2024-25 English Premier League Discussion Thread

[magik9113]

Newcastle qualify for CL. wow

[stormi]

Next Sunday's Nottingham Forest vs. Chelsea match has so many implications for top-5.

I'm gonna root hard for Nottingham Forest, it is like a huge final.
I hope Forest don't choke for their fans and it would be fun if Chelsea's twisted formula isn't rewarded with CL spot.

Forest had the same formula as us?

They've signed like 40 players in the past 3 years and have spent half a billion on their squad chopping and changing.

They're no cinderella story. They (AND YOU) got rightfully handled by the Chels.

[Baphomet]

Thanks for the Europa League trophy Ange, you'll always be remembered fondly for that, but I hope this is the last game he coaches for us. It's time to move onwards and upwards. Bring in a new coach, bring in some signings with the CL money and prestige.

[LDNMagic90]

MY HEAD IS ON MARS

All season I’ve complained about refs and Villa, when it matters the most here comes PGMOL and shafts us.

Not even allowing VAR to look at our goal, when rogers didn’t even foul the United keeper. The guy literally lost control of the ball and Rogers scored.

We didn’t turn up for the game and United deserved to win but blimey that’s the worst ref performance I’ve ever seen in my life.

That decision cost us £100 mill.

I will forever hate this league.

[Baphomet]

MY HEAD IS ON MARS

All season I’ve complained about refs and Villa, when it matters the most here comes PGMOL and shafts us.

Not even allowing VAR to look at our goal, when rogers didn’t even foul the United keeper. The guy literally lost control of the ball and Rogers scored.

We didn’t turn up for the game and United deserved to win but blimey that’s the worst ref performance I’ve ever seen in my life.

That decision cost us £100 mill.

I will forever hate this league.

I just saw the decision from the Rogers non-goal/Bayindir's mess-up, what a disgrace.

[Wisky4life]

Nah im good with a United win. Should have been like 5-1 United but the ball shall not enter the net.

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[Cactus Jack]

Fun year. Let's do it again.

[wco81]

Next Sunday's Nottingham Forest vs. Chelsea match has so many implications for top-5.

I'm gonna root hard for Nottingham Forest, it is like a huge final.
I hope Forest don't choke for their fans and it would be fun if Chelsea's twisted formula isn't rewarded with CL spot.

Forest had the same formula as us?

They've signed like 40 players in the past 3 years and have spent half a billion on their squad chopping and changing.

They're no cinderella story. They (AND YOU) got rightfully handled by the Chels.

They showed highlights of Sunderland scoring the winning goal in the 95th minute. They claimed it's worth $270 million to that club.

Is it that much more in revenues from the Championship to the PL for just one club?

[stormi]

I'm gonna root hard for Nottingham Forest, it is like a huge final.
I hope Forest don't choke for their fans and it would be fun if Chelsea's twisted formula isn't rewarded with CL spot.

Forest had the same formula as us?

They've signed like 40 players in the past 3 years and have spent half a billion on their squad chopping and changing.

They're no cinderella story. They (AND YOU) got rightfully handled by the Chels.

They showed highlights of Sunderland scoring the winning goal in the 95th minute. They claimed it's worth $270 million to that club.

Is it that much more in revenues from the Championship to the PL for just one club?

Sounds about right. There's a massive jump in revenue between the EFL and EPL. There's the equal share prem payment, TV rights, commercials, sponsorships. The money in the English top div is just silly.

You also get a hefty chunk of change for getting relegated. Sometimes teams use that money to build a foundation to stay afloat for good.

[wco81]

Forest had the same formula as us?

They've signed like 40 players in the past 3 years and have spent half a billion on their squad chopping and changing.

They're no cinderella story. They (AND YOU) got rightfully handled by the Chels.

They showed highlights of Sunderland scoring the winning goal in the 95th minute. They claimed it's worth $270 million to that club.

Is it that much more in revenues from the Championship to the PL for just one club?

Sounds about right. There's a massive jump in revenue between the EFL and EPL. There's the equal share prem payment, TV rights, commercials, sponsorships. The money in the English top div is just silly.

You also get a hefty chunk of change for getting relegated. Sometimes teams use that money to build a foundation to stay afloat for good.

I know there's a big increase in TV money but I thought that was maybe tens of millions. Like a UCL berth was worth about 40-50 million Euros, from TV and presumably all the match day revenues.

But are promoted teams going to see a big jump in match day revenues? Or maybe clubs put out special PL kits so that there's a jump in jersey sales in that first year of promotion?

They say Sunderland hasn't been in the PL for 9 years. It didn't seem like it was that long ago when they were in the PL.

Can the club raise the ticket prices by a lot or dynamic pricing is going to yield them more revenues because of greater demand for tickets?

Maybe that's what that $270 million figure is about, not greater revenues for the club but the overall economic impact to the city and area.

You also wonder if hotels, restaurants, pubs, etc. all increase prices, at least around match days.

I was watching Welcome to Wrexham and they were talking about how much more they'd have to invest in infrastructure as they moved up the EFL. Not just build up their stadium but hire a lot more people. Someone noted the Arsenal and Man U each had like a thousand employees.

[danfantastk32]

MY HEAD IS ON MARS

All season I’ve complained about refs and Villa, when it matters the most here comes PGMOL and shafts us.

