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[Ron Swanson]

I don't know why people think it's a given Trent is back. I'm assuming he's gone unless we fork over the full MLE or he's just feeling charitable and signs the handshake 1+1 deal now with the 4-yr, $50 million extension on the table next year. How do we feel about Ty Jerome on the MLE? Cleveland will be another tax team that likely won't be able to re-sign any of their key bench guys.

[JayMKE]

Think we probably gotta hope to find some other player looking to prove it on a cheap 1 year deal, not as enticing but there should be time available

[Bango]

I love Jrue and would take him back as a 20 mpg, vibes guy who is useful. But let’s wait until he gets bought out by whatever trade holds Boston over the coals to take his deal.

Man, I would love him back in Milwaukee...but there's zero chance he comes back after how he was traded. I'd see him going back an LA team before anything.

[soxperry]

It's funny how polarizing Kuz/Pat for Jrue + a late 1st is. I think it's a no brainer and others think its the dumbest move possible.

Jrue gives you a solid 30mpg next season, easing more load off of Giannis then Kuzma will. Yeah we have to eat an extra 12M? in year 3 vs Kuzma but that's your argument? Jrue will really help out next year and the year after he at worst would be an overpaid 6th man. Who knows what happens in year 3, maybe he retires or maybe we trade him as an expiring. Jrue and KPJ is at least a decent enough backcourt for next year so Giannis isn't completely alone and we'd get a 1st out of it. Not to mention how great of a teammate he is, that's something that is under appreciated especially during a "gap year."

$14 million in year 2, $37 million in year 3, plus you've dealt a very valuable pick

We can do better dealing that pick. That starts with sending Kuzma to suckers that actually want him, like the Lakers, Mavericks, or Kings

Jrue would be playing SF for us, as Trent and Green will be a big part of our rotation.

You misunderstood

Hes saying we got a pick in the deal and give up only kuzma and pat. I dont think thats realistic but who knows

[rayallenscalves]

I don't know why people think it's a given Trent is back. I'm assuming he's gone unless we fork over the full MLE or he's just feeling charitable and signs the handshake 1+1 deal now with the 4-yr, $50 million extension on the table next year. How do we feel about Ty Jerome on the MLE? Cleveland will be another tax team that likely won't be able to re-sign any of their key bench guys.

Maybe you sell Trent on being the #2 in this offense with Dame out. That could lead to a lot more of those breakout games he had against Indiana.

[engelmartin]

Kuminga is essentially just Kuzma, right?

Am I missing something with him?

I think he’s still got upside. And he never looks totally lost out there like Kuz but that isn’t supported by stats.

[jakecronus8]

My last hope is lining everything up with when Dame's money comes off the books. Liked Trent this year but we should not be adding any money longer than 2 years. Try to find ways to take on bad money for picks now so you have more to play with later.

[raferfenix]

Knowing Horst, he'd be looking to trade our 1st in 31. If it means keeping Giannis, I'm all for it.

I think we're underrating the possibility of Horst scouring the league to see if we could bring back a piece with this pick that'd get Giannis to buy in.

Yes saving 2031 and the 2032 swap to trade in a bigger bundle of picks next offseason could be the move for any number of reasons -- the least of which being that Giannis can sign an extension in tandem.

But even then it's not like this would be the first time the Bucks made a bad move at Giannis' behest either!

Horst traded the farm for Jrue before Giannis was locked in for that matter.

[pifhluk23]

I don't know why people think it's a given Trent is back. I'm assuming he's gone unless we fork over the full MLE or he's just feeling charitable and signs the handshake 1+1 deal now with the 4-yr, $50 million extension on the table next year. How do we feel about Ty Jerome on the MLE? Cleveland will be another tax team that likely won't be able to re-sign any of their key bench guys.

Eh I would take him for cheap but full MLE for a guy who has 1 good year and stunk in all but 1 of the IND series scares me. I'd rather spend it somewhere else.

[Bernman]

Knowing Horst, he'd be looking to trade our 1st in 31. If it means keeping Giannis, I'm all for it.

I think we're underrating the possibility of Horst scouring the league to see if we could bring back a piece with this pick that'd get Giannis to buy in.

Yes saving 2031 and the 2032 swap to trade in a bigger bundle of picks next offseason could be the move for any number of reasons -- the least of which being that Giannis can sign an extension in tandem.

But even then it's not like this would be the first time the Bucks made a bad move at Giannis' behest either!

Horst traded the farm for Jrue before Giannis was locked in for that matter.

If Horst trades it again, the lesson at least needs to be to acquire someone young enough that could play w/ Giannis more than a couple yrs, & actually has re-trade value. Last 2 times he got old, and older.

[pifhluk23]

It's funny how polarizing Kuz/Pat for Jrue + a late 1st is. I think it's a no brainer and others think its the dumbest move possible.

Jrue gives you a solid 30mpg next season, easing more load off of Giannis then Kuzma will. Yeah we have to eat an extra 12M? in year 3 vs Kuzma but that's your argument? Jrue will really help out next year and the year after he at worst would be an overpaid 6th man. Who knows what happens in year 3, maybe he retires or maybe we trade him as an expiring. Jrue and KPJ is at least a decent enough backcourt for next year so Giannis isn't completely alone and we'd get a 1st out of it. Not to mention how great of a teammate he is, that's something that is under appreciated especially during a "gap year."

