Giannis to Raptors

[JonHeist]

Spoiler:

No. But I do think that relationships matter. I wouldn't have Toronto on my short list for sure, but I do think Masai gives them maybe an in some other teams in similar positions might not have.

the "giannis has a close relationship with masai" story was invented by a toronto sports talk radio host and has been repeated as gospel all over the internet ever since

also a big fat no on this deal lol

Masai helped Giannis’s family migrate from Nigeria to Greece.

This wasn’t “invented” by a sports radio host, although it was reported in the Toronto Star, which is a major paper.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/greek-star-antetokoumpo-s-reach-extends-to-toronto/article_6f3e2496-6e05-5134-9496-865c7988e7c2.html



Are you randomly calling this an “invented” story without proof?

There’s literally video of Masai talking about being close to Giannis family.

yeah man the only connection is helping him get a visa back around draft time

there is no confirmation anywhere that they've ever even talked to each other since the summer of 2013

meanwhile raptors fans act like they eat dinner with eachothers' families every week and everyone believes it cuz both parties are nigerian

[One_and_Done]

Even if they were close friends, Giannis still isn't leaving Milwaukee for Toronto.

[zimpy27]

Even if they were close friends, Giannis still isn't leaving Milwaukee for Toronto.

As an international person myself the only US city I'd prefer to live in over Toronto would be New York.

I know Toronto, New York, Chicago, Boston all have big Greek communities, this may be a big factor for Giannis and family.

I'd have thought Nets, Knicks, Raptors were high on Giannis's list.

[One_and_Done]

Even if they were close friends, Giannis still isn't leaving Milwaukee for Toronto.

As an international person myself the only US city I'd prefer to live in over Toronto would be New York.

I know Toronto, New York, Chicago, Boston all have big Greek communities, this may be a big factor for Giannis and family.

I'd have thought Nets, Knicks, Raptors were high on Giannis's list.

Euro stars tend to be very loyal. I have never seen one demand a trade from their first team. Ever (unless you count Porzingis, who was on the most dysfunctional franchise). Giannis has had multiple chances to leave and has never done it. If he's going at age 30, I'm pretty sure it's to a contender (and I doubt he goes at all). Toronto is not a contender, and if all he wants is a cooler and more multicultural city to live in then he can just go to Brooklyn. Giannis recently said his favourite place to play in was Florida, which should be no surprise. Not alot of players like colder cities.

[wegotthabeet]

other teams can beat this offer (easily)

Like who? If you’re beating this offer (easily) then you’re gutting your team and pick trove. I mean it’s possible, but easily nah.

Raptors don’t have the depth for this type of move regardless.

[zimpy27]

I don't think Giannis will go to an instant contender.

I think he makes a move to a city he wants to move his family too and one that has potential to build on to a contender with Giannis there.

[MessiahUjiri]

Spoiler:

the "giannis has a close relationship with masai" story was invented by a toronto sports talk radio host and has been repeated as gospel all over the internet ever since

also a big fat no on this deal lol

Masai helped Giannis’s family migrate from Nigeria to Greece.

This wasn’t “invented” by a sports radio host, although it was reported in the Toronto Star, which is a major paper.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/raptors/greek-star-antetokoumpo-s-reach-extends-to-toronto/article_6f3e2496-6e05-5134-9496-865c7988e7c2.html



Are you randomly calling this an “invented” story without proof?

There’s literally video of Masai talking about being close to Giannis family.

yeah man the only connection is helping him get a visa back around draft time

there is no confirmation anywhere that they've ever even talked to each other since the summer of 2013

meanwhile raptors fans act like they eat dinner with eachothers' families every week and everyone believes it cuz both parties are nigerian

Why u so salty? You changed the goal posts when you got proven to be a liar.

[JayMKE]

Bucks dont want Raptors crap, the picks are not worth much with Giannis on the team. This is going to be a hell no, Toronto doesn't have the assets so no use tinkering.

[JayMKE]

I don't think Giannis will go to an instant contender.

