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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#281 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 9:11 pm

Sixers in 4 wrote:Wanting to improve your roster and being able to do so are two different things. Giannis wants to win and the Bucks can't build a winning roster with what they have.

It's a ticking time bomb the only question is when it finally goes off


Sometimes the best move is no move and that goes for both parties. We have countless examples of superstars forcing trades to other teams and then barely being better than the teams that they left. Or teams almost trading players and holding off only for those players to contribute to success down the line.
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Post#282 » by eyeatoma » Sat May 24, 2025 10:49 pm

This is the longest meeting ever...
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Post#283 » by FarBeyondDriven » Sat May 24, 2025 10:56 pm

Bernman wrote:Many fell for the corporate propaganda again, then didn't handle it well belied their expectations.

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FarBeyondDriven wrote:if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


You'd know. Sacramento are the kings of irrelevance.


exactly, which is why I know he should leave. If he had a GM that knew how to draft and surround him with talent of course he should stay. But he doesn't and he's never going to win another title with the Bucks
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Post#284 » by Wolves21 » Sun May 25, 2025 12:26 am

The real question is what do both parties truly want.If both really want to go for titles clearly the best route to go would be a parting of ways. As others stated with the Bucks current roster and lack of picks by the time they might be in the mix again Giannis very well could be in his mid 30's or even retired.The lack of picks is what will kill them and even with cap room in a year or two its extremely hard to bring in talent to a team like the Bucks in the mid west.

Trade to the Spurs or Rockets makes the most sense again for both parties.If you can get a few 1st round picks as Castle from the Spurs or a few 1st and a talent like Thompson or Sengun from the Rockets you have to and should do it.

You'd get back a young promising possible all star level talent(In the case of Sengun former all-star) future picks(If I am giving up one of those talents only offering one or two 1st rounders) and cap room.
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if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


Just because you guys traded your superstar to watch him possibly win a title doesn't mean we should.

His legacy isn't defined by what the casuals' standards are, which is to force himself onto a superteam so he can take the easy road to titles. I'd hope he's a deeper person than LeBron or Durant.

He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Post#286 » by Nuntius » Sun May 25, 2025 3:45 am

eyeatoma wrote:This is the longest meeting ever...


Giannis isn't leaving. He never was leaving. US media cannot really comprehend how international players operate and judge everything based on US standards and their "destination city" mentality that they love to push.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#287 » by th87 » Sun May 25, 2025 5:49 am

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if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


Just because you guys traded your superstar to watch him possibly win a title doesn't mean we should.

His legacy isn't defined by what the casuals' standards are, which is to force himself onto a superteam so he can take the easy road to titles. I'd hope he's a deeper person than LeBron or Durant.

He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Why's it dumb?

Because it doesn't conform to the American ideal of the destination at all costs, at the expense of the satisfaction of an honest and honorable journey?

Some people don't want to be handed success. I think Giannis wants to give it his best shot and wants the Bucks to as well. If it doesn't work out, it wasn't meant to.

"It's hard, so I want to team up with other superstars" is some weak ass **** normalized by Lebron that not everyone shares.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#288 » by Sane » Sun May 25, 2025 5:53 am

I feel really bad for Bucks fans. They don’t really get it’s over. Like people who don’t know when it’s time to leave a relationship, they are like “you think you’ll have it better elsewhere?? Don’t you remember the glory days?”

Meanwhile of course the Bucks want to trade him. They have no path to winning a title. The franchise needs a reset whether thinking about titles or business.

Giannis doesn’t want to leave the city but you and I both know he loves winning titles more than he loves comfort. He’s left his home for a better situation a couple of times in life. Once you’ve left countries to seek a better life, it’s not difficult to do it anymore. Growing up Nigerian in Greece, he’s always understood that sometimes you sadly have to put you and your family’s highest potential first, before nostalgia and comfort.

If both parties wanted to stay together it would have leaked all over the news. They’d both be excited to put this thing to rest ASAP. Who wants this cloud hanging over them?

I’ll be here for you Bucks fans, even if you dug your heels in and lashed out at people and created logical narratives and it feels like death to face the situation. I know you have to believe sometimes but if it helps at all your future is truly better if you trade him. You’re at a dead end and you deserve better too.
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Post#289 » by RRyder823 » Sun May 25, 2025 7:11 am

Sane wrote:I feel really bad for Bucks fans. They don’t really get it’s over. Like people who don’t know when it’s time to leave a relationship, they are like “you think you’ll have it better elsewhere?? Don’t you remember the glory days?”

