PG: Saved By The KAT

[mpharris36]

Pacers were 1 for 10 when Mitch was guarding them
Pacers were 6 for 16 when KAt was guarding them
Pacers were 5 for 12 when Mikal was guarding them

Pacers were 5 for 11 when OG and Hart were guarding them

much better defensive effort especially from our bigs.

I also thought Shamet/Wright/McBride contributed on that end as well even though the DFG% against number don't match it.

Also, I think a small thing that probably happened is that chasing Mikal around in the first half sapped Haliburton later in the game. He can't hide anywhere when we got the double bigs on the floor, eventually the dam will break and Mikal will get going against him too.

The length bothers them a bit.

Read on Twitter

and then just playing Wright and Shamet a handful of minutes where they come out and defend and give our starters a rest allows them to have more energy later in games.

Our best defensive possession came late in the 4th qtr...look at the awareness and the extra effort so late in the 4th. This doesn't happen with guys tired.

[Riot Randolph]

Brunsons minutes are catching up to him …I don’t think it’s matchup …his handles are getting super loose

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Pacers were 1 for 10 when Mitch was guarding them
Pacers were 6 for 16 when KAt was guarding them
Pacers were 5 for 12 when Mikal was guarding them

Pacers were 5 for 11 when OG and Hart were guarding them

much better defensive effort especially from our bigs.

I also thought Shamet/Wright/McBride contributed on that end as well even though the DFG% against number don't match it.

Also, I think a small thing that probably happened is that chasing Mikal around in the first half sapped Haliburton later in the game. He can't hide anywhere when we got the double bigs on the floor, eventually the dam will break and Mikal will get going against him too.

The length bothers them a bit.

Read on Twitter

and then just playing Wright and Shamet a handful of minutes where they come out and defend and give our starters a rest allows them to have more energy later in games.

Our best defensive possession came late in the 4th qtr...look at the awareness and the extra effort so late in the 4th. This doesn't happen with guys tired.

Deuce on that play

[whocares1]

Pacers were 1 for 10 when Mitch was guarding them
Pacers were 6 for 16 when KAt was guarding them
Pacers were 5 for 12 when Mikal was guarding them

Pacers were 5 for 11 when OG and Hart were guarding them

much better defensive effort especially from our bigs.

I also thought Shamet/Wright/McBride contributed on that end as well even though the DFG% against number don't match it.

Also, I think a small thing that probably happened is that chasing Mikal around in the first half sapped Haliburton later in the game. He can't hide anywhere when we got the double bigs on the floor, eventually the dam will break and Mikal will get going against him too.

The length bothers them a bit.

Read on Twitter

and then just playing Wright and Shamet a handful of minutes where they come out and defend and give our starters a rest allows them to have more energy later in games.

Our best defensive possession came late in the 4th qtr...look at the awareness and the extra effort so late in the 4th. This doesn't happen with guys tired.

It does when your season is on the line tho.

[Clyde_Style]

He’s ok for bench minutes but he’s not a starter. His defense is sometimes good sometimes bad. The bad defense is what got him in foul trouble when he was just hacking. His scoring is very inconsistent and more suitable for a bench role than someone that you want to depend on in the starting lineup. Hes not a better scorer than Hart. No the game didn’t turnaround because of those guys, it turned around because of KAT carrying the whole team on his back. Plus Hart was part of that lineup so I’m not sure why you are giving them all the credit as if he wasn’t out there, hustling and playing defense. He even closed the game out and made huge plays which secured the win. He did more than those guys to help us win.

Not sure about everything else but the game was 63-78 and Deuce went on a 7-0 run to close the gap. He was instrumental in the comeback.

The comeback at the end of the 2nd quarter when it looked like they were about to blow us out the gym was just as if not even more important because it looked like they were gaining all momentum and were about to run us out the gym. It was OG and Hart who were making plays to cut the lead down from 19 to 13 going into halftime. That run was just as important to keep us within reach even after Pacers went on another run in the 3rd. Deuce still finished the game on an inefficient 2-6 fg and 1-4 shooting from 3. There were plenty of guys who contributed and Deuce wasn’t doing anything special.

Deuce had no impact on our winning the game. That's the hill you've chosen to die on.

Seems you're the only person here that thinks this so maybe we're all bonkers and you're one who is right

[Besart19]

Leave Kat at Center and bring Robinson off the bench like we been doing all year. Kat is destroying the Pacers, maybe if Thibs didn't bench him in game 2 we could have won. 26pt&11rbs a game, feed the man.