I think he makes a move to a city he wants to move his family too and one that has potential to build on to a contender with Giannis there.

he'd just stay in Milwaukee in that scenario

[zimpy27]

I don't think Giannis will go to an instant contender.

I think he makes a move to a city he wants to move his family too and one that has potential to build on to a contender with Giannis there.

he'd just stay in Milwaukee in that scenario

He very well may.

I still think that's the most likely things he does. But I also am not Giannis, I can't say with certainty. I think other options are possible and some are more probable than others.

[JayMKE]

I don't think Giannis will go to an instant contender.

I think he makes a move to a city he wants to move his family too and one that has potential to build on to a contender with Giannis there.

he'd just stay in Milwaukee in that scenario

He very well may.

I still think that's the most likely things he does. But I also am not Giannis, I can't say with certainty. I think other options are possible and some are more probable than others.

Giannis's only issues(that are only speculated from piecing together interviews with his comments on winning) are basketball ones not how the organization or city has treated him. Giannis likes LA, NYC, Miami, San Fran as much as any other superstar so if I were worried about him picking another locality those would it. He's not going to choose to go Toronto for winning or comfort.

[zimpy27]

he'd just stay in Milwaukee in that scenario

He very well may.

I still think that's the most likely things he does. But I also am not Giannis, I can't say with certainty. I think other options are possible and some are more probable than others.

Giannis's only issues(that are only speculated from piecing together interviews with his comments on winning) are basketball ones not how the organization or city has treated him. Giannis likes LA, NYC, Miami, San Fran as much as any other superstar so if I were worried about him picking another locality those would it. He's not going to choose to go Toronto for winning or comfort.

Those other teams have better potential than Bucks though. That's the point.

[JayMKE]

He very well may.

I still think that's the most likely things he does. But I also am not Giannis, I can't say with certainty. I think other options are possible and some are more probable than others.

Giannis's only issues(that are only speculated from piecing together interviews with his comments on winning) are basketball ones not how the organization or city has treated him. Giannis likes LA, NYC, Miami, San Fran as much as any other superstar so if I were worried about him picking another locality those would it. He's not going to choose to go Toronto for winning or comfort.

Those other teams have better potential than Bucks though. That's the point.

What other teams? Regardless, its not much of a point since Giannis has never once stated any desire to be traded or leave. Toronto would not have the best offer and it would not be where Giannis would choose to go.

[zimpy27]

Giannis's only issues(that are only speculated from piecing together interviews with his comments on winning) are basketball ones not how the organization or city has treated him. Giannis likes LA, NYC, Miami, San Fran as much as any other superstar so if I were worried about him picking another locality those would it. He's not going to choose to go Toronto for winning or comfort.

Those other teams have better potential than Bucks though. That's the point.

What other teams? Regardless, its not much of a point since Giannis has never once stated any desire to be traded or leave. Toronto would not have the best offer and it would not be where Giannis would choose to go.

This is the trade board, we discuss possibilities.

I think you're closing this off in your mind and just stating things as absolutes. These possibilities are unlikely but we still discuss them.

[JayMKE]

Those other teams have better potential than Bucks though. That's the point.

What other teams? Regardless, its not much of a point since Giannis has never once stated any desire to be traded or leave. Toronto would not have the best offer and it would not be where Giannis would choose to go.

This is the trade board, we discuss possibilities.

I think you're closing this off in your mind and just stating things as absolutes. These possibilities are unlikely but we still discuss them.

Isn't that what we're doing right now? Am I wrong about my last sentence?

[Mr Swagtastic]

Bucks dont want Raptors crap, the picks are not worth much with Giannis on the team. This is going to be a hell no, Toronto doesn't have the assets so no use tinkering.

You've been here long enough, you can get your point across better than using words like crap to describe a teams assets. Barnes isn't crap anyways 20/8/6/2/1 isn't awful for a 23 year old who plays elite defense

[One_and_Done]

Bucks dont want Raptors crap, the picks are not worth much with Giannis on the team. This is going to be a hell no, Toronto doesn't have the assets so no use tinkering.

