2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[sco]

My board right now

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina

12 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona
13 F-Noa Essengue-Germany

14 C-Maxime Raynaud-Stanford

F-Asa Newell-Georgia
C-Khaman Maluach-Duke

W-Kon Kneuppel-Duke
F-Noah Penda-France

C-Thomas Sorber-Georgetown
W-Nique Clifford-Colorado St

C-Joan Beringer-Slovenia
F-Cedric Coward-Washington St
F-Liam McNeeley-Uconn
F-Hugo Gonzalez-Spain
G-Nolan Traore-France
W-Will Riley-Illinois

G-Jase Richardson-Michigan St
G-Egor Demin-BYU

I forgot about Yaxel..

[Guru]

My board right now

1 F-Cooper Flagg-Duke

2 G-Dylan Harper-Rutgers

3 G-VJ Edgecombe-Baylor

4 W-Ace Bailey-Rutgers

5 C-Derik Queen-Maryland

6 G-Tre Johnson-Texas
7 G-Jeremiah Fears-Oklahoma

8 PG-Kasparas Jakuciois-Illinois

9 F-Rasheer Fleming-St Joseph's
10 F-Yaxel Landeborg-UAB
11 F-Collin Murray-Boyles-S Carolina

12 F-Carter Bryant-Arizona
13 F-Noa Essengue-Germany

14 C-Maxime Raynaud-Stanford

F-Asa Newell-Georgia
C-Khaman Maluach-Duke

W-Kon Kneuppel-Duke
F-Noah Penda-France

C-Thomas Sorber-Georgetown
W-Nique Clifford-Colorado St

C-Joan Beringer-Slovenia
F-Cedric Coward-Washington St
F-Liam McNeeley-Uconn
F-Hugo Gonzalez-Spain
G-Nolan Traore-France
W-Will Riley-Illinois

G-Jase Richardson-Michigan St
G-Egor Demin-BYU

I forgot about Yaxel..

He's still on the fence. I love that dude. Rebounds, plays D

[nomorezorro]

I have no idea what Kon gives this team? Trade up for a rotational bench guy who can shoot?

do you think it's possible that someone thinks a consensus top 8 prospect in this draft projects as better than a rotational bench guy

[WindyCityBorn]

I have no idea what Kon gives this team? Trade up for a rotational bench guy who can shoot?

do you think it's possible that someone thinks a consensus top 8 prospect in this draft projects as better than a rotational bench guy

Make a guy like that or more than that. I guess the SG Fido the Lakers? He’s just another Heurter.

[Muzbar]

I have no idea what Kon gives this team? Trade up for a rotational bench guy who can shoot?

do you think it's possible that someone thinks a consensus top 8 prospect in this draft projects as better than a rotational bench guy

No. You're not allowed to like a player someone else doesn't.

Personally, I wouldn't trade up for Kon, but if he were available at 12, I'd have no problem taking him. Someone said he's pretty much Huerter, whilst that could be true, he could also become Klay Thompsonesque.

[nomorezorro]

i like knueppel because i think he's got a good chance of being a contributor just on the strength of his shooting, a solid chance of becoming a secondary creator type, and an outside chance of developing into an all-star level player because of the combination of those skills

looking at a continuum of like, luke kennard-joe ingles-bogdan bogdanovic-malcolm brogdon-desmond bane-klay thompson as a range of comparable outcomes that would be functional to incredible

[kodo]

My concern with Kon is that hitting standstill open 3s is really not very rare in the NBA. The guys who are making a difference from 3 at this point in the playoffs can shoot and make movement 3s, they don't have to be Steph but they have to pump fake the 3, dribble away from the close out and side step or step back into a 3. When it matters, teams aren't going to give you open 3s.

Kon was a terrible dribble shooter, KOC said he was 3 for 21 on dribble 3s. Maybe it's just a matter of him developing that more, but 3P shooting is the entire reason Kon is going so high.

[nomorezorro]

he's a plus movement shooter off the catch though (39% on threes off screens) and elite on contested c&s opportunities (43% 3pt)

the off the dribble numbers are a legit concern and something he'll likely have to develop to fully realize his potential, but he's openly stated that's not really something he's ever worked on until now. based on how he shoots in every other facet of the game, you'd think he'd have a good shot at figuring that out

[2weekswithpay]

Kon got to the rim way more than your traditional shooter. For comparison, Kon took 122 shots at the rim, and only 27% of those shots were assisted makes. Huerter got 119 shots at the rim in 2 seasons at Maryland, and around half of those were assisted on. I'm not sure this will translate, but Kon did more on offense than most shooters as a passer and creator.