Meanwhile of course the Bucks want to trade him. They have no path to winning a title. The franchise needs a reset whether thinking about titles or business.

Giannis doesn’t want to leave the city but you and I both know he loves winning titles more than he loves comfort. He’s left his home for a better situation a couple of times in life. Once you’ve left countries to seek a better life, it’s not difficult to do it anymore. Growing up Nigerian in Greece, he’s always understood that sometimes you sadly have to put you and your family’s highest potential first, before nostalgia and comfort.

If both parties wanted to stay together it would have leaked all over the news.
They’d both be excited to put this thing to rest ASAP. Who wants this cloud hanging over them?

I’ll be here for you Bucks fans, even if you dug your heels in and lashed out at people and created logical narratives and it feels like death to face the situation. I know you have to believe sometimes but if it helps at all your future is truly better if you trade him. You’re at a dead end and you deserve better too.


Or.... Now hear me out..... This is the exact same bull reporting done on him the last 8 years and people just project what THEY want him to do

and FYI Giannis talked to Milwaukee management a while ago and told him he's not requesting a trade but suprise suprise what gets "reported" is a quote on draft night about him "being open to possibilities about his future" (because who the **** isn't?) and spun by our outstanding media outlets into him wanting out.

They've been doing it for almost a decade but since so many are so ready to eat it up i 100% understand why they do it even if i find it detestable

Denver fans this will be what you get to look forward too


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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#290 » by Knicks365247 » Sun May 25, 2025 8:59 am

Giannis is still getting traded…

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Post#291 » by durden_tyler » Sun May 25, 2025 10:07 am

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Just because you guys traded your superstar to watch him possibly win a title doesn't mean we should.

His legacy isn't defined by what the casuals' standards are, which is to force himself onto a superteam so he can take the easy road to titles. I'd hope he's a deeper person than LeBron or Durant.

He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Why's it dumb?

Because it doesn't conform to the American ideal of the destination at all costs, at the expense of the satisfaction of an honest and honorable journey?

Some people don't want to be handed success. I think Giannis wants to give it his best shot and wants the Bucks to as well. If it doesn't work out, it wasn't meant to.

"It's hard, so I want to team up with other superstars" is some weak ass **** normalized by Lebron that not everyone shares.


Couldn't care less what American ideals are but simiplifying it, it's just dumb for a franchise to hold on to a player when the other option is to improve the franchise long-term. i get it, loyalty is cool and makes a great story but the smarter franchise will do the right thing for their franchise. The Bucks are not smart if they don't trade Giannis and if their fans accept this and accept that they'll be mired in mediocrity for a number of years, that's okay too.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#292 » by Sane » Sun May 25, 2025 10:49 am

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Sane wrote:I feel really bad for Bucks fans. They don’t really get it’s over. Like people who don’t know when it’s time to leave a relationship, they are like “you think you’ll have it better elsewhere?? Don’t you remember the glory days?”

Meanwhile of course the Bucks want to trade him. They have no path to winning a title. The franchise needs a reset whether thinking about titles or business.

Giannis doesn’t want to leave the city but you and I both know he loves winning titles more than he loves comfort. He’s left his home for a better situation a couple of times in life. Once you’ve left countries to seek a better life, it’s not difficult to do it anymore. Growing up Nigerian in Greece, he’s always understood that sometimes you sadly have to put you and your family’s highest potential first, before nostalgia and comfort.

If both parties wanted to stay together it would have leaked all over the news.
They’d both be excited to put this thing to rest ASAP. Who wants this cloud hanging over them?

I’ll be here for you Bucks fans, even if you dug your heels in and lashed out at people and created logical narratives and it feels like death to face the situation. I know you have to believe sometimes but if it helps at all your future is truly better if you trade him. You’re at a dead end and you deserve better too.


Or.... Now hear me out..... This is the exact same bull reporting done on him the last 8 years and people just project what THEY want him to do

and FYI Giannis talked to Milwaukee management a while ago and told him he's not requesting a trade but suprise suprise what gets "reported" is a quote on draft night about him "being open to possibilities about his future" (because who the **** isn't?) and spun by our outstanding media outlets into him wanting out.

They've been doing it for almost a decade but since so many are so ready to eat it up i 100% understand why they do it even if i find it detestable

Denver fans this will be what you get to look forward too


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Man listen, it's really important you understand that you're a Bucks fan. There are things exaggerated for you that are not exaggerated for us. I barely remember any news about Giannis getting traded and I've been visiting this site for 10 years. There's been tons of players rumored and yes I'm sure Giannis has been one of them. Other than the MVP candidates, no one goes untouched.