Not even allowing VAR to look at our goal, when rogers didn’t even foul the United keeper. The guy literally lost control of the ball and Rogers scored.

We didn’t turn up for the game and United deserved to win but blimey that’s the worst ref performance I’ve ever seen in my life.

That decision cost us £100 mill.

I will forever hate this league.

I find it so crazy that they didn't take a quick peek at VAR (not that that's flawless or anything).

"Where do you draw the line with VAR?" some people would ask. How about a goal-scoring opportunity on the last game of a season, with a team vying for a CL spot???!! Disgraceful doesn't begin to describe it. Criminal - I'd say. Not only should the ref be fired, but the league should be forced to recompense Villa for that disaster. To not even look?!?!

Sadly, they conceded a 2nd goal just minutes after...sparing the league horrible embarrassment, and giving them an 'out'. So nothing will come of this. But that was serious BS.

[wco81]

Thanks for the Europa League trophy Ange, you'll always be remembered fondly for that, but I hope this is the last game he coaches for us. It's time to move onwards and upwards. Bring in a new coach, bring in some signings with the CL money and prestige.

Wow, I didn't realize that the Spurs were in #17 spot, though 25 points above LC, so not really close to relegation.

[danfantastk32]

Fun year. Let's do it again.

No complaints with that outa me. Let's see how we look next year. I expect $ity will be back with half a billion in new signings as well.

[KG Leonard]

Next Sunday's Nottingham Forest vs. Chelsea match has so many implications for top-5.

I'm gonna root hard for Nottingham Forest, it is like a huge final.
I hope Forest don't choke for their fans and it would be fun if Chelsea's twisted formula isn't rewarded with CL spot.

Forest had the same formula as us?

They've signed like 40 players in the past 3 years and have spent half a billion on their squad chopping and changing.

They're no cinderella story. They (AND YOU) got rightfully handled by the Chels.

Yeah i know about Forest getting 40 players for pennies each and I still don't care for the way Chelsea work to get around the PSR rules. I have nothing against the Chelsea fans and I just found the new owners whole system to be a joke imo. They are not the only big team to do that of course.

Forest won't have many chances to get back to CL. Chelsea can waste 5 billions on Mudryk, Jackson and still get many more chances. There is a difference somewhere.

[Pipp33]

MY HEAD IS ON MARS

All season I’ve complained about refs and Villa, when it matters the most here comes PGMOL and shafts us.

Not even allowing VAR to look at our goal, when rogers didn’t even foul the United keeper. The guy literally lost control of the ball and Rogers scored.

We didn’t turn up for the game and United deserved to win but blimey that’s the worst ref performance I’ve ever seen in my life.

That decision cost us £100 mill.

I will forever hate this league.

It was a disgrace and for it to happen at this important time makes the error even more disgraceful.

Yes, Villa were awful and United were the better team, but that moment would have seen us leading 1-0 with 20 minutes to go.....who knows what happens in the game after that??

I'm glad we are lodging an official complaint, it's not going to change the result, but more teams need to do it when there's an almighty error that's not corrected by VAR.

For one of the biggest sporting leagues in the world, these things happen too often, especially with VAR

[Baseline81]

It was a disgrace and for it to happen at this important time makes the error even more disgraceful.

Yes, Villa were awful and United were the better team, but that moment would have seen us leading 1-0 with 20 minutes to go.....who knows what happens in the game after that??

I'm glad we are lodging an official complaint, it's not going to change the result, but more teams need to do it when there's an almighty error that's not corrected by VAR.

For one of the biggest sporting leagues in the world, these things happen too often, especially with VAR

Unfortunately, football is too tribal. No club backed Liverpool when Diaz’s legit goal was scored but not given due to those in the VAR booth being incompetent.

But I agree, Aston Villa’s mentality likely changes the moment that goal is allowed. A draw may have been on the cards, which would have seen them land ahead of Newcastle United.

[Shaazzam]

MY HEAD IS ON MARS

All season I’ve complained about refs and Villa, when it matters the most here comes PGMOL and shafts us.

Not even allowing VAR to look at our goal, when rogers didn’t even foul the United keeper. The guy literally lost control of the ball and Rogers scored.

We didn’t turn up for the game and United deserved to win but blimey that’s the worst ref performance I’ve ever seen in my life.

That decision cost us £100 mill.

I will forever hate this league.

Watching the game I heard the whistle go before the ball went in the net. You guys got robbed, but the play was dead. Horrid call by the ref.

[MaliBrah]

It was a disgrace and for it to happen at this important time makes the error even more disgraceful.

Yes, Villa were awful and United were the better team, but that moment would have seen us leading 1-0 with 20 minutes to go.....who knows what happens in the game after that??

I'm glad we are lodging an official complaint, it's not going to change the result, but more teams need to do it when there's an almighty error that's not corrected by VAR.

For one of the biggest sporting leagues in the world, these things happen too often, especially with VAR

Unfortunately, football is too tribal. No club backed Liverpool when Diaz’s legit goal was scored but not given due to those in the VAR booth being incompetent.

But I agree, Aston Villa’s mentality likely changes the moment that goal is allowed. A draw may have been on the cards, which would have seen them land ahead of Newcastle United.

PGMOL is a stain but this is the key , everyone laughs when they make mistakes instead of pushing for reform from those clowns or getting them out the game and a new body in to oversee it. Some of the decisions this year have been comedy lol