ImageImage

2025 Draft Thread

Moderators: paulpressey25, MickeyDavis

fansinceforever
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,217
And1: 2,649
Joined: Oct 26, 2010
   

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#341 » by fansinceforever » Fri May 23, 2025 5:27 pm

Bernman wrote:
fansinceforever wrote:Probably because he's 6 inches shorter and shot it worse from the field and from 3. He's a better free throw shooter but that doesnt make him a better scorer. And their birthdays are like 2 months apart.

There's nothing Bailey does poorly that can't be improved.


Fears is a pg. All teams need them. And they have higher value than most positions, because of their ability to create, for themselves and others. He does this much better than Bailey as a basketball player.

Positionally, Fears has solid size. He's a quarter inch taller than Westbrook measured. He's viewed as solid-sized pg. I anticipated this response, but it's a bad reason. 56.2 ts% for Fears, 53.6 for Bailey. And Fears actually had the better lack of teammates excuse. No Dylan Harper there.


I don't even understand what the debate is here. Fears is a good prospect with good size for his position. He did shoot it worse from the field and from 3 than Bailey. Most, if not all, consider Bailey to be a better shooter/scorer even if his shot selection is poor.

I would gamble on him. Bailey and Harper's team success is clearly not an issue for most teams in the 2-5 range.
User avatar
Frank Nova
Head Coach
Posts: 7,367
And1: 3,552
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Location: Shootin’ dice with Larry Bird in Barcelona
       

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#342 » by Frank Nova » Fri May 23, 2025 8:12 pm

Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?
RIP Kobe Forever. GOAT 8-24. Long Live Giannis
User avatar
emunney
RealGM
Posts: 62,922
And1: 41,311
Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Location: where takes go to be pampered

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#343 » by emunney » Fri May 23, 2025 8:27 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?


Both those guys really should be gone. Nembhard's a better player than his brother was, but obviously the size gives him a different outlook. I'd be absolutely thrilled to get him at 47 at any rate.

Have already mentioned Brice and Amari Williams, but check out Otega Oweh if you haven't. Impressive mix of tools, motor, skills for a potential 2nd rounder.
Here are more legal notices regarding the Posts
User avatar
Matches Malone
RealGM
Posts: 36,438
And1: 26,675
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
     

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#344 » by Matches Malone » Fri May 23, 2025 9:26 pm

Read on Twitter
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
User avatar
Frank Nova
Head Coach
Posts: 7,367
And1: 3,552
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Location: Shootin’ dice with Larry Bird in Barcelona
       

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#345 » by Frank Nova » Fri May 23, 2025 10:17 pm

emunney wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?


Both those guys really should be gone. Nembhard's a better player than his brother was, but obviously the size gives him a different outlook. I'd be absolutely thrilled to get him at 47 at any rate.

Have already mentioned Brice and Amari Williams, but check out Otega Oweh if you haven't. Impressive mix of tools, motor, skills for a potential 2nd rounder.


Niederhauser is all over the place in mocks from what I’m seeing, anywhere from 30s to out of the top 50. He’d be my #1 guy if available so far at least. I like Oweh, is he staying in? I’ll check out the Williams’
RIP Kobe Forever. GOAT 8-24. Long Live Giannis
bucksfansince88
Analyst
Posts: 3,737
And1: 2,216
Joined: Sep 22, 2009
   

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#346 » by bucksfansince88 » Fri May 23, 2025 11:09 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
Read on Twitter


he can hoop

https://youtu.be/RULHVMHCWCw?si=sWtHblhodvapfnwm
JonHeist
Pro Prospect
Posts: 959
And1: 1,156
Joined: Nov 18, 2020

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#347 » by JonHeist » Fri May 23, 2025 11:31 pm

haven't seen anyone I like that should be there at 47 yet

maybe that giant Australian kid could be useful in some matchups, especially if brook's gone
User avatar
Frank Nova
Head Coach
Posts: 7,367
And1: 3,552
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Location: Shootin’ dice with Larry Bird in Barcelona
       

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#348 » by Frank Nova » Sat May 24, 2025 3:32 am

bucksfansince88 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Read on Twitter


he can hoop

https://youtu.be/RULHVMHCWCw?si=sWtHblhodvapfnwm


Turns 24 this summer. Not really close to ideal but yeah I agree, he can hoop.
RIP Kobe Forever. GOAT 8-24. Long Live Giannis
User avatar
Matches Malone
RealGM
Posts: 36,438
And1: 26,675
Joined: Nov 23, 2005
     

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#349 » by Matches Malone » Sat May 24, 2025 5:00 pm

Read on Twitter
Gery Woelfel wrote:Got a time big boy?
User avatar
ReasonablySober
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 108,052
And1: 42,308
Joined: Dec 02, 2001
Location: Cheap dinner. Watch basketball. Bone down.
Contact:

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#350 » by ReasonablySober » Sat May 24, 2025 5:34 pm

Coward is staying in the draft.
User avatar
Ron Swanson
RealGM
Posts: 25,726
And1: 29,558
Joined: May 15, 2013

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#351 » by Ron Swanson » Sat May 24, 2025 5:40 pm

Sears would be fun. At 47 why not?
User avatar
Bernman
RealGM
Posts: 27,901
And1: 8,404
Joined: Aug 05, 2004
     

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#352 » by Bernman » Sat May 24, 2025 5:42 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Coward is staying in the draft.


