Thibs needs to go

nedleeds · Post #1521 » by **nedleeds** » Sat May 24, 2025 2:21 pm

TKKnicks1 wrote:You got coaches that have actually delivered a championship getting fired. How the hell is this guy still here?!?

Cmon guys. Been saying it for 3 years.

This coach is awful. Roster is over paid, shallow and mid. But Leon and Sam Rose are stacking Dolans coin.

Iron Mantis · Post #1522 » by **Iron Mantis** » Sat May 24, 2025 2:27 pm

When the Knicks lose because of poor use of timeouts, bad challenges, no adjustments, poor offensive scheme, bizarre defensive strategies, counterintuitive substitutions, not using the bench, it's all the players' fault and Leon put together a "bad roster"...

But, when, despite those things which are actually out of the players' hands.... the Knicks players still go out there and make extremely tough shots, hit big-time clutch shots, make amazing defensive plays, dive on the floor and make great hustle-plays, grind their way to the ECF, it's not because the Knicks have great players....no ....the roster is awful .. .....it's all because of because of Thibs' "great coaching" that helped this "terrible roster" to "overachieve'.

Well...Before the season began...many media outlets were saying what most of us were saying: the Knicks had a roster to contend. Everyone recognized The talent is clearly there.

But Not one of them were saying Thibs gives the Knicks any sort of advantage.... instead, during the season, he was coming under scrutiny from media, Knicks players, ex-players, etc.

Don't die on Thibs hill. He did a respectable job here. But It's time for him to go.

Kidknick! · Post #1523 » by **Kidknick!** » Sat May 24, 2025 2:32 pm

Jose7 wrote:

Read on Twitter
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This guy Thibs is insane

These are Fizdale levels of delusional quotes.

He says that statement with a straight face after inserting a clearly USELESS Hart into important minutes over Towns, who should have been on the floor with Mitch. That's complete surrender and throwing up the white flag...

Reprehensible coaching. A losers mentality seems to permeate within Thibs defenders.

I get that the Knicks have been bad for long, but accepting and continuing to be Gaslit by this coach just because "We got better" should NEVER "Be enough". Where in his coaching recently has anyone said "Wow, Thibs did the right thing here." Other than he plays his starters and depends on ISO heroics? Look closely at the wins man... There's your answer.

spree8 · Post #1524 » by **spree8** » Sat May 24, 2025 3:05 pm

Kampuchea wrote:
djsunyc wrote:thibs is being scapegoated here. i think thibs has the team overachieving. trying to overcome having awful defenders at the 1 and 5 and a garbage bench is a tough feat. getting to the ecf with that is an achievement. weaknesses get exposed in the playoffs. brunson is basically iverson and kat is soft. hart cant shoot and there are no ball handling playmakers on the roster. and yall are in the ecf!

This is correct, it’s roster construction not the coach. There’s no coach I would hire unless Spo comes available.

Bro why you love Thibs so much lol

KnixinSix · Post #1525 » by **KnixinSix** » Sat May 24, 2025 3:08 pm

You cant utilize flawed stars in the same way every series. KAT is a tremendously gifted offensive guy....however vs a team like Pacers if you dont adjust how you use him especially defensively AND you play a minus defender in Brunson along side him it proves you are not an elite coach at adapting your system to its players.

If a championship is truly the front office motivation.

Status quo this offseason will not work.

Its either bring in a different more modern NBA coach for a KAT type squad or if you keep Thibs you need to 100% trade KAT. Thibs is still too much a force in a square peg in a round hole coach that expects players to adapt to his system rather than adapt the system fully to its players.

KAT has better value to a team that wants to outscore the other team and play true 5 out.

nedleeds · Post #1526 » by **nedleeds** » Sat May 24, 2025 3:46 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:When the Knicks lose because of poor use of timeouts, bad challenges, no adjustments, poor offensive scheme, bizarre defensive strategies, counterintuitive substitutions, not using the bench, it's all the players' fault and Leon put together a "bad roster"...

But, when, despite those things which are actually out of the players' hands.... the Knicks players still go out there and make extremely tough shots, hit big-time clutch shots, make amazing defensive plays, dive on the floor and make great hustle-plays, grind their way to the ECF, it's not because the Knicks have great players....no ....the roster is awful .. .....it's all because of because of Thibs' "great coaching" that helped this "terrible roster" to "overachieve'.

Well...Before the season began...many media outlets were saying what most of us were saying: the Knicks had a roster to contend. Everyone recognized The talent is clearly there.

But Not one of them were saying Thibs gives the Knicks any sort of advantage.... instead, during the season, he was coming under scrutiny from media, Knicks players, ex-players, etc.

Don't die on Thibs hill. He did a respectable job here. But It's time for him to go.

You're all wrong. The roster sucks **** also. It's just the 2014 Bobcats with some polish in an historically awful East where Cleveland was the top seed.

