Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[GoCeltics123]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

[darrendaye]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

Still like the Charlotte option. Can do Nurkic + Okogie or Josh Green + Okogie + min salary contract.

Curious how you see DeMar fitting, particularly once Tatum is back. If 25/26 playoff Tatum is catch and shoot heavy while DeRozen is the offense driver, I could get behind it. You're forced to move Porzingis if there's a 2nd apron mandate, which I don't like.

If the Charlotte deal couldn't get worked out, IMO, the next best route is a big contract to stretch and a smallish contract to keep.

[celticgreenie]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

DeMar be also interesting for other reasons. His defense would be subpar but his mid range game is elite and although Jaylen Brown has a good midrange game, learning from DeMar could take his own game to another level. All this would been helpful when we played the Knicks and our lead was evaporating and it would have been nice to have a player or two who could just sink some midrange shots like they were layups. And if the Celtics players really believe they can still compete without Tatum next year, then you definitely need another strong offensive option next to JB.

[redslastlaugh]

Danny Ainge is enjoying a comeback season.
Pritchard wins 6th man, Nesmith has 30pts in Conf Finals
And now Brad, for 2nd time in a few months, maybe has to pay picks to undo a decision he just made.
I don't think in 18 yrs Danny Ainge even one time paid picks to get off a bad contract, maybe he did with Jajaun Johnson or something
but maybe never, Ainge loved getting picks, making picks but not spending picks, lol

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

[Shak_Celts]

Danny Ainge is enjoying a comeback season.
Pritchard wins 6th man, Nesmith has 30pts in Conf Finals
And now Brad, for 2nd time in a few months, maybe has to pay picks to undo a decision he just made.
I don't think in 18 yrs Danny Ainge even one time paid picks to get off a bad contract, maybe he did with Jajaun Johnson or something
but maybe never, Ainge loved getting picks, making picks but not spending picks, lol

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

Pretty easy without this new cba around. Go back to old rules and Brad wouldn’t have to either.

[ConstableGeneva]

Danny Ainge is enjoying a comeback season.
Pritchard wins 6th man, Nesmith has 30pts in Conf Finals
And now Brad, for 2nd time in a few months, maybe has to pay picks to undo a decision he just made.
I don't think in 18 yrs Danny Ainge even one time paid picks to get off a bad contract, maybe he did with Jajaun Johnson or something
but maybe never, Ainge loved getting picks, making picks but not spending picks, lol

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

Yep, It was Brad who had to spend a pick to get off Kemba's bad contract which Ainge signed.

[redslastlaugh]

In Brad's defense, he said he didn't know the Grousbecks were selling until the announcement was made public. So Brad was working under one understanding when he made these moves and then the business conditions changed. Have to remember that factor

[yeleven11]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

I would expand this to have the kings take tillman with us taking keon ellis. Then if giannis is staying in milwaukee, i would flip demar for portis+connaughton. Both portis and connaughton make less than the nontaxpayer MLE and teams can use the nontaxpayer MLE as a trade exception. I think we would be able to find a team to absorb one of those contracts into their MLE maybe with a second round pick. Going from jrue’s salary to one of portis/connaughton saves a ton of money and i like keon ellis a lot as a rotation piece.

[darrendaye]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

I would expand this to have the kings take tillman with us taking keon ellis. Then if giannis is staying in milwaukee, i would flip demar for portis+connaughton. Both portis and connaughton make less than the nontaxpayer MLE and teams can use the nontaxpayer MLE as a trade exception. I think we would be able to find a team to absorb one of those contracts into their MLE maybe with a second round pick. Going from jrue’s salary to one of portis/connaughton saves a ton of money and i like keon ellis a lot as a rotation piece.

Hate to break it to you, but, there's a fair chance Tillman will be in the mix for a rotation spot next year.

[Fierce1]

Brad needs to setup the Cs for a playoff run in case JT can return in March next year.

Tatum's dad said JT will be out 8-9 months.

There's a chance JT returns next season.

[yeleven11]

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

I would expand this to have the kings take tillman with us taking keon ellis. Then if giannis is staying in milwaukee, i would flip demar for portis+connaughton. Both portis and connaughton make less than the nontaxpayer MLE and teams can use the nontaxpayer MLE as a trade exception. I think we would be able to find a team to absorb one of those contracts into their MLE maybe with a second round pick. Going from jrue’s salary to one of portis/connaughton saves a ton of money and i like keon ellis a lot as a rotation piece.

Hate to break it to you, but, there's a fair chance Tillman will be in the mix for a rotation spot next year.

I love Tillman and loved him pre-draft but unfortunately it’s over for him that knee injury must have cooked him lol he just hasn’t moved the same since

[darrendaye]

I would expand this to have the kings take tillman with us taking keon ellis. Then if giannis is staying in milwaukee, i would flip demar for portis+connaughton. Both portis and connaughton make less than the nontaxpayer MLE and teams can use the nontaxpayer MLE as a trade exception. I think we would be able to find a team to absorb one of those contracts into their MLE maybe with a second round pick. Going from jrue’s salary to one of portis/connaughton saves a ton of money and i like keon ellis a lot as a rotation piece.

