Linings for Collins

radtech · Post #1 » by **radtech** » Mon May 26, 2025 1:49 am

Why for Jazz, one of the most athletic gifted players who needs playing time and won't be replaced after making a mistake immediately. Inconsistent playing time is hurting his development. The Jazz are a younger team that can live with his mistakes as he is only 22.

Why for Dubs, they some more size and consistency and Collins gives them an inside/outside presence it badly needs. And only 27 years old he just has more experience.

Both need new contracts so a sign and trade hopefully at somewhat matching salary of between 25-30 million a year for both players at 5 years each will do.

babyjax13 · Post #2 » by **babyjax13** » Mon May 26, 2025 2:04 am

Is this ... Kuminga? Golden State effectively can't sign and trade him unless it is for the MLE or less. I'm also not interested in him for anything more than that, certainly not over 20 million.

daoneandonly · Post #3 » by **daoneandonly** » Mon May 26, 2025 2:10 am

ReggiesKnicks · Post #4 » by **ReggiesKnicks** » Mon May 26, 2025 2:15 am

While the idea of S+T two similar salary should be simple, it isn't. It hard caps both teams and requires both players to agree to go to the other team.

Case2012 · Post #5 » by **Case2012** » Mon May 26, 2025 5:21 am

Poor choice in title. No idea who this is.

ecuhus1981 · Post #6 » by **ecuhus1981** » Mon May 26, 2025 11:42 am

Autocorrect got us all like huh?

Yeah, I don't see Utah making a hard push for Kuminga, and accepting him via sign and trade would hard cap them. GSW would probably prefer the cap savings if letting him walk, if they can't orchestrate a S&T that simply nets them a TPE and future draft assets.

LofJ · Post #7 » by **LofJ** » Mon May 26, 2025 1:20 pm

If Utah wants to move Collins I'd bet the Hornets would be one of the more interested teams. They've been interested in him before and they have contracts/picks to spare.

Post #8 » by **gswhoops** » Mon May 26, 2025 2:18 pm

Collins is fine, and he does some things we could use, but he wouldn't be my first choice this offseason and so I'd probably be more inclined to just S&T Kuminga for a TPE and then explore trade options with that.

Less than zero interest in Collins if he's coming attached to a $100 million plus extension like the OP's suggesting.

Post #9 » by **gswhoops** » Mon May 26, 2025 2:24 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Is this ... Kuminga? Golden State effectively can't sign and trade him unless it is for the MLE or less. I'm also not interested in him for anything more than that, certainly not over 20 million.

Why is that? IIRC sending out a player via S&T only hard caps you at the second apron, but I feel like there's always some angle I'm missing with this new CBA.