Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team

[doogie_hauser]

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Im not quite sure how reliable this is but **** it I've seen more then enough "he gone" tweets not to give a ****
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It's not official until it's been reported/tweeted by Shams !!!

But yes I really hope he stays a Buck.

[YogurtProducer]

The return won't be as good as people expect

Teams are not gonna sell the entire farm for a guy that can leave in 2 years... which he will if you sell all your good players and picks.

this guy gets it.

Neither of you get it. That's a standard length. Players are signing 3-4 yr extensions & doing so cuz they're content at the time.

Paul George had 2 yrs left, he's far worse that Giannis, & we saw that big return.

Using that specific trade and circumstance is so disingenuous.

That was to get PG13 AND Kawhi.

It also was in a vastly different CBA than we are in now.

It also was a very specific circumstance with Ballmer

[Bernman]

this guy gets it.

Neither of you get it. That's a standard length. Players are signing 3-4 yr extensions & doing so cuz they're content at the time.

Paul George had 2 yrs left, he's far worse that Giannis, & we saw that big return.

Using that specific trade and circumstance is so disingenuous.

That was to get PG13 AND Kawhi.

It also was in a vastly different CBA than we are in now.

It also was a very specific circumstance with Ballmer

That's disingenuous. It's a completely separate move. It didn't even help them clear significant cap to sign Kawhi. If Giannis goes to Brooklyn, who's had a hard-on for him for yrs, it would help them sign another FA w/ their cap space to pair with him. So that's a non-point.

[Capn'O]

It sounds like everyone with the Bucks will make their best effort to do right by the current arrangement but if they can't then he'll likely request out.

[doogie_hauser]

It sounds like everyone with the Bucks will make their best effort to do right by the current arrangement but if they can't then he'll likely request out.

Hopefully Giannis agent isn't that slimeball Rich Paul or he definitely would tell Giannos to get out of dodge and leave Milwaukee

I don't care what anyone else says, greedy and self serving players agents like Rich Paul are bad for for the league and its image.

[Richard4444]

It sounds like everyone with the Bucks will make their best effort to do right by the current arrangement but if they can't then he'll likely request out.

Assuming elevating to a championship-level roster without Lillard is the condition for Giannis to stay, we can almost say he will be traded because it's a near-impossible task.

[durden_tyler]

It sounds like everyone with the Bucks will make their best effort to do right by the current arrangement but if they can't then he'll likely request out.

Hopefully Giannis agent isn't that slimeball Rich Paul or he definitely would tell Giannos to get out of dodge and leave Milwaukee

I don't care what anyone else says, greedy and self serving players agents like Rich Paul are bad for for the league and its image.

How is Giannis getting out of Milwaukee bad for the NBA and its image? Giannis, even if forced, to a contender will be a box office hit!


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[Pachinko_]

It sounds like everyone with the Bucks will make their best effort to do right by the current arrangement but if they can't then he'll likely request out.

Assuming elevating to a championship-level roster without Lillard is the condition for Giannis to stay, we can almost say he will be traded because it's a near-impossible task.

If there's one thing I've learned about Giannis over the years, and I watched his very first official game live, in Greece, years before the draft, is that he doesn't like change. He has the same childhood friends, the same sweetheart, goes to the same places, follows the same daily routines, thinks the same way, says the same things. I wouldn't put it past him to somehow talk himself into staying with the Bucks just because of that, maybe even after retirement, like get some sort of coaching role with the Bucks of something. Even though what you just said is blatantly obvious to everyone, including him, he's not stupid. But he does have a different sense of what happiness in life looks like than most other people.
Who knows? we'll see. Personally I'd like to see him in NY.

[YogurtProducer]

Neither of you get it. That's a standard length. Players are signing 3-4 yr extensions & doing so cuz they're content at the time.

Paul George had 2 yrs left, he's far worse that Giannis, & we saw that big return.

Using that specific trade and circumstance is so disingenuous.

That was to get PG13 AND Kawhi.

It also was in a vastly different CBA than we are in now.

It also was a very specific circumstance with Ballmer

That's disingenuous. It's a completely separate move. It didn't even help them clear significant cap to sign Kawhi. If Giannis goes to Brooklyn, who's had a hard-on for him for yrs, it would help them sign another FA w/ their cap space to pair with him. So that's a non-point.

Except it wasnt a completely separate move. Kawhi told LAC if they get PG they get Kawhi, so they had to massively overpay knowing theyre getting two guys.