This dramatic world where everyone is trying to get Giannis out of Milwaukee is only the experience of Bucks fans. There's no conspiracy. Lots of journalists make up fake stuff and we all know that - you're not especially informed about that. Some are right sometimes. Some are often telling the truth that someone told them.

The contract, context and team situation are what make this the first time anyone can take a Giannis rumor seriously. Trust me, we (Rockets) heard about trading Hakeem constantly before he was traded. We heard about Harden in trade rumors before the real news started circling. There's a massive difference between random rumors and when news is real. These are not random rumors. He has 2 guaranteed years on his contract, he's an athleticism-based 31 year old who will decline quickly, that's a small market that can't let assets just retire/walk without recouping value, they've been knocked out of the first round, his sidekick is likely out most of next season, waiting one more year means he gets to dictate where he goes. There are realities here you have to wake up to. Even if you don't believe he's going to get traded - which is a fair prediction - you sitting here and acting like nothing is going on just shows us you're out of touch with reality. You're not looking at the good and the bad. You're just praying and that's why your voice won't hold any weight to anyone.

When we hear a Bucks fan going "there are serious issues, this is a legit question, my prediction is yes/no about the trade" then we're communicating with someone who's willing to stop being so fearful and just discuss things. I'm telling you honestly, this is a situation. This is not all manufactured. There's a possibility the ownership and management have to consider for the well-being of the franchise EVEN if Giannis doesn't want to move. You may be ok with it but it's not a commercially smart decision and small market teams that get emotionally attached always get burned. You better hope your management is being business-minded. Giannis is a once in a lifetime player but there's not many years left on that body. If you can get 3-4 players worth $20-25m that's a great place to start rebuilding a champion. Nothing to be ashamed of. You'll win again, Giannis is not your only hope.

Really feel bad for you guys. We're all just discussing things here and it feels like some of you want to just kick and scream because you can't practice some acceptance that there's some danger on the table. There's no conspiracy going on here, this is real life. You'll be alright no matter what happens, whichever way the franchise goes there's work to be done that will be very fun to do.
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Post#293 » by jokeboy86 » Sun May 25, 2025 10:58 am

durden_tyler wrote:
th87 wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Why's it dumb?

Because it doesn't conform to the American ideal of the destination at all costs, at the expense of the satisfaction of an honest and honorable journey?

Some people don't want to be handed success. I think Giannis wants to give it his best shot and wants the Bucks to as well. If it doesn't work out, it wasn't meant to.

"It's hard, so I want to team up with other superstars" is some weak ass **** normalized by Lebron that not everyone shares.


Couldn't care less what American ideals are but simiplifying it, it's just dumb for a franchise to hold on to a player when the other option is to improve the franchise long-term. i get it, loyalty is cool and makes a great story but the smarter franchise will do the right thing for their franchise. The Bucks are not smart if they don't trade Giannis and if their fans accept this and accept that they'll be mired in mediocrity for a number of years, that's okay too.


I don’t think you understand how irrelevant the Bucks were locally pre-Giannis. And not just the team but how irrelevant the NBA was to many people aside from when the LeBrons, Kobes, or Steph’s came to town. The second Giannis isn’t on the Bucks, I’m not exaggerating when I say interest in the team, NBA, and also financially would actually crater. Bucks fans(and the Bucks themselves) would rather have 3 or however more years of Giannis’s prime and not contending then the unknown w/o a superstar, hoping u draft another elite player, and basically ignoring what happens in the NBA altogether. Every small market and basically every NBA franchise aside from the blue bloods(Lakers, Celtics, Heat, etc) would tell u the same thing. Also remember the Bucks are not the only game in town like several other NBA teams so it’s not hard for the local casual fan to pivot and flat out stop caring about the team until they get good again.

From the Bucks standpoint this is not just about basketball reasons.
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Post#294 » by vagelis » Sun May 25, 2025 11:06 am

Don't be surprised if the next coach of Bucks is Vasilis Spanoulis.

Antetokounmpo and Spanoulis have a very good relationship and Spanoulis has an impressive good coaching start.

If Antetokounmpo stays in Milwaukee, I can see it as a possibility
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Post#295 » by RRyder823 » Sun May 25, 2025 2:05 pm

Sane wrote:
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Sane wrote:I feel really bad for Bucks fans. They don’t really get it’s over. Like people who don’t know when it’s time to leave a relationship, they are like “you think you’ll have it better elsewhere?? Don’t you remember the glory days?”