Raptors, 76ers, Heat all tanking or crippled. Tatum pops his Achilles or we certainly give up a 7 point lead between the bum defenders and a head coach with the creativity of Scott Brooks with a head injury.

Jalen 'rich man's Trey burke' starring as 2014 kemba walker

Karl 'parking cone' towns as AL Jefferson

Mikal 'Lottery Team Nemesis' bridges as Gerald Henderson

Josh 'can't hit water with an oar' hart as MKG

Watch on YouTube

BrOnXKing1 · Post #1527 » by **BrOnXKing1** » Sat May 24, 2025 4:31 pm

Jose7 wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=46

This guy Thibs is insane

Insane comment by Thibs, its the second unit guys coming and having a defensive presence that has those units successful. In particular, Mitch really changes the game defensively. He has to start game 3

Woodsanity · Post #1528 » by **Woodsanity** » Sat May 24, 2025 5:44 pm

Thibs was a good coach for 2010. He is behind the times. Basically a fossil now and has not adjusted.

ctorres · Post #1529 » by **ctorres** » Sat May 24, 2025 6:39 pm

nedleeds wrote:
TKKnicks1 wrote:You got coaches that have actually delivered a championship getting fired. How the hell is this guy still here?!?

Cmon guys. Been saying it for 3 years.

This coach is awful. Roster is over paid, shallow and mid. But Leon and Sam Rose are stacking Dolans coin.

You know who else is with CAA?

https://www.caa.com/caaspeakers/michael-malone

knicks94 · Post #1530 » by **knicks94** » Sat May 24, 2025 10:31 pm

spree8 wrote:
Kampuchea wrote:
djsunyc wrote:thibs is being scapegoated here. i think thibs has the team overachieving. trying to overcome having awful defenders at the 1 and 5 and a garbage bench is a tough feat. getting to the ecf with that is an achievement. weaknesses get exposed in the playoffs. brunson is basically iverson and kat is soft. hart cant shoot and there are no ball handling playmakers on the roster. and yall are in the ecf!

This is correct, it’s roster construction not the coach. There’s no coach I would hire unless Spo comes available.

Bro why you love Thibs so much lol

Players and coaches have been known to have burner accounts.

The KnicksFix · Post #1531 » by **The KnicksFix** » Sun May 25, 2025 12:41 am

If we don’t fire Thibs, realistically, what’s the point of watching again next year?

The KnicksFix · Post #1532 » by **The KnicksFix** » Sun May 25, 2025 12:44 am

Kampuchea wrote:Not on the coach, I think it’s the players just aren’t good enough. KAT defensively is just too bad. And we need to upgrade Payne. I think we find a Payne replacement and as a start and keep KAT unless a Giannis comes available.

You could add Giannis and a bench, if Thibs is still at the helm, IT WONT MATTER, IT WILL BE THE SAME THING AGAIN NEXT YEAR

NiceLikeChrist · Post #1533 » by **NiceLikeChrist** » Sun May 25, 2025 1:04 am

Love seeing all the thibs hate but people who want to replace him with Mike Malone need to pack it up. He stinks

8516knicks · Post #1534 » by **8516knicks** » Sun May 25, 2025 1:22 am

Minnesota stepping up. If Thibs doesn't win Game 3 he's the worst coach in the semi-finals.

8516knicks · Post #1535 » by **8516knicks** » Sun May 25, 2025 1:23 am

ctorres wrote:
nedleeds wrote:
TKKnicks1 wrote:You got coaches that have actually delivered a championship getting fired. How the hell is this guy still here?!?

Cmon guys. Been saying it for 3 years.

This coach is awful. Roster is over paid, shallow and mid. But Leon and Sam Rose are stacking Dolans coin.

You know who else is with CAA? BOOKER!!!

https://www.caa.com/caaspeakers/michael-malone

TheGreenArrow · Post #1536 » by **TheGreenArrow** » Sun May 25, 2025 1:24 am

Read on Twitter

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Kidknick! · Post #1537 » by **Kidknick!** » Sun May 25, 2025 1:51 am

You have to start Deuce. Save Mitch.

Other than being a little taller and a better rebounder, what exactly is Hart better than Deuce at? Deuce is a better shooter and defender. And is not funneling in defenders to scorers like Hart is doing.

And that's no slander to Hart, he's being used improperly just like many others on this team by its WOEFULLY INEPT RoboCoach.

Clyde_Style · Post #1538 » by **Clyde_Style** » Sun May 25, 2025 4:02 am

Stannis · Post #1539 » by **Stannis** » Sun May 25, 2025 4:42 am

Who do the Knicks even hire if they fire Thibs?

Garbagelo · Post #1540 » by **Garbagelo** » Sun May 25, 2025 5:14 am

Stannis wrote:Who do the Knicks even hire if they fire Thibs?

usually teams hire someone who is the complete opposite of the coach they just fired