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Post#1181 » by Jaydubb » Fri May 23, 2025 8:57 pm

Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

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Post#1182 » by QB_Eagles » Fri May 23, 2025 9:45 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

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But yeah, it's sad that racism is still alive in the NFL in 2024.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1183 » by Cactus Jack » Fri May 23, 2025 9:59 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

Dejean is a good player. But I thought he went in the right range of picks (2nd round). The Eagles got two good players. But team's tend to prioritize trench play over DB's, as they should.

It was rumored the Hawks liked him a lot. But they weren't going to take him at 16, especially when you had guys like Murphy & Verse still on the board.
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Post#1184 » by Jaydubb » Fri May 23, 2025 10:46 pm

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Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

Dejean is a good player. But I thought he went in the right range of picks (2nd round). The Eagles got two good players. But team's tend to prioritize trench play over DB's, as they should.

It was rumored the Hawks liked him a lot. But they weren't going to take him at 16, especially when you had guys like Murphy & Verse still on the board.

That’s true. Trenches should be the priority in the 1st.

But man, he really transformed that defense. He plays everywhere. Quinyon deserved to be picked at 22 but I wouldn’t have hated it if the eagles picked cooper there instead. To get both is crazy. Kinda starting to build our own mini legion of boom in philly.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1185 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 24, 2025 12:58 am

Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

Dejean is a good player. But I thought he went in the right range of picks (2nd round). The Eagles got two good players. But team's tend to prioritize trench play over DB's, as they should.

It was rumored the Hawks liked him a lot. But they weren't going to take him at 16, especially when you had guys like Murphy & Verse still on the board.

That’s true. Trenches should be the priority in the 1st.

But man, he really transformed that defense. He plays everywhere. Quinyon deserved to be picked at 22 but I wouldn’t have hated it if the eagles picked cooper there instead. To get both is crazy. Kinda starting to build our own mini legion of boom in philly.

Safeties/Nickle CB's typically end up going late 1st to somewhere in the 2nd Round.

Brian Branch fell to the middle of the 2nd. This year, Starks went late 1st (Ravens) & Emmanwori was taken 35th overall. That's just how teams value the position nowadays. So, the fact that Dejean was still available in the 2nd is really not all that surprising. But it was a smart move by Howie to grab him.
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Post#1186 » by El Turco » Sat May 24, 2025 12:21 pm

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45238368/2025-nfl-season-most-underrated-players-quarterback-wide-receiver-edge-rusher

Quarterback: Brock Purdy, San Francisco 49ers
Many claimed Purdy wasn't a legit MVP candidate in 2023 because he received too much help from San Francisco's offensive scheme and his talented teammates. Yet in 2024, while many of Purdy's teammates were injured, he still played very well.

One area of outside help is the tremendous yards-after-catch production of the Kyle Shanahan offense. I have a model for YAC over expectation based on the air yards and location of each pass: The 49ers led the NFL in this metric for six straight years from 2018 through 2023, but they dropped to sixth last season. Purdy's overall numbers were strong anyway.

Overall, Purdy performs well in metrics that try to separate a quarterback from his receivers and his blocking. For example, Purdy was seventh in the NFL with a 67.9 QBR for the 2024 season. Kevin Cole's adjusted quarterback efficiency, which attempts to adjust for everything from yards after the catch to dropped passes, had Purdy seventh in value per play (ninth in total value). And Purdy was fourth in Ben Baldwin's adjusted EPA per play (which also has adjustments for pass protection).

Does Purdy's huge contract extension mean he is no longer underrated? On the contrary, some of the criticism of the extension suggests people don't understand how much better Purdy has been compared to the other Shanahan quarterbacks in San Francisco.
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Post#1187 » by LAKESHOW » Sat May 24, 2025 4:20 pm

Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

He reminds me of this Guy we had out of USC years ago, went to the Giants. Athletic Beast!
Problem was, injuries caught up quick and took his speed away quick
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Post#1188 » by QB_Eagles » Sat May 24, 2025 4:59 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

He reminds me of this Guy we had out of USC years ago, went to the Giants. Athletic Beast!
Problem was, injuries caught up quick and took his speed away quick

Fortunately DeJean is only sneaky athletic. He makes plays thru high effort.
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Re: 2025 NFL Off-Season 

Post#1189 » by Cactus Jack » Sat May 24, 2025 5:09 pm

LAKESHOW wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:Cooper dejean is so explosive man, yall favorite teams are wild as hell to allow the eagles to pick him up in the 2nd round. He was getting top 15 pick hype but “he’s a wyte boiii” lollllll

https://youtube.com/shorts/ty-6ho9aTF8?si=lPlU3IngiAQ_aCWZ

He reminds me of this Guy we had out of USC years ago, went to the Giants. Athletic Beast!
Problem was, injuries caught up quick and took his speed away quick

Taylor Mays?
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Post#1190 » by El Turco » Sat May 24, 2025 6:31 pm

Roids caught up to Mays, not injuries.
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Post#1191 » by Jaydubb » Mon May 26, 2025 3:17 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Dejean is a good player. But I thought he went in the right range of picks (2nd round). The Eagles got two good players. But team's tend to prioritize trench play over DB's, as they should.