There’s just no chance Thibs is gonna change the lineup again after a win

Also — unrelated — but at one point he had Mikal bring the ball up multiple possessions in a row and the whole purpose was to get JB going so he can put on his cape

I love JB but this shows that Thibs doesn’t understand that we played great when JB exited in G1 and then again last night

Still I blame Thibs mostly — I think JB is maybe out of gas

its his ankle... he rolled 5 time in game 5 vs Boston

[Capn'O]

Thibs has more wins here than Rat

Thibs coached an extra season and has 3 more wins. I hate Pat the rat but he was a great coach for us. 68% win percentage is the best in franchise history

Thibs on his own end has done a great job overall. Still remains to be seen if he is the guy that can get us over the hump

The sole purpose of my post is disrespect to Riley.

[robillionaire]

Thibs has more wins here than Rat

Thibs coached an extra season and has 3 more wins. I hate Pat the rat but he was a great coach for us. 68% win percentage is the best in franchise history

Thibs on his own end has done a great job overall. Still remains to be seen if he is the guy that can get us over the hump

The sole purpose of my post is disrespect to Riley.

He’s a great coach but he came to a team that already had Patrick Ewing Charles Oakley John Starks Anthony Mason mark jackson Greg Anthony X man and several others. Thibs inherited a garbage dump. To hold that against Thibs because he had an extra season is some nasty work

[HEZI]

Not sure about everything else but the game was 63-78 and Deuce went on a 7-0 run to close the gap. He was instrumental in the comeback.

The comeback at the end of the 2nd quarter when it looked like they were about to blow us out the gym was just as if not even more important because it looked like they were gaining all momentum and were about to run us out the gym. It was OG and Hart who were making plays to cut the lead down from 19 to 13 going into halftime. That run was just as important to keep us within reach even after Pacers went on another run in the 3rd. Deuce still finished the game on an inefficient 2-6 fg and 1-4 shooting from 3. There were plenty of guys who contributed and Deuce wasn’t doing anything special.

We were down 15 when Deuce came in the game for OG in the 3rd with 4:26, we were down 4 when he was subbed out. He was 2-3 in the 3rd with 7 points, and kept McConnell in check.

I'm not sure why you're tying to downplay his impact, his run in the 3rd was pivotal, he led the team in scoring for that quarter in just 4 mins.

I’m not downplaying his impact, what’s being downplayed is Josh Harts impact. Hart was huge in the 4th quarter and helped KAT bring us back. Offensive rebound off of Deuce miss and then assist to KAT for 3. Steal and then assist to KAT for the layup. Monster defensive rebound in the last 20 seconds and 4 huge clutch free throws to put it away. Hart had huge impact in the 4th quarter, way more than Deuce so to ignore that and sweep it under the rug and act like Deuce was the one who did it is crazy

[HEZI]

Not sure about everything else but the game was 63-78 and Deuce went on a 7-0 run to close the gap. He was instrumental in the comeback.

The comeback at the end of the 2nd quarter when it looked like they were about to blow us out the gym was just as if not even more important because it looked like they were gaining all momentum and were about to run us out the gym. It was OG and Hart who were making plays to cut the lead down from 19 to 13 going into halftime. That run was just as important to keep us within reach even after Pacers went on another run in the 3rd. Deuce still finished the game on an inefficient 2-6 fg and 1-4 shooting from 3. There were plenty of guys who contributed and Deuce wasn’t doing anything special.

Deuce had no impact on our winning the game. That's the hill you've chosen to die on.

Seems you're the only person here that thinks this so maybe we're all bonkers and you're one who is right

No that’s just your version of it because you think Deuce, Shamet and Wright did more to help us win than Josh Hart and I simply disagree

[god shammgod]

Pacers were 1 for 10 when Mitch was guarding them
Pacers were 6 for 16 when KAt was guarding them
Pacers were 5 for 12 when Mikal was guarding them

Pacers were 5 for 11 when OG and Hart were guarding them

much better defensive effort especially from our bigs.