[th87]

The Simmons pod had Ben Thompson on to talk about Giannis trades from a Milwaukee perspective. He's so insufferable. He's down on Mobley, down on Amen, down on Jabari. It sounds like he expects '85 Jordan and multiple guaranteed top 5 picks for Giannis and for the Bucks to be in a position to contend for a title while their picks are owned by other teams.

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. You guys are insufferable in your coveting of Giannis while not having to sacrifice hardly anything to get him. Then Ben and co. are insufferable as a response and need to point out what should be obvious, which is that Mobley and Thompson are inferior to arguably the best player in the game. And there's even reticence to trade them. Well then what's the point in bringing it up?

Teams that trade away their superstars never get fair or equal value. That’s just how it’s always been. Beggars can’t be choosers.

I missed where the Bucks have to trade Giannis at all?

[th87]

In sum, Jimmy went for less because he made himself far less desirable. Giannis is 30 and is under contract for two full seasons before he has a P.O. These two situations are not the same.

just quoting this part, forgive me. i think this is the point I wanted to make. Giannis could also, if he wanted, make himself far less desirable. not saying he would, as he seems like a pretty chill guy overall. but if he did go that route, i think you could expect the return to be less.

idk, every time i think there is a limit to what superstars can do with their leverage in the player empowerment era, even when under seemingly mutually beneficial contracts, i am surprised. lol. personally, i hope he and MIL find a way to work it out so he can stay there.

maybe i'm weird, but to me basketball isn't just for ballheads. there are kids in MIL who grew up with him, have his poster on their wall, probably wouldnt have watched the NBA if he didn't come along. he has singlehandedly (hyperbole but whatever) created an entire new era of bucks basketball where the team is relevant and interesting. we already saw luka leave dal where he was beloved. id prefer not to see another community go through that.

This is exactly it right here. Giannis is basically the best thing to happen to Milwaukee and has brought the community together. My mom talks about him.

I have no interest in trading all that meaning for draft picks to produce a mediocre team. And to let Silver win.

[Packbuckman]

The GM needs to stop doing stupid **** like trading for kuzma and including our 1st rd draft choice. Giannis with shooters is going to be competitive they need to get younger and more athletic which they did a bit at the end of last year. Losing to the pacers doesn’t look as bad now as they are playing better than most people would have thought.

[Big nick]

Lakers will probably get him like for 3 seconds lol. Okc trades Dort and Chet and 3 firsts for him and then we can all talk about how untouchable he is.

[okboomer]

The GM needs to stop doing stupid **** like trading for kuzma and including our 1st rd draft choice. Giannis with shooters is going to be competitive they need to get younger and more athletic which they did a bit at the end of last year. Losing to the pacers doesn’t look as bad now as they are playing better than most people would have thought.

While I agree with you on this premise, especially in the east. They wont accomplish much with Doc.

[Profound23]

Giannis met with Bucks. Not only did he not demand or request a trade but Giannis expressed his eagerness to move forward with Milwaukee and win another title.

Let's see how the media spins this now.

[Packbuckman]

The GM needs to stop doing stupid **** like trading for kuzma and including our 1st rd draft choice. Giannis with shooters is going to be competitive they need to get younger and more athletic which they did a bit at the end of last year. Losing to the pacers doesn’t look as bad now as they are playing better than most people would have thought.

While I agree with you on this premise, especially in the east. They wont accomplish much with Doc.

I agree Doc needs to go it took him being down in playoffs to change the lineup when it was so obvious if he would have done it sooner no telling what would have happened.

[Hornet Mania]

https://www.tsn.ca/edge/betting/giannis-antetokounmpo-next-team-betting-odds-toronto-raptors-san-antonio-spurs-houston-rockets-1.2310455

Spurs current favourites with the bookies if he wants a trade. Interesting

I mean, obviously. They can send Milwaukee back the most attractive individual asset to offer the Bucks (#2 pick), plus another lotto pick this year, and also have plenty of other future assets to add without gutting their roster entirely. If I were the Bucks and looking to trade they'd be my first call.

Giannis/Wemby/Castle/Fox is instantly a serious contender.

A trade with SAS does right by Giannis sending him to a competent organization which will be in contention. It also does right by Milwaukee sending back two lotto picks for immediate excitement, some role players for salary purposes, plus another 2-4 picks and swaps in future years.

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if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.

[Kawaii Leonard]

Yeah he’s going to Toronto

[TheRaptor!]

Yeah he’s going to Toronto

The writings on the wall tbh, Milwaukee is just trying to drive the price up.

The more quiet it is, the more likley its gonna happen