Meanwhile of course the Bucks want to trade him. They have no path to winning a title. The franchise needs a reset whether thinking about titles or business.

Giannis doesn’t want to leave the city but you and I both know he loves winning titles more than he loves comfort. He’s left his home for a better situation a couple of times in life. Once you’ve left countries to seek a better life, it’s not difficult to do it anymore. Growing up Nigerian in Greece, he’s always understood that sometimes you sadly have to put you and your family’s highest potential first, before nostalgia and comfort.

If both parties wanted to stay together it would have leaked all over the news.
They’d both be excited to put this thing to rest ASAP. Who wants this cloud hanging over them?

I’ll be here for you Bucks fans, even if you dug your heels in and lashed out at people and created logical narratives and it feels like death to face the situation. I know you have to believe sometimes but if it helps at all your future is truly better if you trade him. You’re at a dead end and you deserve better too.


Or.... Now hear me out..... This is the exact same bull reporting done on him the last 8 years and people just project what THEY want him to do

and FYI Giannis talked to Milwaukee management a while ago and told him he's not requesting a trade but suprise suprise what gets "reported" is a quote on draft night about him "being open to possibilities about his future" (because who the **** isn't?) and spun by our outstanding media outlets into him wanting out.

They've been doing it for almost a decade but since so many are so ready to eat it up i 100% understand why they do it even if i find it detestable

Denver fans this will be what you get to look forward too


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Man listen, it's really important you understand that you're a Bucks fan. There are things exaggerated for you that are not exaggerated for us. I barely remember any news about Giannis getting traded and I've been visiting this site for 10 years. There's been tons of players rumored and yes I'm sure Giannis has been one of them. Other than the MVP candidates, no one goes untouched.

This dramatic world where everyone is trying to get Giannis out of Milwaukee is only the experience of Bucks fans. There's no conspiracy. Lots of journalists make up fake stuff and we all know that - you're not especially informed about that. Some are right sometimes. Some are often telling the truth that someone told them.

The contract, context and team situation are what make this the first time anyone can take a Giannis rumor seriously. Trust me, we (Rockets) heard about trading Hakeem constantly before he was traded. We heard about Harden in trade rumors before the real news started circling. There's a massive difference between random rumors and when news is real. These are not random rumors. He has 2 guaranteed years on his contract, he's an athleticism-based 31 year old who will decline quickly, that's a small market that can't let assets just retire/walk without recouping value, they've been knocked out of the first round, his sidekick is likely out most of next season, waiting one more year means he gets to dictate where he goes. There are realities here you have to wake up to. Even if you don't believe he's going to get traded - which is a fair prediction - you sitting here and acting like nothing is going on just shows us you're out of touch with reality. You're not looking at the good and the bad. You're just praying and that's why your voice won't hold any weight to anyone.

When we hear a Bucks fan going "there are serious issues, this is a legit question, my prediction is yes/no about the trade" then we're communicating with someone who's willing to stop being so fearful and just discuss things. I'm telling you honestly, this is a situation. This is not all manufactured. There's a possibility the ownership and management have to consider for the well-being of the franchise EVEN if Giannis doesn't want to move. You may be ok with it but it's not a commercially smart decision and small market teams that get emotionally attached always get burned. You better hope your management is being business-minded. Giannis is a once in a lifetime player but there's not many years left on that body. If you can get 3-4 players worth $20-25m that's a great place to start rebuilding a champion. Nothing to be ashamed of. You'll win again, Giannis is not your only hope.

Really feel bad for you guys. We're all just discussing things here and it feels like some of you want to just kick and scream because you can't practice some acceptance that there's some danger on the table. There's no conspiracy going on here, this is real life. You'll be alright no matter what happens, whichever way the franchise goes there's work to be done that will be very fun to do.


Sure thing. Keep telling yourself that. Every few months over the better part of the last decade a thread like this very one has popped up based on a innocuous tweet or article based on nothing other then someone's opinion and then taken and ran with

If you want to pretend that hasn't happened well then ok. You do you. It's not Bucks fans "kicking and screaming". It's Bucks fans telling you to give it a rest. But alas we know this thread will pop up again in 4 months because some "reporter" didn't like Giannis face when he was on the bench

And as an FYI no Bucks fans are acting like everything is all sunshine and roses. We know there isnt a clear path to contending with or without Giannis. We'd simply rather have Giannis and hope to catch lightning in a bottle with a few other moves then not having Giannis.

