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2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1321 » by sco » Sun May 25, 2025 1:03 pm

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He gives me Ausar Thompson vibes. If we're keeping Coby, he's a guy who could step into the line-up, along with a good defensive C (who I'd like to try Smith) to give us a much better balanced line-up: Giddey, Coby, CMB, Matas, Smith. IMO, it will aid in Matas' offensive growth, taking a bigger role.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1322 » by Jcool0 » Sun May 25, 2025 1:17 pm

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Guru wrote:I have no idea what Kon gives this team? Trade up for a rotational bench guy who can shoot?


do you think it's possible that someone thinks a consensus top 8 prospect in this draft projects as better than a rotational bench guy

No. You're not allowed to like a player someone else doesn't.

Personally, I wouldn't trade up for Kon, but if he were available at 12, I'd have no problem taking him. Someone said he's pretty much Huerter, whilst that could be true, he could also become Klay Thompsonesque.


Is being Huerter 2.0 bad? I get you dont want Sac Huerter... But he averaged almost 15 ppg (7.6 3PA at 39%) with 3.2 rebounds and 3.4 assists with a +/- of +8.9 with the Bulls. Sure that wont get him on an all NBA team but that is a pretty valuable player to have. I dont think you would call Kon a disappointment if he is goes #6 and is just a 16/4/3 guy playing "winning" basketball.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1323 » by Jcool0 » Sun May 25, 2025 1:29 pm

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Almost Perfect Bulls next SF with 6'7, defensive ability and high BB IQ.. him, Coward or Bryant


I actually think he is going to be really good, like a really good high level role player, but I just think there are higher potential players that will be available, albeit with much higher risk.

I'm pretty confident in saying that there is going to be a lot of teams that regret passing up on him, something about him when you watch him play, you just know he understands the game, and he is built to play basketball.


If you think he will be completing for All Defensive teams not sure there are going to be higher upside players at 12. Which is more realistic outcome then saying guys projected to be 3-D players will become Paul George.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1324 » by HomoSapien » Sun May 25, 2025 8:13 pm

He sadly just doesn't have the physical profile of an AKME pick. I'm intrigued by him, but they seem like they particularly like big guards, passers, ball-handler types.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1325 » by Jvaughn » Sun May 25, 2025 10:46 pm

One of the ones people were waiting on:

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1326 » by Chi town » Mon May 26, 2025 4:26 am

Jvaughn wrote:One of the ones people were waiting on:



I’d love to see a Zo, Coby, Giddey, Buz, Noa lineup.

Coward Noa KJ are my hopes.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1328 » by DuckIII » Mon May 26, 2025 5:21 pm

Chi town wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-drafts-big-boards/2025-nba-mock-draft-two-round-projections-with-less-than-one-month-remaining


I approve. I also approve of trading up to get KJ if the NBA has another collective brain cramp and he ends up anywhere near #12 (10 in this). Walking out of these two drafts with Matas and KJ - both top 5 picks on talent - would be a damn miracle. It would almost be like proper rebuilding.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1329 » by Chi town » Mon May 26, 2025 5:28 pm

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Chi town wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-drafts-big-boards/2025-nba-mock-draft-two-round-projections-with-less-than-one-month-remaining


I approve. I also approve of trading up to get KJ if the NBA has another collective brain cramp and he ends up anywhere near #12 (10 in this). Walking out of these two drafts with Matas and KJ - both top 5 picks on talent - would be a damn miracle. It would almost be like proper rebuilding.


I think KJ will drop and is gettable. He very well could drop to 12.

Flagg
Harper
Ace
VJ
Tre
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Kon
Bryant
Malauch
CMB
Demin
KJ Noa Coward

This is how I hope it goes. Would love for the Bulls to have those 3 on the board.

If you get KJ you can let Tre go and you can trade Zo or Ayo or POR pick for a later pick to get Beringer as your future C.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1330 » by Almost Retired » Mon May 26, 2025 5:33 pm

My choice at #45 in the 2nd Round if he's still on the board. You can never have enough shooters:

Koby Brea

Similar to Clayton Jr. and Lanier, Koby Brea is an upperclassman who is a real sharpshooter from beyond the arc. On the season, Brea shot 43.5% from three on 5.9 attempts per game and ended up with 214 total attempts. Like the other guys on this list, Brea has excellent shot mechanics that are quick and efficient. Furthermore, Brea can take a variety of different threes and still be a threat. Whether it be a spot-up three or off the dribble, Brea can knock it down. He also has the instincts to be an excellent off-ball mover in order to get free for open shots. He has the mechanics, efficiency, and volume to be considered a top shooter in the class.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1331 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon May 26, 2025 5:38 pm

I've been waiting to see if the list updates but so far the Bulls have reportedly have worked out 3 players.