Hate to break it to you, but, there's a fair chance Tillman will be in the mix for a rotation spot next year.

I love Tillman and loved him pre-draft but unfortunately it’s over for him that knee injury must have cooked him lol he just hasn’t moved the same since

I'm not vouching for him, but if you look at the numbers at 4/5 with Tatum down, Horford more likely to leave than stay IMO, and Porzingis' situation, it's SUPER thin and that's assuming Kornet returns.

[ConstableGeneva]

I think the mandate was clear for Brad -- build a championship team. Got the go signal from ownership to do whatever it takes to accomplish that. He did. Only two guys remain from the team Ainge left with Brad. Clearly, those guys they got rid of weren't good enough to get the job done (incl. Smart).

We used to complain about Ainge not spending picks and owners being cheap. Now we complain we have a couple of big contracts on the books and not a ton of young guys on the pipeline. I think generally fans are just hard to please unless everything goes exactly the way they imagine it to be.

[165bows]

I think the mandate was clear for Brad -- build a championship team. Got the go signal from ownership to do whatever it takes to accomplish that. He did. Only two guys remain from the team Ainge left with Brad. Clearly, those guys they got rid of weren't good enough to get the job done (incl. Smart).

We used to complain about Ainge not spending picks and owners being cheap. Now we complain we have a couple of big contracts on the books and not a ton of young guys on the pipeline. I think generally fans are just hard to please unless everything goes exactly the way they imagine it to be.

The entitlement around here is thick

[Fierce1]

I think the mandate was clear for Brad -- build a championship team. Got the go signal from ownership to do whatever it takes to accomplish that. He did. Only two guys remain from the team Ainge left with Brad. Clearly, those guys they got rid of weren't good enough to get the job done (incl. Smart).

We used to complain about Ainge not spending picks and owners being cheap. Now we complain we have a couple of big contracts on the books and not a ton of young guys on the pipeline. I think generally fans are just hard to please unless everything goes exactly the way they imagine it to be.

The entitlement around here is thick

[Fierce1]

Just compare the 64-win Celtics of 2024 and 64-win Cavs of 2025.

Both ended the regular season as the #1 offense.

We all know how it ended for both teams after 64 wins.

That's why we can't take last season for granted.

It's very hard to win a championship in the NBA.

[playa-hater]

Reading this thread. Just depresses the s*** out of me. I really hope there are better options than what I am reading..

[chrisab123]

Brian Robb of Mass Live lists 7 realistic Jrue Holiday trades.
All 7 require Boston to attach draft capital, according to BRobb
Is Robb hearing from sources that it's gonna take draft compensation to move Jrue, if so that's depressing given our future draft pick stash

https://www.masslive.com/celtics/2025/05/jrue-holiday-trade-scenarios-7-realistic-deals-involving-celtics-guard.html

I hope they don't have to use draft compensation to get rid of him, Jay King was claiming he heard he was a postive asset and teams want him. Jake Fischer said the opposite though.

I still say Jrue to the Kings for DeMar is the most likely trade where you don't have to give up anything, since DeMar has zero market and the Kings need a PG

No chance that happens. DeMar is a black hole offensively. No thanks

[chrisab123]

I think the mandate was clear for Brad -- build a championship team. Got the go signal from ownership to do whatever it takes to accomplish that. He did. Only two guys remain from the team Ainge left with Brad. Clearly, those guys they got rid of weren't good enough to get the job done (incl. Smart).

We used to complain about Ainge not spending picks and owners being cheap. Now we complain we have a couple of big contracts on the books and not a ton of young guys on the pipeline. I think generally fans are just hard to please unless everything goes exactly the way they imagine it to be.

Now the fans are tired of winning and want to blow it up.

[redslastlaugh]

The way that I look at the repeater tax situation is quite a bit different from most of the posters.

The projected $200+ million luxury tax for this upcoming season is so unworkable for the new owners that it may result in significant depletion in our long term viability as contender around JT.

It's not about complaining that I'm not getting my way or whatever. It's that the only way out of this tax situation is that some other team(s) step up to relieve the salary pressure we're under. This dependency presents an opportunity for our competitors to badly damage us.

Ultimately, we'll know by the draft, because we probably need to use our draft picks this year as part of the tax solution. So we won't have to wait long for some answers.

I hope Mike and Brad find a great solution that sustains the next five years of JT, because like we saw with the Bucks this year, when you are completely depleted of draft picks and young players, then the star starts talking about leaving.

So it's not just complaining that guys got paid -- Jrue's my 2nd favorite Celtic. It's the concern that if we can't get a good resolution to the tax problem, we will lose the resources we need (draft picks, etc) to have more great teams for a while.

I think the mandate was clear for Brad -- build a championship team. Got the go signal from ownership to do whatever it takes to accomplish that. He did. ...... We used to complain about Ainge not spending picks and owners being cheap. Now we complain we have a couple of big contracts on the books and not a ton of young guys on the pipeline. I think generally fans are just hard to please unless everything goes exactly the way they imagine it to be.