It was rumored the Hawks liked him a lot. But they weren't going to take him at 16, especially when you had guys like Murphy & Verse still on the board.

That’s true. Trenches should be the priority in the 1st.

But man, he really transformed that defense. He plays everywhere. Quinyon deserved to be picked at 22 but I wouldn’t have hated it if the eagles picked cooper there instead. To get both is crazy. Kinda starting to build our own mini legion of boom in philly.

Safeties/Nickle CB's typically end up going late 1st to somewhere in the 2nd Round.

Brian Branch fell to the middle of the 2nd. This year, Starks went late 1st (Ravens) & Emmanwori was taken 35th overall. That's just how teams value the position nowadays. So, the fact that Dejean was still available in the 2nd is really not all that surprising. But it was a smart move by Howie to grab him.

You’re right to be honest. That being said, nickel backs are starting to be a regular part of every team’s base package nowadays with how much passing is going on. Once cooper dejean actually started to become a regular part of the defense, in week 5, he was in 85% of the team’s defensive snaps after that including games where he and other starters were pulled early. He also played in 93% of snaps in the playoffs.

So yeah, you’re right but I also think the position is trending up. Also, cooper dejean specifically can play pretty much anywhere except the DL. They’ve lined him up at linebacker, outside cornerback, safety, nickel etc. not to mention he’s also a really good punt returner. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if they start drawing up trick plays on offense involving him considering how good he is with the ball in his hands. They did it with Darius slay for some reason and he’s not nearly as explosive, and never was in my opinion.

It’s kinda like how I feel about running backs, I think they shouldn’t be taken till very late first or early 2nd at best, but I gotta admit some of these backs give better value than that.
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Post#1192 » by Jaydubb » Mon May 26, 2025 3:18 pm

El Turco wrote:Roids caught up to Mays, not injuries.

Man I remember watching him at USC. He was a lot of fun to watch
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Post#1193 » by Cactus Jack » Mon May 26, 2025 6:33 pm

Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:That’s true. Trenches should be the priority in the 1st.

But man, he really transformed that defense. He plays everywhere. Quinyon deserved to be picked at 22 but I wouldn’t have hated it if the eagles picked cooper there instead. To get both is crazy. Kinda starting to build our own mini legion of boom in philly.

Safeties/Nickle CB's typically end up going late 1st to somewhere in the 2nd Round.

Brian Branch fell to the middle of the 2nd. This year, Starks went late 1st (Ravens) & Emmanwori was taken 35th overall. That's just how teams value the position nowadays. So, the fact that Dejean was still available in the 2nd is really not all that surprising. But it was a smart move by Howie to grab him.

You’re right to be honest. That being said, nickel backs are starting to be a regular part of every team’s base package nowadays with how much passing is going on. Once cooper dejean actually started to become a regular part of the defense, in week 5, he was in 85% of the team’s defensive snaps after that including games where he and other starters were pulled early. He also played in 93% of snaps in the playoffs.

So yeah, you’re right but I also think the position is trending up. Also, cooper dejean specifically can play pretty much anywhere except the DL. They’ve lined him up at linebacker, outside cornerback, safety, nickel etc. not to mention he’s also a really good punt returner. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if they start drawing up trick plays on offense involving him considering how good he is with the ball in his hands. They did it with Darius slay for some reason and he’s not nearly as explosive, and never was in my opinion.

It’s kinda like how I feel about running backs, I think they shouldn’t be taken till very late first or early 2nd at best, but I gotta admit some of these backs give better value than that.

You're right, having a good Nickle is important. Devon Witherspoon primarily has been a Nickle. Although he does play on the outside as well.

Nick Emmanwori was the most athletic Safety prospect to ever test (Combine) & he still went in the 2nd Round.
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Post#1194 » by Jaydubb » Mon May 26, 2025 7:49 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:
Jaydubb wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:Safeties/Nickle CB's typically end up going late 1st to somewhere in the 2nd Round.