Hell if the Bucks had control of their own picks you could probably even sell me on a trade. But they don't so what your really selling is the idea that shipping off the most beloved player in the franchises history, without his request to do so, for a better chance to be a middling team 5 years from now

What you don't seem to be understanding is just how bad the Bucks were for how long before Giannis. I started getting into the NBA roughly in 1990 and saw the Bucks win exactly 2 PO series my entire life (both in the same season) before Giannis.

Dont act shocked or try and show empathy when all Bucks fans aren't scared to absolute death of the prospect of 2nd round ceilings because their superstar doesn't want to leave. For over 30 years round 2 was a dream






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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#296 » by Sixers in 4 » Sun May 25, 2025 2:38 pm

durden_tyler wrote:
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if it's true then he'll play out the rest of his career, potentially a decade, being irrelevant. Even if the Bucks had their draft picks their G.M. is a horrible drafter. But they don't. So there's really no way to improve this team enough to ever have them competing for championships ever again. But hey, it's Giannis' career. If he's happy that's all that matters. It certainly won't help his legacy though.


Just because you guys traded your superstar to watch him possibly win a title doesn't mean we should.

His legacy isn't defined by what the casuals' standards are, which is to force himself onto a superteam so he can take the easy road to titles. I'd hope he's a deeper person than LeBron or Durant.

He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Nah, he is just setting up his move. Dame said the same things the year right before he was traded. He wants to leave without being the bad guy this is the process demand the team improve and when they can't comeback a year later.

If I MIL I am putting my chips on the table asking him to sign an extension or moving him because next year Dame is going to be hurt. They are like going to be terrible. They don't have any assets to improve. To me it is sort of just setting up a scenario where the bucks are terrible and he's moved either at the deadline or the offseason
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#297 » by Chrhawk » Sun May 25, 2025 3:04 pm

Giannis wants to continue putting his best foot forward with the team that drafted him.

Why is that so hard for people to understand?

Don’t get me wrong, it’s fun playing myteam on 2K and trading Giannis to a contender but I don’t think that’s going to be a reality.

I’m tired of these pundits trying to will Giannis out of Milwaukee every offseason.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#298 » by CS707 » Sun May 25, 2025 3:58 pm

durden_tyler wrote:He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Totally. You’d never see a Euro forcing a transfer to a bigger club.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#299 » by Packbuckman » Sun May 25, 2025 4:17 pm

durden_tyler wrote:
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durden_tyler wrote:He has the Euro mentality. Too loyal to a fault. That’s respectable, but also dumb.


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Why's it dumb?

Because it doesn't conform to the American ideal of the destination at all costs, at the expense of the satisfaction of an honest and honorable journey?

Some people don't want to be handed success. I think Giannis wants to give it his best shot and wants the Bucks to as well. If it doesn't work out, it wasn't meant to.

"It's hard, so I want to team up with other superstars" is some weak ass **** normalized by Lebron that not everyone shares.


Couldn't care less what American ideals are but simiplifying it, it's just dumb for a franchise to hold on to a player when the other option is to improve the franchise long-term. i get it, loyalty is cool and makes a great story but the smarter franchise will do the right thing for their franchise. The Bucks are not smart if they don't trade Giannis and if their fans accept this and accept that they'll be mired in mediocrity for a number of years, that's okay too.

Your never going to get true value for Giannis ever so I am not trading him and the 3 yrs of 1st rd exits in a row two yrs Giannis was hurt and this yr Dame was and the pacers are kicking everyone’s ass this yr. Once Doc benched kuzma and prince we held our own with the pacers without dame. Giannis plus shooters is a very dangerous team not mediocre at all that’s how great Giannis is plus he’s just as great a person and you don’t trade that.
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Re: Haynes: Giannis, Bucks Meeting Next Week to Discuss the Direction of the Team 

Post#300 » by Bernman » Sun May 25, 2025 4:30 pm

Today's reality is not tomorrow's. The Dame albatross contract flips to a big asset the following season. It's a huge expiring for apron relief. Can net you a good player. Or they can clear cap for 2 years from now to add to Giannis in FA.

In the next 1-2 years the Bucks take a gamble the KPJ-Giannis partnership, which was +21 per 100 in the regular season. KPJ put up a line per 36: 21/7/7/2+ nobody else in the NBA did. This playoffs was his 1st. And the Bucks had the #1 3 pt% in the NBA. That's not Giannis. So the cupboard isn't totally bare. It's just not the ideal situation. Job 1 is firing Doc, the worst coach in the NBA. Until then you can't truly know what they're capable of. Last season the Bucks were 32-14 before switching to Doc who went 15-17.

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