$14 million in year 2, $37 million in year 3, plus you've dealt a very valuable pick

We can do better dealing that pick. That starts with sending Kuzma to suckers that actually want him, like the Lakers, Mavericks, or Kings

Jrue would be playing SF for us, as Trent and Green will be a big part of our rotation.

We're getting Boston's 2025 or 2026 pick in this scenario not giving up any picks. There are already reports they will have to add it to shed Jrue.

[Ron Swanson]

We can all talk ourselves into the 2031 1st being this massively coveted asset considering the predicament we're in, but at the end of the day it's just that, a single unprotected pick 6-years out. Throw in the only salary you'd have to attach it to (Dame, Kuzma, Pat) and I just don't see any realistic way you're getting back some awesome core player.

[Bernman]

My last hope is lining everything up with when Dame's money comes off the books. Liked Trent this year but we should not be adding any money longer than 2 years. Try to find ways to take on bad money for picks now so you have more to play with later.

Otherwise they need to re-tradeable in the next 1 & a half yrs. Short contracts or 20-somethings that they know they're getting a deal on. Like if it's 3/21 for Trent, that's movable, if we want it to be. But 10+ a yr for 3 or more may well not be.

Then I think if we can lure Naz Reid on the MLE for a few yrs, we should be flexible enough to take it. He either becomes a vital piece next to Giannis, or they can deal him in the middle of yr 2.

They can't be doing stupid s**t like signing Harden to a 2 yr/1 PO contract at 25 million per. Then not being able to move him. Or taking on Jrue to compound the Kuz error.

[fansinceforever]

There's just almost no chance Giannis is fine with the Bucks punting on his age 31 and 32 season.

If he stays the Bucks are probably making deals for some depressed asset/ reclamation project type guys this off-season. No doubt something most of us here will hate.

We don't get to clean up the books and keep Giannis.

[Frank Nova]

We just need to deploy the Giannis death lineup next year and try and run teams off the floor. We’ll win some and we’ll lose some and if things break right by seasons end, we can be a 4-5-6 seed dark horse heading into the playoffs spearheaded by MVP Giannis. It’s really not that outlandish where anyone should definitively be able to say that’s a bad holdover plan for a season. Giannis won’t see that as a “wasted prime year”.

Horst should make the call about Peyton Watson, I think he’s a perfect player for what we need.

[Ron Swanson]

I don't know why people think it's a given Trent is back. I'm assuming he's gone unless we fork over the full MLE or he's just feeling charitable and signs the handshake 1+1 deal now with the 4-yr, $50 million extension on the table next year. How do we feel about Ty Jerome on the MLE? Cleveland will be another tax team that likely won't be able to re-sign any of their key bench guys.

Eh I would take him for cheap but full MLE for a guy who has 1 good year and stunk in all but 1 of the IND series scares me. I'd rather spend it somewhere else.

I think he's a classic case of a guy who got written off too early as an older rookie and I don't think what he did this year is unsustainable in a bigger role. Always been a good shooter, 3-to-1 career AST/TO ratio guy. Good size, good floater game. Dude's just an incredibly smart and crafty player that needed a couple years in the NBA to get his feet wet, and we've been harping about not having enough "high IQ" guys on this team for how long now? I think he's combo-guard Joe Ingles and while that's not exactly a #2 type dude on a contender, I'm not of the belief you're gonna find any better players than that with the mid-level exception in a weak FA class.

[engelmartin]

Can’t we trade the ‘32 first soon? Once the season ends?

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

It's funny how polarizing Kuz/Pat for Jrue + a late 1st is. I think it's a no brainer and others think its the dumbest move possible.

Jrue gives you a solid 30mpg next season, easing more load off of Giannis then Kuzma will. Yeah we have to eat an extra 12M? in year 3 vs Kuzma but that's your argument? Jrue will really help out next year and the year after he at worst would be an overpaid 6th man. Who knows what happens in year 3, maybe he retires or maybe we trade him as an expiring. Jrue and KPJ is at least a decent enough backcourt for next year so Giannis isn't completely alone and we'd get a 1st out of it. Not to mention how great of a teammate he is, that's something that is under appreciated especially during a "gap year."

the mini reset we'd all be looking for is...ideally coming off dame, kuzma, and patc for functional players.

if what comes back is jrue holiday and more matching salaries of whatever actually functional basketball players you can find with him then that would be a very solid offseason.

the boston pick coming back with jrue in a kuzma/patc deal makes moving dame that much easier along with what we already have.

a 3way with utah makes all the sense in the whole wide world if theyd be willing to give up their exprings for our pick and the boston pick in a sexton/collins kind of deal

[Istanbullus]

Anybody cull anything interesting from Jim O's Bucks questions? Any predictions on Giannis or projected trade packages? I no longer have the MJS.

[Bernman]

Good news. I was wondering if he'd actually get it done. Was playing thru pain/dysfunction. This gives him more room for improvement next season.

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