Brian Branch fell to the middle of the 2nd. This year, Starks went late 1st (Ravens) & Emmanwori was taken 35th overall. That's just how teams value the position nowadays. So, the fact that Dejean was still available in the 2nd is really not all that surprising. But it was a smart move by Howie to grab him.

You’re right to be honest. That being said, nickel backs are starting to be a regular part of every team’s base package nowadays with how much passing is going on. Once cooper dejean actually started to become a regular part of the defense, in week 5, he was in 85% of the team’s defensive snaps after that including games where he and other starters were pulled early. He also played in 93% of snaps in the playoffs.

So yeah, you’re right but I also think the position is trending up. Also, cooper dejean specifically can play pretty much anywhere except the DL. They’ve lined him up at linebacker, outside cornerback, safety, nickel etc. not to mention he’s also a really good punt returner. Hell, I wouldn’t be surprised if they start drawing up trick plays on offense involving him considering how good he is with the ball in his hands. They did it with Darius slay for some reason and he’s not nearly as explosive, and never was in my opinion.

It’s kinda like how I feel about running backs, I think they shouldn’t be taken till very late first or early 2nd at best, but I gotta admit some of these backs give better value than that.

You're right, having a good Nickle is important. Devon Witherspoon primarily has been a Nickle. Although he does play on the outside as well.

Nick Emmanwori was the most athletic Safety prospect to ever test (Combine) & he still went in the 2nd Round.

That’s right. Witherspoon is a beast, I remember he was like top 3 in defensive ROY voting. I think Jalen Carter was 2nd
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Post#1195 » by Cactus Jack » Tue May 27, 2025 12:30 am

Jaydubb wrote:That’s right. Witherspoon is a beast, I remember he was like top 3 in defensive ROY voting. I think Jalen Carter was 2nd

Witherspoon is a really good corner. But he's a great slot CB. He's solid in coverage but his tackling & mindset is what separates him from other corners. He gives 100% effort on every play. The guy is a dawg in the truest sense. He's a tone-setter. It's why I don't have an issue with them passing on Carter.


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Post#1196 » by El Turco » Thu May 29, 2025 8:04 pm

Carter is miles ahead of Witherspoon in terms of impact, that's a whiff if you are picking between those two.
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Post#1197 » by Cactus Jack » Thu May 29, 2025 9:10 pm

El Turco wrote:Carter is miles ahead of Witherspoon in terms of impact, that's a whiff if you are picking between those two.

Carter is impactful. But based on all the red flags leading up to the draft, I can't fault teams for passing on him. Because they we're legit. His interviews we're so bad that you had some teams who took him off their boards completely.

It has worked out for the Eagles. But it just as easily could have turned into a Reuben Foster situation for them.

Spoon is also a damn good player himself. Who doesn't have any off the field things in his past or character issues. So again, I can't fault the team for making that decision. Because he's been one of the better players to come out of that draft.
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Post#1198 » by El Turco » Thu May 29, 2025 9:30 pm

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El Turco wrote:Carter is miles ahead of Witherspoon in terms of impact, that's a whiff if you are picking between those two.

Carter is impactful. But based on all the red flags leading up to the draft, I can't fault teams for passing on him. Because they we're legit. His interviews we're so bad that you had some teams who took him off their boards completely.

It has worked out for the Eagles. But it just as easily could have turned into a Reuben Foster situation for them.

Spoon is also a damn good player himself. Who doesn't have any off the field things in his past or character issues. So again, I can't fault the team for making that decision. Because he's been one of the better players to come out of that draft.


Did he have anything outside of the accident? Dont remember anyone in Georgia complaining about him beforehand.
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Post#1199 » by Cactus Jack » Thu May 29, 2025 9:46 pm

El Turco wrote:
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El Turco wrote:Carter is miles ahead of Witherspoon in terms of impact, that's a whiff if you are picking between those two.

Carter is impactful. But based on all the red flags leading up to the draft, I can't fault teams for passing on him. Because they we're legit. His interviews we're so bad that you had some teams who took him off their boards completely.

It has worked out for the Eagles. But it just as easily could have turned into a Reuben Foster situation for them.

Spoon is also a damn good player himself. Who doesn't have any off the field things in his past or character issues. So again, I can't fault the team for making that decision. Because he's been one of the better players to come out of that draft.


Did he have anything outside of the accident? Dont remember anyone in Georgia complaining about him beforehand.

Yeah, he had a reputation in college for speeding/racing. It's also not a secret that he had ties to gangs.
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Post#1200 » by El Turco » Thu May 29, 2025 9:55 pm

Wow a college student speeding, what a scum. Sounds like a Laremy Tunsil situation.
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