 31.

[LondonWolf91]

Anyone here interested in Hansen Yang? I like him and think he would be perfect for us at 31 (or even a trade up to late round 1) using pick 31.

[LondonWolf91]

I’m hoping we get Rasheer Fleming and Hansen Yang

[KGdaBom]

I’m hoping we get Rasheer Fleming and Hansen Yang

21 and 43 on Tankathon. If Connelly wants them he can probably get both of them.

[moss_is_1]

Anyone here interested in Hansen Yang? I like him and think he would be perfect for us at 31 (or even a trade up to late round 1) using pick 31.

Absolutely. I just watched a cut up of him against Alex Sarr in the u19 Fiba game from a couple seasons ago.

Really think the draft has some great prospects all over skillset wise. It'll be interesting what we do. From 8 to about 20 I think there's a pretty good group. Then 20-until almost 40 there's another nice collection of guys before it seems to fall off.

[frankenwolf]

USA Today has the Wolves taking Danny Wolf @ 17. I could be satisfied with that.

[minimus]

USA Today has the Wolves taking Danny Wolf @ 17. I could be satisfied with that.

Yeah, although drafting such player might require A LOT of creativity from coaching staff. It is not plug and play.

[jpatrick]

USA Today has the Wolves taking Danny Wolf @ 17. I could be satisfied with that.

Yeah, although drafting such player might require A LOT of creativity from coaching staff. It is not plug and play.

Good player but unless we’re letting Randle and/or Naz go, I don’t see it. He’s not a center despite decent measurements. Or at least not one that will be able to defend. And I just can’t see a third non rim defending big added to Randle/Naz.

I’m also more down on Sorber than I thought I’d be. Watching OKC, I like that center spot to be someone with vertical spacing or ability to space the floor. Sorber is a really good defensive player. Smart player. Good passer. Wouldn’t be sad if he is the pick. But he is below the rim player that shot 16% from 3. Seemed that when he played players with NBA size, he also had difficulty finishing around the rim, as he uses craft/touch instead of power/athleticism.

Unless we’re out on the idea that Dilly is the longterm PG and go Traore, I think I like the wings that might be available at 17 (Carter, Coward, Clifford) more than the bigs. Then circle back for a big at 31 (Yang, Kalkbrenner, Lendeborg, and maybe Beringer or Sorber if they fall).

[KGdaBom]

I still can't get over how highly Tankathon has Cooper Flagg ranked. They give + or - scores from 1-4 on a number of categories. Cooper gets plus marks in 21 cats totaling 55. He gets Zero - marks. The guy ranked 2nd Dylan Harper gets + marks in 9 cats for 14 points and - Marks in 7 cats for -10 points. Total of 4+ points.

[minimus]

I read mixed things about Tyrese Proctor:

- an excellent shooter this year 40.5% 3PT, but only 68% FT

- good passer and scorer, three seasons with ~30MPG, but only 1.8 FTA, 2.2APG, 10.8PPG

- excellent defender but is not viewed as top perimeter defender of this draft

One thing is clear: he is NOT a pure PG, but if he can defend PG/SG, facilitate and hit open threes in NBA (see Delon Wright) would you draft him at 31? In ideal world he gets undrafted and signs two-way contract with MIN, and follows McLaughlin development path.

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[minimus]

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Demin will be in top-10, no way he falls down to 17th, he also shoots well in pre draft workouts. But, I can see him as an ideal fit next to Edwards. Demin is a true offensive engine, he is not only a facilitator like Tyus Jones, Monte Morris. He can create out of pick-and-rolls. The only problem is that under Finch this team is trying to get away from pick-and-roll based offense, but Conley example shows that it might be also due to players skillset. Towns is not natural pick-n-roll, Gobert bad hands require precision passing.