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What about the Center Spot?

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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#101 » by drsd » Fri May 23, 2025 6:36 am

RichCollab wrote:I don’t think center is our main concern and want focus and resources used on a starting PG. After that, sure let’s go get a center.


I agree that Orlando is unlikely to make any roster canges at the Five. As to a PG, don't be suprised when Orlando goes for another combo-guard. And creates an offense that rotates Suggs and Mr. Wonderful as on-ball options - in game.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#102 » by OrlandoMagic » Fri May 23, 2025 5:19 pm

I’m actually all for trading every single one of our centers. And sticking with an average center at best.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#103 » by cedric76 » Fri May 23, 2025 7:21 pm

WCJ is so underrated on this board
Suggs/Sexton/Joseph
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#104 » by Skybox » Fri May 23, 2025 11:40 pm

cedric76 wrote:WCJ is so underrated on this board


He'd be a monster at 4 on a team without Paolo...especially on a team with a scrawny but formidable C like Wemby

I'd like him a lot as the primary backup at 4 and 5 with a legit 7' rim protector and rebounder.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#105 » by GGforever » Sat May 24, 2025 12:14 am

cedric76 wrote:WCJ is so underrated on this board


Sorry but Wendell is not good. He is an undersized center who plays extremely soft anywhere near the rim offensively. Too short to be a rim protector, while being an average rebounder at best.
He does do one thing at a near elite level for a center, which is being able to move laterally on the perimeter to help stay in front of faster players. Other than that I think he is a well below average starting center and should be referred to as Charmin for his frustratingly soft playing style.
We will be a much better team once he is replaced as the starter. It’s not a coincidence our longest winning streaks the last 2 seasons were both when he was injured.
Walker Kessler is my dream.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#106 » by ogmagicfan » Sat May 24, 2025 1:06 am

If we get a center who cant shoot, a Mitchell Robinson esque player is who I'd fold for

Im cool with just drafting a center as a 2nd/3rd stringer, moving on from either Goga and/or Moe. WCJ closed the season really well on both ends
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#107 » by T-Cat » Wed May 28, 2025 10:33 am

ogmagicfan wrote:If we get a center who cant shoot, a Mitchell Robinson esque player is who I'd fold for

Im cool with just drafting a center as a 2nd/3rd stringer, moving on from either Goga and/or Moe. WCJ closed the season really well on both ends


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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#108 » by BadMofoPimp » Wed May 28, 2025 5:24 pm

I truly don't think the Magic are making any Center moves this offseason outside of shipping out only one of WCJ, Goga, Moe or Slim as the team doesn't need 4 centers.

There are way more glaring concerns with this roster and Center is not one of them. I think some fans just want a higher profile center that produces more stats.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#109 » by cedric76 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:53 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:I truly don't think the Magic are making any Center moves this offseason outside of shipping out only one of WCJ, Goga, Moe or Slim as the team doesn't need 4 centers.

There are way more glaring concerns with this roster and Center is not one of them. I think some fans just want a higher profile center that produces more stats.



I think we ll trade goga for a floor spacer (Royce O'Neil) and draft a C
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#110 » by anothermagicfan » Thu May 29, 2025 12:41 am

GGforever wrote:
cedric76 wrote:WCJ is so underrated on this board


Sorry but Wendell is not good. He is an undersized center who plays extremely soft anywhere near the rim offensively. Too short to be a rim protector, while being an average rebounder at best.
He does do one thing at a near elite level for a center, which is being able to move laterally on the perimeter to help stay in front of faster players. Other than that I think he is a well below average starting center and should be referred to as Charmin for his frustratingly soft playing style.
We will be a much better team once he is replaced as the starter. It’s not a coincidence our longest winning streaks the last 2 seasons were both when he was injured.
Walker Kessler is my dream.



Agreed 100%. I'd be ok with Kessler but my dream is Ware. Once he packs on some muscle I think he'd be a great fit as long as his 3 is there
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#111 » by Skybox » Thu May 29, 2025 1:23 am

anothermagicfan wrote:
GGforever wrote:
cedric76 wrote:WCJ is so underrated on this board


Sorry but Wendell is not good. He is an undersized center who plays extremely soft anywhere near the rim offensively. Too short to be a rim protector, while being an average rebounder at best.
He does do one thing at a near elite level for a center, which is being able to move laterally on the perimeter to help stay in front of faster players. Other than that I think he is a well below average starting center and should be referred to as Charmin for his frustratingly soft playing style.
We will be a much better team once he is replaced as the starter. It’s not a coincidence our longest winning streaks the last 2 seasons were both when he was injured.
Walker Kessler is my dream.



