Free Agent, Trade, Buyout, Extension & Conversion Thread, 2025 con't

[Celts17Pride]

The Nets are going to have 29 teams trying to use their cap space. The Nets are in a great position to get maximum return and whatever they want for use of their cap space. If the Celtics want to use the Nets cap space they are going to have to pay up.

Deal has to make sense, Nets not going to be trying to do the Celtics favors. Who knows, maybe they still have resentment for the Pierce/KG trade.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't think the Nets could do better than Jaylen Brown, unless Milwaukee is willing to unload Giannis for nothing. I suppose Zion is a possibility as well.

[NotAKnicksFan]

I like jaylen but maybe jaylen abd pritchard + 1st round picks for giannis

Then get rid of kristals for a cheaper center

Keep jrue


Jrue
White
Tatum
Giannis

That core is amazing for next 5 years ( jrue replaced year 3)

This team actually wins a chip next year, as long as tatum is back and healthy by march

[Curmudgeon]

It might, if the new owners are willing to pay the tax. Too bad Ainge didn't draft Giannis when he has the chance.

[NotAKnicksFan]

Crazy part is i found out a out giannis from danny ainge

Danny was one of the first ppl scouting giannis and apparently really liked him. But he liked olynk
A shame but it worked out overall but now we can make everything whole

[The Corey's]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

[darrendaye]

Trading them both for very little returning Salary is not realistic. It’s mathematically possible sure, but not realistic. I don’t see Brad attaching the necessary assets to do it all this year, I don’t see ownership directing Brad to make panic moves.

Some of you guys are undervaluing Jrue and KP.

Jrue will be able to help young teams that are on the verge of becoming legit playoff teams.

KP has an expiring contract that might interest the Nets if the Nets want out of Claxton's 3 years remaining worth 69m.

Brad does not need to attach assets to get rid of Jrue and KP because both of them have trade value.

In specific situations yes I agree yes they both have value or at least not negative value. However dumping all of the salary requires a handful of specific scenarios.
We can come up with Scenarios that work. But there is very little cap space out there aside from the Nets, and they are going to look for the very best situations.

I expect they are going to waive and stretch a decent sized expiring contract as a part of the trade activity involved .

[playa-hater]

It seems like the Value Jrue may have, based on perception on here, has a wide margin. I guess I find myself in the middle somewhere. But it really doesn't help that his usage was so low these playoffs. Combine his age, contract size and some injury concerns, I have to think his "value" is not that high at the moment. How many contenders that can use Jrue that also have Cap space seems very limited.

Brad will really have to work his Magic this summer.

[FlatearthZorro]

I like jaylen but maybe jaylen abd pritchard + 1st round picks for giannis

Then get rid of kristals for a cheaper center

Keep jrue


Jrue
White
Tatum
Giannis

That core is amazing for next 5 years ( jrue replaced year 3)

This team actually wins a chip next year, as long as tatum is back and healthy by march

It would take Jaylen 3 FRPS, pick swaps and Pritchard for Giannis.

[FlatearthZorro]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

We don't have anybody to trade for him.
Doubt Mavs take brown and Tatum is injured long term.

[FlatearthZorro]

The Nets are going to have 29 teams trying to use their cap space. The Nets are in a great position to get maximum return and whatever they want for use of their cap space. If the Celtics want to use the Nets cap space they are going to have to pay up.

Deal has to make sense, Nets not going to be trying to do the Celtics favors. Who knows, maybe they still have resentment for the Pierce/KG trade.

I kinda agree, but it's not 29, it's 4-5. It will still be costly. I wouldn't mind just cutting 10-15 mils.
The Jrue to DAL trade(which imo is good for both)
And Porzingis and #32 for Collins

[yeleven11]

The more I look at the cap landscape around the league and the free agent market, I think Celtics cutting salary this offseason would be pretty easy. They just have to be 3 team trades.

