2025 Draft Thread

[bucksfansince88]

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

The big Aussie looks like a stud! I want Rocco if we’re going after a Big

[M-C-G]

Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?

I’m dialed into a PF/C that is really dynamic defensively. So far Tuggler and Trevon Brazille are of interest and should be available

Brazile has an intriguing combination of size, bounce and floor spacing ability.

Has good length and great bounce, allowing him to play way above the rim.

Is a high level 3pt shooter who projects well to the NBA level with his floor spacing ability.

Isn’t the most creative with the ball in his hands and plays more of a floor-spacing big man game, not a wing

Tugler is a big, burly, strong power forward who impacts both ends of the floor. He’s a junkyard dog type of player who does all the dirty work and has a big impact on the game, even if he’s not scoring the ball.

He’s a very active defender who can guard in space, hold his own in the post and protect the rim. He’s a bit undersized in terms of height but has a lot of strength and a massive 7-4 wingspan. He also gets off the floor well and can shut down the rim.

His activity shows up on offense with his high work rate, setting screens, diving to the rim and crashing the offensive glass. He has good touch around the rim and flashes some face-up ability.

Tugler runs the floor really well and is an overall mobile, active and impactful player who should start getting more draft attention

So are you telling me 11 minutes of my research have been for nothing! Any other guys in that ballpark?

[Frank Nova]

Who is on some people’s short lists for 47? So far I like Nembhard and Niederhauser. Who else should I pay some attention to?

I’m dialed into a PF/C that is really dynamic defensively. So far Tuggler and Trevon Brazille are of interest and should be available

Brazile has an intriguing combination of size, bounce and floor spacing ability.

Has good length and great bounce, allowing him to play way above the rim.

Is a high level 3pt shooter who projects well to the NBA level with his floor spacing ability.

Isn’t the most creative with the ball in his hands and plays more of a floor-spacing big man game, not a wing

Tugler is a big, burly, strong power forward who impacts both ends of the floor. He’s a junkyard dog type of player who does all the dirty work and has a big impact on the game, even if he’s not scoring the ball.

He’s a very active defender who can guard in space, hold his own in the post and protect the rim. He’s a bit undersized in terms of height but has a lot of strength and a massive 7-4 wingspan. He also gets off the floor well and can shut down the rim.

His activity shows up on offense with his high work rate, setting screens, diving to the rim and crashing the offensive glass. He has good touch around the rim and flashes some face-up ability.

Tugler runs the floor really well and is an overall mobile, active and impactful player who should start getting more draft attention

So are you telling me 11 minutes of my research have been for nothing! Any other guys in that ballpark?

Koby Brea is someone worth checking out imo. He’d be a great flier at 47.

[benultimate]

Rocco looked like a future star when he burst on the scene, early mocks had him in the lottery. But hasn't really done much since. He is still only 18 so has time on his side I guess

[drone3]

Any chance of trading Ajax for 1 of Charlotte's 2nds?

[ShootingtheJ]

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

[German Athens]

Anyone have strong enough feelings on a player projected in the mid-lottery where they’d give up the ‘31st and ‘26 swap?

Or a player in the mid-twenties where they’d give up the ‘26 swap?

[jakecronus8]

Anyone have strong enough feelings on a player projected in the mid-lottery where they’d give up the ‘31st and ‘26 swap?

Or a player in the mid-twenties where they’d give up the ‘26 swap?

I’d trade Green for Coward if they’re bringing back KPJ, Rollins and Trent.

[Bernman]

You'd have no way of knowing that at the draft. Green also brings defense Trent doesn't. Can play up to 3. A win now team giving up a proven solid rotation guy on a cheap contract ATM for a mid lotto pick in this draft would be foolish. 3 to later lotto is a bad spot value-wise.

[BigO]

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

[ShootingtheJ]

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

There's a difference between the drop, and the deep drop.

Kalkbrenner has been around forever, and has never been more than good. He wasn't dominant as a super senior. Not much of a prospect. Weak with slow reactions. Pretty similar to the guy we had on a 2 way for too long last year.

[emunney]

Anyone have strong enough feelings on a player projected in the mid-lottery where they’d give up the ‘31st and ‘26 swap?

Or a player in the mid-twenties where they’d give up the ‘26 swap?

One guy who's grown on me a ton is Liam McNeeley. Love his fit for us as a guy who can play fast in the halfcourt and has real potential as an initiator and knock down shooter. Not a vertical guy but quick feet and high level processing. I think he's a better prospect than Herro was, better size and much better defensively.

[emunney]

If the Bucks can get hold of Ryan Kalbrenner, I think they have to do it. Kind of a Lopez clone, but he's a better rebounder. Good interior defender and his outside shot is a work in progress. Not a great passer. He will have the same problem as Lopez in that he can't switch or play out on the perimeter.

He'd be limited in the playoffs. He's a guy who can chew up minutes in the regular season and be situationally effective in the playoffs, depending on the opponent. What else can you expct from a second rounder? And don't say Jokic.

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

FWIW, if you're willing to look for games a bit, it's not hard to find a lot of full games that weren't broadcast in your area. It's not accurate to say they're not available and to therefore assume that people are basing their opinions on highlight packages. If there's somebody you'd like to check out, I'd be happy to dig around for you.