Mark Sears, PG, Alabama
CJ Huntley, PF, Appalachian State
Miles Kelly, SG, Auburn

https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/

All would be UDFA candidates
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1332 » by Repeat 3-peat » Mon May 26, 2025 7:53 pm

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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1333 » by rosenthall » Mon May 26, 2025 9:17 pm

I think there will probably be other people I'd prefer at 12, but I'll be happy if we end up taking CMB. He's got a weird game, but it produces all sorts of juicy signals that point to being highly productive.

The defensive FG%
The impact metrics
55% FTR
5.6 stocks per 100 possessions

It's really hard to game those numbers. His floor seems like a Morris twin level player, and upside maybe a Julius Randle / Zach Randolph mold if he's able to break through.

His shot looks like it'll have a Josh Giddey like trajectory, where it'll start from a really low base and will take his rookie contract to develop into something consistent.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1334 » by BullsSD » Mon May 26, 2025 9:40 pm

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It's really hard to game those numbers. His floor seems like a Morris twin level player, and upside maybe in a Julius Randle / Zach Randolph mode if he's able to break through.



Oof, CMB upside Julius Randle or Z Bo? That's awfully generous. I think those upside comps more closely describe Queen. IMO, CMB's absolute maximum offensive ceiling is Draymond Green-- an occasional 3, mainly a passer, finish around rim type player.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1335 » by nomorezorro » Mon May 26, 2025 10:10 pm

cmb as a sophomore scored 17 ppg while making 62% of his 2pt attempts. draymond in his junior and senior years scored 15 ppg while making 46% of his 2pt attempts.

draymond is also a much better passer, cmb much better at getting to the line, draymond was a much stronger 3pt shooter in college and it was a much bigger part of his game...really not much in common between the two offensively
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1336 » by Jcool0 » Mon May 26, 2025 10:25 pm

nomorezorro wrote:cmb as a sophomore scored 17 ppg while making 62% of his 2pt attempts. draymond in his junior and senior years scored 15 ppg while making 46% of his 2pt attempts.

draymond is also a much better passer, cmb much better at getting to the line, draymond was a much stronger 3pt shooter in college and it was a much bigger part of his game...really not much in common between the two offensively


You dont have to put up the exact same stats to be compared to someone.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1337 » by nomorezorro » Mon May 26, 2025 10:33 pm

you should ideally be similarly skilled at even one trait.

the most cmb and draymond have in common offensively is, like, "doesn't project as first option" [but one is clearly much better than the other as a scorer, and one is clearly much better than the other as a passer] and "questionable outside shot" [but the degree to which their shots are questionable is completely different, as is their 3pt shooting volume]
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1338 » by DuckIII » Mon May 26, 2025 11:09 pm

I think it’s a good comp in the generalities though. CMB is an undersized 5/4, who is nonetheless an elite defensive prospect, who can handle, pass and score at the rim, but with a poor outside shot.

If you are going to make a comp, which is full of problems almost always but we do it anyway, to describe him to someone who had not seen him I think Draymond would be my first choice.
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1339 » by nomorezorro » Mon May 26, 2025 11:34 pm

yeah i agree that draymond is a logical big-picture comp as shorthand, but if you're going to focus on offense specifically, i don't think it makes any sense to object to someone comparing his game to randle (who imo is very similar to him stylistically on that end, particularly as a prospect) and say he's more draymond instead

to me, you're missing an important part of cmb's appeal if you don't emphasize how strong he was as a scorer, even if it's not clear that ability will translate to the next level
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Re: 2025 Draft prospects - thread 2 

Post#1340 » by drosestruts » Mon May 26, 2025 11:36 pm

Chi town wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/draft/mock-drafts-big-boards/2025-nba-mock-draft-two-round-projections-with-less-than-one-month-remaining


Interesting, not the biggest CMB fan, I would like Condon as a 2nd round pick - he plays with good energy, and seems to have decent mobility for his size.

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