1) Teams can use the MLE as trade exceptions. The MLE for the upcoming season is slotted for 14.1million and it looks like about 20 teams or more will have access to it. This means that in any trade celtics work out to cut salary, they should be able to move any salary less than 14.1 mil to a third team with the MLE without taking any salary back (assuming this contract isn’t a bad one)

2. Dry free agent market - this point is related to #1. The free agent market is weak and there are not many players worth the MLE for all 20-ish teams to spend it during free agency. Going back to point 1, some of these teams would be left with the MLE but no one worth it to use it on in FA. So those teams are more likely to be a third team in celtics trades to take back a useful player into their MLE that the celtics don’t want to take back in a trade.

3. Trade exceptions - a number of teams have sizeable trade exceptions that make them good third teams in trades similarly to what i described in point 1. Atlanta has two (a 25M one and a 13M one),
Chicago has a 17m one, kings have a 16m one, miami has a 16m one, pelicans have a 13m one, dallas has a 11m one, and several teams have ones above 7m. Brooklyn also has a 23m one but they’re also a cap space team and have been mentioned here plenty.

[The Corey's]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

We don't have anybody to trade for him.
Doubt Mavs take brown and Tatum is injured long term.

So it's bust?

[165bows]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

We don't have anybody to trade for him.
Doubt Mavs take brown and Tatum is injured long term.

So it's bust?

Ah we just need a little patience seven years isn’t that long really

[Curmudgeon]

We don't have anybody to trade for him.
Doubt Mavs take brown and Tatum is injured long term.

So it's bust?

Ah we just need a little patience seven years isn’t that long really

LOL, I'd love to trade JB for the rights to Flagg, especially if I could be a fly on the wall in the Mavs locker room with Kyrie and Jaylen in it together.

[FarBeyondDriven]

hey guys, can you please let know what the deal was with Jrue Holidays extension? I'm hearing rumors of a potential Holiday for DeRozan trade. I was wondering why you extended him. Didn't he say a few years ago he was already contemplating retirement and wanted to retire after this season? Seems like an odd choice to extend him given that and the fact that the apron and cap ramifications were known at the time. This contract along is responsible for most your of cap problems. Is it just a case of feeling you had to do it to try and repeat? I'm just worried if we get saddled with it he might not be motivated as the saying goes, once you consider retiring you have one foot out the door. Thanks

[bigfoot_cryptozoology]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

You mean Hansen Yang or but...

[The Corey's]

Cooper Flagg or bust.

You mean Hansen Yang or but...

Blow this **** up. The window is shut.

[BillessuR6]

hey guys, can you please let know what the deal was with Jrue Holidays extension? I'm hearing rumors of a potential Holiday for DeRozan trade. I was wondering why you extended him. Didn't he say a few years ago he was already contemplating retirement and wanted to retire after this season? Seems like an odd choice to extend him given that and the fact that the apron and cap ramifications were known at the time. This contract along is responsible for most your of cap problems. Is it just a case of feeling you had to do it to try and repeat? I'm just worried if we get saddled with it he might not be motivated as the saying goes, once you consider retiring you have one foot out the door. Thanks

Jrue declined his $37.4-million player option as part of the extension (and made $30.1 million in his first year), so that was massive for the luxury tax...

And Brad loves Jrue, so he sees him here long term or he is sure it will be no problem trading him even with this extension...

[Celts17Pride]

Three team trade of the day based on rumored Kings interest in Jrue Holiday:

Celtics trade: Jrue Holiday
Celtics get: Josh Green, Josh Okogie, #34 pick from Char, future 2nd round pick from Kings

Kings trade: DeRozan, Isaac Jones, future 2nd round pick
Kings get: Jrue Holiday

Hornets trade: Josh Green, Josh Okogie, #34 pick
Hornets get: DeRozan, Isaac Jones

Celtics get a young wing who can shoot the 3 (Green), expiring contract (Okogie), #34 pick, future 2nd round pick and save $10.9 million in cap space for 2025/2026.