You've been here long enough, you can get your point across better than using words like crap to describe a teams assets. Barnes isn't crap anyways 20/8/6/2/1 isn't awful for a 23 year old who plays elite defense

Barnes is a flawed player. You don't want him on a team that's trying to win at the highest levels. It would actually sabotage the Bucks rebuild efforts to have to try and build around this guy, just as it has sabotaged the Raptors.

[Johnston]

Bucks dont want Raptors crap, the picks are not worth much with Giannis on the team. This is going to be a hell no, Toronto doesn't have the assets so no use tinkering.

You've been here long enough, you can get your point across better than using words like crap to describe a teams assets. Barnes isn't crap anyways 20/8/6/2/1 isn't awful for a 23 year old who plays elite defense

Barnes is a flawed player. You don't want him on a team that's trying to win at the highest levels. It would actually sabotage the Bucks rebuild efforts to have to try and build around this guy, just as it has sabotaged the Raptors.

When was the last time you saw him try to play for a team trying to win? Pretty sure the raptors have been tanking since he won ROY and has had freak injuries over the past 2 years missing a ton of time (broke. Orbital, broken hand etc). The coach has been very vocal that these past 2 years are purely developmental. Lots of great NBA players aren't perfect at everything (Giannis doesn't have any flaws?). Also, you don't want a 3/4 who can guard almost every position with elite D, who puts up 19/8/6/ and 2.5stocks on a winning team? Maybe not as a #1 option, but I'd say at worst, SB is a Siakam level player.

[One_and_Done]

You've been here long enough, you can get your point across better than using words like crap to describe a teams assets. Barnes isn't crap anyways 20/8/6/2/1 isn't awful for a 23 year old who plays elite defense

Barnes is a flawed player. You don't want him on a team that's trying to win at the highest levels. It would actually sabotage the Bucks rebuild efforts to have to try and build around this guy, just as it has sabotaged the Raptors.

When was the last time you saw him try to play for a team trying to win? Pretty sure the raptors have been tanking since he won ROY and has had freak injuries over the past 2 years missing a ton of time (broke. Orbital, broken hand etc). The coach has been very vocal that these past 2 years are purely developmental. Lots of great NBA players aren't perfect at everything (Giannis doesn't have any flaws?). Also, you don't want a 3/4 who can guard almost every position with elite D, who puts up 19/8/6/ and 2.5stocks on a winning team? Maybe not as a #1 option, but I'd say at worst, SB is a Siakam level player.

He can't shoot 3s. He's also nothing like Siakam on offense. A 3&D player without the 3, but who needs the ball, holds little appeal to me.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Bucks dont want Raptors crap, the picks are not worth much with Giannis on the team. This is going to be a hell no, Toronto doesn't have the assets so no use tinkering.

You've been here long enough, you can get your point across better than using words like crap to describe a teams assets. Barnes isn't crap anyways 20/8/6/2/1 isn't awful for a 23 year old who plays elite defense

Barnes is a flawed player. You don't want him on a team that's trying to win at the highest levels. It would actually sabotage the Bucks rebuild efforts to have to try and build around this guy, just as it has sabotaged the Raptors.

How did he sabotage Toronto? The Raptors were running on fumes from deep playoff runs the team was clearly stuck at a crossroads and Masai kept trying to hold onto the idea of a Siakam/FVV/OG Anunoby and Barnes new wave team but Pascal, Barnes and OG were not a great fit neither one is a guard or center you had OG as a SF and two talented PFs in Barnes and Pascal who like Barnes needs the ball to be at his best.

Masai should have moved OG and Pascal a year earlier for better returns and commented to a full rebuild. Point is Barnes is far from crap which is what my original point was. If Milwaukee doesn't want him I am sure other teams would be willing to move pieces for him.

I just think Milwaukee isn't going to get Thurs record haul of top draft picks/high end prospects/cap relief that some expect. If San Antonio or Dallas give you their pick plus multiple others including swaps and say tyre Spurs add Castle to it and Sochan that's a pretty solid offer I can't see teams beating that and still having the team that Giannis would want to be a part of.