Agreed 100%. I'd be ok with Kessler but my dream is Ware. Once he packs on some muscle I think he'd be a great fit as long as his 3 is there


I saw a mock with UTA grabbing Maluach…that would certainly signal Kessler being available. I could see Ainge kicking that can down the road another year or two rather than give Kessler a big extension- he IS eligible this summer. I’d love to get Kessler (& Sexton).
Same with NOLA & Missi
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#112 » by pepe1991 » Thu May 29, 2025 6:15 am

Skybox wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:
GGforever wrote:
Sorry but Wendell is not good. He is an undersized center who plays extremely soft anywhere near the rim offensively. Too short to be a rim protector, while being an average rebounder at best.
He does do one thing at a near elite level for a center, which is being able to move laterally on the perimeter to help stay in front of faster players. Other than that I think he is a well below average starting center and should be referred to as Charmin for his frustratingly soft playing style.
We will be a much better team once he is replaced as the starter. It’s not a coincidence our longest winning streaks the last 2 seasons were both when he was injured.
Walker Kessler is my dream.



Agreed 100%. I'd be ok with Kessler but my dream is Ware. Once he packs on some muscle I think he'd be a great fit as long as his 3 is there


I saw a mock with UTA grabbing Maluach…that would certainly signal Kessler being available. I could see Ainge kicking that can down the road another year or two rather than give Kessler a big extension- he IS eligible this summer. I’d love to get Kessler (& Sexton).
Same with NOLA & Missi
BRK & Claxton


Missi isn't even good. Watch his games, not just highlights, guy is lost on both ends about 97% of time when he has to do more than block shot from weak side. Over time he lost PT to another rookie (Matkovic) who was less lost and could shoot.

Kessler is good player but knowing Ainge, he will ask 500 first round picks for him. And paying him going forward would be hard. Especially because Sexton is UFA as well.

Basically, you have to pay premier price for them, and quadruple their salary going forward just to keep them.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#113 » by Skybox » Thu May 29, 2025 10:33 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Skybox wrote:
anothermagicfan wrote:

Agreed 100%. I'd be ok with Kessler but my dream is Ware. Once he packs on some muscle I think he'd be a great fit as long as his 3 is there


I saw a mock with UTA grabbing Maluach…that would certainly signal Kessler being available. I could see Ainge kicking that can down the road another year or two rather than give Kessler a big extension- he IS eligible this summer. I’d love to get Kessler (& Sexton).
Same with NOLA & Missi
BRK & Claxton


Missi isn't even good. Watch his games, not just highlights, guy is lost on both ends about 97% of time when he has to do more than block shot from weak side. Over time he lost PT to another rookie (Matkovic) who was less lost and could shoot.

Kessler is good player but knowing Ainge, he will ask 500 first round picks for him. And paying him going forward would be hard. Especially because Sexton is UFA as well.

Basically, you have to pay premier price for them, and quadruple their salary going forward just to keep them.


I’d happily quadruple Kessler’s <5m salary. Sexton will be lucky to get a small raise to $20m…depending on what salary ORL can unload, those are two big upgrades in the starting lineup.

I’d give Missi a long look. He was a rookie and, as we have all learned on the ORL boards, rookies take 5 years to contribute :crazy: All kidding aside, I like 20yo Missi in Mose’s hands on a very cheap rookie deal (less than CoJo) upside better than any of our bloated C rotation.
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Re: What about the Center Spot? 

Post#114 » by Skybox » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:01 pm

If we upgrade the starting C spot and restructure Moe, we really should trade Goga...he's a good player, but we're way overpaying the C rotation. Part of that is because we can't count on WCJ to be available. He has flaws, but that's his biggest...he has made it necessary to overpay the bench C rotation because we just can't count on him...and WCJ just isn't that good to work around him like that, to the detriment of our cap situation. It's even worse when you factor in the looming extension that takes WCJ from "way underrated best deal in the NBA" player to "Man, if he could just stay on the court and hit the 3's he's supposedly capable of - he would be a positive value".

There's all kinds of possibilities...I'd love Kessler, for example, or Jakob Poeltl. I like Moe at $8m x 3 off the bench. The third C on any good team is filler. Ideally, a guy that can eat up some minutes and just hold it together without letting the other team go on a run. Isaac, even slimmed down, is fine for this - if he wasn't so limited, minutes-wise. Sure, he can't match up with Embiid or Jokic for 25 minutes, but who can? and that's not the role anyway. After watching Caruso make Jokic work - I like my chances with long, manic Isaac containing a guy like Jokic than WCJ or Goga - but that's not really the point anyway.

I'd pick up a min salary 7' and hope they can contribute...I'd really be willing to go with Bamba on a vet min. WAY more upside than a Tristan Thompson, Robin Lopez, etc guy because he really CAN shoot 3's. All kinds of flaws, but 3rd string C in 2025 is a spot for compromises. The way people dissect trade targets here is just unrealistic...depending on other trades and what it leaves us with, pick-wise, I think Raynaud could be our starter before too long, but certainly would be a solid bench player from day 1.

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