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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#201 » by JustBuzzin » Mon May 26, 2025 1:40 am

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Diop wrote:easy yes for me, KAT has plenty of holes in his game, but the talent upgrade is too good and we get rid of the headache.

KAT will be in PHX they will trade him for KD

And have Mitch as their only Centre??

Make it a bigger deal they get KD and Richards for Towns and filler.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#202 » by Diop » Mon May 26, 2025 1:44 am

JustBuzzin wrote:
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JustBuzzin wrote:KAT will be in PHX they will trade him for KD

And have Mitch as their only Centre??

Make it a bigger deal they get KD and Richards for Towns and filler.

I think they shouldn't blow anything up, but we shall see
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#203 » by KingCat » Mon May 26, 2025 2:29 am

KingCat wrote:Don't see KAT making a big enough difference here. Not really a floor raiser, more of a good complimentary piece next to good defenders or two way players.

For example he needed Butler, Ant, Gobert to find success.


Of course bro has the best moment of his career as soon as I finish trashing him :lol:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#204 » by Diop » Mon May 26, 2025 3:00 am

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KingCat wrote:Don't see KAT making a big enough difference here. Not really a floor raiser, more of a good complimentary piece next to good defenders or two way players.

For example he needed Butler, Ant, Gobert to find success.


Of course bro has the best moment of his career as soon as I finish trashing him :lol:

best game i've personally seen him play
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#205 » by yosemiteben » Mon May 26, 2025 3:36 am

My personal favorite KAT game that I've seen was when he scored 75 for MIN and by some miracle we still beat them
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#206 » by Diop » Mon May 26, 2025 3:45 am

yosemiteben wrote:My personal favorite KAT game that I've seen was when he scored 75 for MIN and by some miracle we still beat them

i honestly dont remember it

edit: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202401220MIN.html

Found it, it was 62. We started PJ at centre as we had none!

he shot 10 threes, such a KAT thing to do.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#207 » by HornetJail » Mon May 26, 2025 4:04 am

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yosemiteben wrote:My personal favorite KAT game that I've seen was when he scored 75 for MIN and by some miracle we still beat them

i honestly dont remember it

edit: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202401220MIN.html

Found it, it was 62. We started PJ at centre as we had none!

he shot 10 threes, such a KAT thing to do.

one of my favorite games of the last three seasons, KAT had 59 or so through three quarters and then the rest of the Wolves forgot KAT existed, and KAT tried way too hard in his few touches that he totally burned himself out and we had a field day in the 4th. Leaky Black had game winning FTs. It was also Terry's last game as a Hornet iirc

Same night as Embiid's 70 piece as well
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#208 » by fatlever » Mon May 26, 2025 6:23 pm

have the buzzbeats guys lost the plot or am i missing something? they proposed this trade with pelicans

hornets trade: #4, #34, mark, nsj

for

#7 herb jones

i like herb jones, and im lower on both mark and nsj than most, but explain how herb is worth that package?

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#209 » by fatlever » Mon May 26, 2025 6:27 pm

my counter to that would be

#4 josh green
for
#7 herb jones

add 2nd rd picks as needed
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#210 » by driveandkick » Mon May 26, 2025 6:35 pm

Idk if I can be sold on any deal that has us moving down. As little faith as I have in us I’d imagine our board will have a pretty big difference in our fourth graded player and seventh. We should not gamble on moving down for an inferior talent only to add a role player
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#211 » by JustBuzzin » Mon May 26, 2025 6:36 pm

My counter to that would be

#4/Bridges/Mark/Salaun
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#7/Zion

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#212 » by Hornet Mania » Mon May 26, 2025 6:47 pm

That looks like the worst draft night consolidation trade for a veteran imaginable from my point of view. Maybe I'm just severely underrating Jones.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#213 » by Braggins » Mon May 26, 2025 6:51 pm

fatlever wrote:my counter to that would be

#4 josh green
for
#7 herb jones

add 2nd rd picks as needed

The interesting question is who to draft at #7 if they moved back. People might think Im crazy, but Id be pushing for Demin and Jaku (besides more obvious like Fears if he falls). I still wouldn't want Kon.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#214 » by fatlever » Mon May 26, 2025 7:01 pm

Braggins wrote:
fatlever wrote:my counter to that would be

#4 josh green
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#7 herb jones

add 2nd rd picks as needed

The interesting question is who to draft at #7 if they moved back. People might think Im crazy, but Id be pushing for Demin and Jaku (besides more obvious like Fears if he falls). I still wouldn't want Kon.


i havent spent a ton of time looking at that next tier unless one of tre, vj, ace, kon magically fell to 7.

so... ace/vj/tre + green
or kon/fears/jaku/malauch/demin?/cmb/carter-bryant + herb

i can see arguments both ways.

id be pretty happy with a kon/herb draft night. we dont get a shot at a future star but we add 2 very high level starter/role player
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#215 » by SWedd523 » Mon May 26, 2025 7:38 pm

If a year ago you told me we were going to have a horrific season but the reward is Kon and Herb Jones, I'd track you down just to dent your car door
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#216 » by fatlever » Mon May 26, 2025 7:47 pm

SWedd523 wrote:If a year ago you told me we were going to have a horrific season but the reward is Kon and Herb Jones, I'd track you down just to dent your car door


lol. yet here we are.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#217 » by fatlever » Mon May 26, 2025 7:51 pm

maybe its because i dont really believe in ace/vj/tre/kon as potential melo level players. each have such massive holes to fix. all 4 are most likely high end starter/role players. so instead of swinging for a home run, move back and grab a two doubles and dump green.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#218 » by Braggins » Mon May 26, 2025 8:17 pm

I don't know if its actually the smart thing to do but I just personally like Demin and Jaku so if they traded back a few spots and got some value out of it I wouldnt hate it.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#219 » by Braggins » Mon May 26, 2025 8:20 pm

fatlever wrote:maybe its because i dont really believe in ace/vj/tre/kon as potential melo level players. each have such massive holes to fix. all 4 are most likely high end starter/role players. so instead of swinging for a home run, move back and grab a two doubles and dump green.

This is honestly kind of why I prefer VJ at #4. I think he has the easiest path to being a high end starter with some two-way impact and I just don't feel super confident about any of these guys becoming true stars. It feels like VJ's medium and low end outcomes might be better than Ace/Tre.

Maybe its cowardly, but its easy to fall into that kind of thinking if I don't actually thoroughly scout these guys.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#220 » by JustBuzzin » Mon May 26, 2025 8:21 pm

Braggins wrote:I don't know if its actually the smart thing to do but I just personally like Demin and Jaku so if they traded back a few spots and got some value out of it I wouldnt hate it.

I said this in the Demin thread.

If we can get a legit starter I would love the idea of Demin as a trade back option. He needs to get stronger, but I love the idea of him being a secondary playmaker in the starting unit.

We would have to get a starter back tho.

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