I'm skeptical about drafting SGs, but I don't think Kon should be viewed as a tier lower than Tre Johnson. If Kon is just a shooter, then what is Tre Johnson?

[kulaz3000]

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Not that I want to use the number 12 on Carter, unless we can secure a high second round pick by going down a few spots in the first round, but Carter is the type of player that we hope that Patrick would have become, and I think he can pretty much do what Patrick does but better right out of the gate. And the reason why is because he is currently a 3 and D player, but Carter makes a lot of hustle plays, and really sprints and exerts energy an area in which Patrick lacks.

If he can work on his handle and become a better shooter, man, he could be very interesting prospect.

[Jcool0]

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[BullsSD]

If we are honest, Kon has like a 1% chance to be available at 12. He’s too safe of a pick when you have some question marks 4-11.

The only guy I see slipping right now is Queen unless players like Demin, Richardson, Essengue, CMB, Wolf go before 12. Maybe Coward too. Those are the guys teams may swing for. If those guys get in the mix after Bailey/Johnson, we are in business for a chaotic and opportunistic draft.

[GuardianEnzo]

A spot like #12 is a real test of an organization's scouting ability. Realistically you have a board - BPA 1-xxx. If you're picking at 12 there's an overwhelming likelihood somebody you have ranked much higher will fall to you - maybe someone at 5-8 on your list. The question comes down to how good you are at making that list.

[Muzbar]

My top 12:

Khaman Maluach (dream, unlikely)
Tre Johnson (unlikely)
Carter Bryant
Thomas Sorber
Noa Essengue
Kasparas Jakucionis
Cedric Coward
Kon Knueppel
Jase Richardson
Rasheer Fleming
Egor Demin
Asa Newell

2nd round names I like: Rocco Zikarsky, Alex Condon, Bogoljub Marković, Hansen Yang, Hugo González & Noah Penda

[DuckIII]

he's a plus movement shooter off the catch though (39% on threes off screens) and elite on contested c&s opportunities (43% 3pt)

the off the dribble numbers are a legit concern and something he'll likely have to develop to fully realize his potential, but he's openly stated that's not really something he's ever worked on until now. based on how he shoots in every other facet of the game, you'd think he'd have a good shot at figuring that out

Yes Kon will be gone. But he’s one of the few 6-10 guys I would offer a tad to move up for. Even though I project him as a role player. He’s more than just a shooter though. He makes smart decisions with the ball, he reads defenses well to move without the ball. He’s got a lot of offensive glue potential to his game.

[kodo]

Kon got to the rim way more than your traditional shooter. For comparison, Kon took 122 shots at the rim, and only 27% of those shots were assisted makes. Huerter got 119 shots at the rim in 2 seasons at Maryland, and around half of those were assisted on. I'm not sure this will translate, but Kon did more on offense than most shooters as a passer and creator.

I'm skeptical about drafting SGs, but I don't think Kon should be viewed as a tier lower than Tre Johnson. If Kon is just a shooter, then what is Tre Johnson?

I think people are just skeptical that will be his job (dribble driving to the rim) on an NBA team, even if he's capable at the college level. If the Pels draft him, he's competing with CJ & Murray for that kind of role. If he falls to us, he'll be competing with Giddey & Coby for that role. If the Rockets draft him, FVV & Jalen Green.

Knecht was also an excellent finisher in college, he's almost exclusively a 3P shooter in LA.

[WesPeace]

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Almost Perfect Bulls next SF with 6'7, defensive ability and high BB IQ.. him, Coward or Bryant

[kulaz3000]

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Almost Perfect Bulls next SF with 6'7, defensive ability and high BB IQ.. him, Coward or Bryant

I actually think he is going to be really good, like a really good high level role player, but I just think there are higher potential players that will be available, albeit with much higher risk.

I'm pretty confident in saying that there is going to be a lot of teams that regret passing up on him, something about him when you watch him play, you just know he understands the game, and he is built to play basketball.

[League Circles]

A spot like #12 is a real test of an organization's scouting ability. Realistically you have a board - BPA 1-xxx. If you're picking at 12 there's an overwhelming likelihood somebody you have ranked much higher will fall to you - maybe someone at 5-8 on your list. The question comes down to how good you are at making that list.

For sure. It's virtually guaranteed that at least two of my top 9 guys will be available at 12, cause Rocco Zikarsky will be and he's my #6 overall, and then at least one of CMB, Maluach and Carter will be too.

[Guru]

I have no idea what Kon gives this team? Trade up for a rotational bench guy who can shoot?

do you think it's possible that someone thinks a consensus top 8 prospect in this draft projects as better than a rotational bench guy

He's a try hard plodding athlete that can shoot well.