I think it's quite brave, actually. They're taking the step up to a men's game.
User avatar
RiotPunch
RealGM
Posts: 27,741
And1: 18,102
Joined: Jul 05, 2009
Location: LA
     

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#353 » by RiotPunch » Sat May 24, 2025 6:17 pm

Bernman wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Coward is staying in the draft.


I think it's quite brave, actually. They're taking the step up to a men's game.

Coward and Fears would be a scared duo.
#FreeChuckDiesel
Bucksmaniac wrote:I'm sorry, but I'm starting to sour on Giannis
User avatar
SupremeHustle
RealGM
Posts: 28,424
And1: 30,982
Joined: Feb 11, 2005
Location: Cloud 9
 

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#354 » by SupremeHustle » Sat May 24, 2025 6:19 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Coward is staying in the draft.


Poor guy will never hear the end of it if he backs away from a fight.
jschligs wrote:Am I the only one who doesn't know who the **** SupremeHustle is?
User avatar
M-C-G
RealGM
Posts: 23,525
And1: 9,849
Joined: Jan 13, 2013
     

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#355 » by M-C-G » Sat May 24, 2025 7:53 pm

Frank Nova wrote:Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?


I’m dialed into a PF/C that is really dynamic defensively. So far Tuggler and Trevon Brazille are of interest and should be available

Brazile has an intriguing combination of size, bounce and floor spacing ability.

Has good length and great bounce, allowing him to play way above the rim.

Is a high level 3pt shooter who projects well to the NBA level with his floor spacing ability.

Isn’t the most creative with the ball in his hands and plays more of a floor-spacing big man game, not a wing


Tugler is a big, burly, strong power forward who impacts both ends of the floor. He’s a junkyard dog type of player who does all the dirty work and has a big impact on the game, even if he’s not scoring the ball.

He’s a very active defender who can guard in space, hold his own in the post and protect the rim. He’s a bit undersized in terms of height but has a lot of strength and a massive 7-4 wingspan. He also gets off the floor well and can shut down the rim.

His activity shows up on offense with his high work rate, setting screens, diving to the rim and crashing the offensive glass. He has good touch around the rim and flashes some face-up ability.

Tugler runs the floor really well and is an overall mobile, active and impactful player who should start getting more draft attention
JRoy
RealGM
Posts: 16,703
And1: 14,067
Joined: Feb 27, 2019
 

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#356 » by JRoy » Sat May 24, 2025 7:56 pm

RiotPunch wrote:
Bernman wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Coward is staying in the draft.


I think it's quite brave, actually. They're taking the step up to a men's game.

Coward and Fears would be a scared duo.

That’s pretty funny.
Edrees wrote:
JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all


I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
User avatar
emunney
RealGM
Posts: 62,922
And1: 41,311
Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Location: where takes go to be pampered

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#357 » by emunney » Sat May 24, 2025 10:35 pm

M-C-G wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?


I’m dialed into a PF/C that is really dynamic defensively. So far Tuggler and Trevon Brazille are of interest and should be available

Brazile has an intriguing combination of size, bounce and floor spacing ability.

Has good length and great bounce, allowing him to play way above the rim.

Is a high level 3pt shooter who projects well to the NBA level with his floor spacing ability.

Isn’t the most creative with the ball in his hands and plays more of a floor-spacing big man game, not a wing


Tugler is a big, burly, strong power forward who impacts both ends of the floor. He’s a junkyard dog type of player who does all the dirty work and has a big impact on the game, even if he’s not scoring the ball.

He’s a very active defender who can guard in space, hold his own in the post and protect the rim. He’s a bit undersized in terms of height but has a lot of strength and a massive 7-4 wingspan. He also gets off the floor well and can shut down the rim.

His activity shows up on offense with his high work rate, setting screens, diving to the rim and crashing the offensive glass. He has good touch around the rim and flashes some face-up ability.

Tugler runs the floor really well and is an overall mobile, active and impactful player who should start getting more draft attention


Tugler didn't enter the draft. I don't think Brazile did either, for that matter.
Here are more legal notices regarding the Posts
User avatar
tedbrogen
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,213
And1: 3,739
Joined: Jun 20, 2008

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#358 » by tedbrogen » Sat May 24, 2025 11:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:Coward is staying in the draft.


I’m guessing not only did he get a first round guarantee but he got a lottery guarantee from some team.
BigO
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,219
And1: 4,760
Joined: Jul 07, 2014
Location: Old Folks Home
   

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#359 » by BigO » Sun May 25, 2025 12:07 am

Frank Nova wrote:
bucksfansince88 wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:
Read on Twitter


he can hoop

https://youtu.be/RULHVMHCWCw?si=sWtHblhodvapfnwm


Turns 24 this summer. Not really close to ideal but yeah I agree, he can hoop.


Strange stats. Good 3 point shooter his last season, but horrible free throw shooter his entire career. Red flag to me.
BigO
Assistant Coach
Posts: 4,219
And1: 4,760
Joined: Jul 07, 2014
Location: Old Folks Home
   

Re: 2025 Draft Thread 

Post#360 » by BigO » Sun May 25, 2025 12:20 am

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

Return to Milwaukee Bucks