[ShootingtheJ]

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

FWIW, if you're willing to look for games a bit, it's not hard to find a lot of full games that weren't broadcast in your area. It's not accurate to say they're not available and to therefore assume that people are basing their opinions on highlight packages. If there's somebody you'd like to check out, I'd be happy to dig around for you.

Thanks for mentioning this, because I didn't want Big O super mad when I suggest we draft Neoklis Avdalas.

[worthlessBucks]

Probably not a super uncommon opinion given how poor their team did, but I’m not the biggest fan of the Rutgers kids. Maybe it’s because I watched Harper’s brother for so long there and I just get flashbacks to know what type of player this new Harper is too. It’s been said, but yeah pretty impressive to have two top 3 picks and be such a bad team. They cost me a few nights gambling too, ha.

So in some universe where Giannis is actually traded to SA for #2, #14, Baylor kid, salary filler, and then the future Hawks picks (my preferred wishful deal atm), I would trade down. Obviously the data that has been discussed for decades here is that the top 5 is where you need to be, but I prefer some other dudes a little lower (Fears, Queen, and a few others). Pick up something else on the drop and scratch the lottery tickets.

I need to go play a 2K dynasty mode now. Fantasy GM, the draw that brought many here once upon a time.

[BigO]

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

FWIW, if you're willing to look for games a bit, it's not hard to find a lot of full games that weren't broadcast in your area. It's not accurate to say they're not available and to therefore assume that people are basing their opinions on highlight packages. If there's somebody you'd like to check out, I'd be happy to dig around for you.

I'm sure you're right.

Serious question. In your opinion, how many posters on this board that say they like a guy who is playing overseas or playing for a low level college team, has googled and watched entire games of that player?

I've seen a few full games posted on here, but overwhelmingly it's a 2 minute highlight reel.

[BigO]

Have the whole team learn the deep drop defense just so Kalkbrenner can be the 3rd string center? Nah, draft players with eventual playoff potential.

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

There's a difference between the drop, and the deep drop.

Kalkbrenner has been around forever, and has never been more than good. He wasn't dominant as a super senior. Not much of a prospect. Weak with slow reactions. Pretty similar to the guy we had on a 2 way for too long last year.

Agree to disagree.I think he sticks on a team and has a decent NBA career.

[ShootingtheJ]

Every team plays the drop defense, so ya, learning the drop defense is important. Have you watched Indiana? That's almost all Turner plays.

The problem for a team is that you can't be rigid and need to have the ability to play everything.

In the mid second round, getting a high caliber drop defender, a decent inside scorer, a good rim protector and an eventual posibility of guy who can spread the floor, would be a great get.

I get a kick out of all the suggestions for draft picks, most of whom I never heard of because they play overseas or were rarely on tv. So the only way posters could have watched them would be googling them and seeing highlights.

I can't comment on any of these guys, but I have watched a ton of Kalkbrennner and he's a good player and would be a good get as a mid second round pick. Could there be better players available? Sure, but that's who I've seen, not just watched highlights of.

There's a difference between the drop, and the deep drop.

Kalkbrenner has been around forever, and has never been more than good. He wasn't dominant as a super senior. Not much of a prospect. Weak with slow reactions. Pretty similar to the guy we had on a 2 way for too long last year.

Agree to disagree.I think he sticks on a team and has a decent NBA career.

I actually agree that he sticks around, maybe until he's 30. However, I'll also predict he'll never impact a single playoff series.

We're changing the way we play. Now is the time to stop surrounding Giannis with slowness.

[BigO]

There's a difference between the drop, and the deep drop.

Kalkbrenner has been around forever, and has never been more than good. He wasn't dominant as a super senior. Not much of a prospect. Weak with slow reactions. Pretty similar to the guy we had on a 2 way for too long last year.

Agree to disagree.I think he sticks on a team and has a decent NBA career.

I actually agree that he sticks around, maybe until he's 30. However, I'll also predict he'll never impact a single playoff series.

We're changing the way we play. Now is the time to stop surrounding Giannis with slowness.

Solving the "slowness" problem is what got us Kuzma.

The idea that all of a sudden the NBA has changed is a figment of the imagination. Last year Boston had the best record and won and the year before it was Denver. Neither team was athletic.

I 'll take skilled players like a healthy Middleton and even guys like Green over less skilled athletes.

Besides Kuzma, drafting for athleticism has brought us AJJ and A J Johnson (who may or may not pan out). Both are very athletic, but both lack basketball skills.

[ShootingtheJ]

Agree to disagree.I think he sticks on a team and has a decent NBA career.

I actually agree that he sticks around, maybe until he's 30. However, I'll also predict he'll never impact a single playoff series.

We're changing the way we play. Now is the time to stop surrounding Giannis with slowness.

Solving the "slowness" problem is what got us Kuzma.

The idea that all of a sudden the NBA has changed is a figment of the imagination. Last year Boston had the best record and won and the year before it was Denver. Neither team was athletic.

I 'll take skilled players like a healthy Middleton and even guys like Green over less skilled athletes.

Besides Kuzma, drafting for athleticism has brought us AJJ and A J Johnson (who may or may not pan out). Both are very athletic, but both lack basketball skills.

I'm not suggesting drafting bad players. I am suggesting the team picks a play style, and that play style allows for more versatility than being stuck with deep drop centers.

Seeing our defense dominate with the Knicks 4th string center made it kind of obviouswhat type of center we should team Giannis with. .