I also thought Shamet/Wright/McBride contributed on that end as well even though the DFG% against number don't match it.

hi haters

[Clyde_Style]

The comeback at the end of the 2nd quarter when it looked like they were about to blow us out the gym was just as if not even more important because it looked like they were gaining all momentum and were about to run us out the gym. It was OG and Hart who were making plays to cut the lead down from 19 to 13 going into halftime. That run was just as important to keep us within reach even after Pacers went on another run in the 3rd. Deuce still finished the game on an inefficient 2-6 fg and 1-4 shooting from 3. There were plenty of guys who contributed and Deuce wasn’t doing anything special.

Deuce had no impact on our winning the game. That's the hill you've chosen to die on.

Seems you're the only person here that thinks this so maybe we're all bonkers and you're one who is right

No that’s just your version of it because you think Deuce, Shamet and Wright did more to help us win than Josh Hart and I simply disagree

You completely skipped over my initial statements about Deuce's effectiveness on offensive due to scoring from the FT line. And then you made it about not crediting KAT when nobody did that. Now you're using Josh Hart to discredit other player's contributions while NONE OF US are using other players to discredit their contributions. It's OK, I'm done with this convo. You just ignore what people say and move the goalposts every time.

[K_ick_God]

Pacers were 1 for 10 when Mitch was guarding them
Pacers were 6 for 16 when KAt was guarding them
Pacers were 5 for 12 when Mikal was guarding them

Pacers were 5 for 11 when OG and Hart were guarding them

much better defensive effort especially from our bigs.

I also thought Shamet/Wright/McBride contributed on that end as well even though the DFG% against number don't match it.

hi haters

Impressive stuff. Glad I like Mitch.

I like Mitch
I like Mitch
I like Mitch

[Clyde_Style]

Thibs coached an extra season and has 3 more wins. I hate Pat the rat but he was a great coach for us. 68% win percentage is the best in franchise history

Thibs on his own end has done a great job overall. Still remains to be seen if he is the guy that can get us over the hump

The sole purpose of my post is disrespect to Riley.

He’s a great coach but he came to a team that already had Patrick Ewing Charles Oakley John Starks Anthony Mason mark jackson Greg Anthony X man and several others. Thibs inherited a garbage dump. To hold that against Thibs because he had an extra season is some nasty work

Thibs has done well with what he has for the most part and he deserves credit. He is definitely a Top 10 Knicks coach which is not an insult.

How many wins a coach has is not what I look at, but what they do with what they had/have and how they did it elsewhere.

The Knicks have a pretty large number of HOF coaches because several made short pitstops with us like Larry Brown (who was at his worst here), Don Nelson (very brief), Lenny Wilkens, Pitino and Red of course.

Hubie was a really good coach, probably the best defensive coach in his day. I consider him better than Thibs. His downfall coincided with Bernard getting injured and there wasn't much he could do about losing the best pure scorer in Knicks history.

And Pitino did a lot with a little and it produced some exciting games during that era despite their record. The bomb squad with the full court presses was pretty insane at times.

Thibs would have to make the finals to ever be considered for the HOF, but there's so many good coaches who never made it in that I don't think he will be a candidate.

[Capn'O]

Thibs coached an extra season and has 3 more wins. I hate Pat the rat but he was a great coach for us. 68% win percentage is the best in franchise history

Thibs on his own end has done a great job overall. Still remains to be seen if he is the guy that can get us over the hump

The sole purpose of my post is disrespect to Riley.

He’s a great coach but he came to a team that already had Patrick Ewing Charles Oakley John Starks Anthony Mason mark jackson Greg Anthony X man and several others. Thibs inherited a garbage dump. To hold that against Thibs because he had an extra season is some nasty work

I think I need to break this down even further.

**** Pat Riley.

[Chanel Bomber]

Also, I think a small thing that probably happened is that chasing Mikal around in the first half sapped Haliburton later in the game. He can't hide anywhere when we got the double bigs on the floor, eventually the dam will break and Mikal will get going against him too.

The length bothers them a bit.

Read on Twitter

and then just playing Wright and Shamet a handful of minutes where they come out and defend and give our starters a rest allows them to have more energy later in games.

Our best defensive possession came late in the 4th qtr...look at the awareness and the extra effort so late in the 4th. This doesn't happen with guys tired.

Deuce on that play

Deuce has been fantastic.

We're also seeing a lot of offensive improvement, even if the raw numbers don't reflect it. Pull up 3s, rim attacks, a better handle overall... Could be a Christian Braun situation (I initially wrote Carl Braun but that's the Knicks 50s player).

[Chanel Bomber]

Hate him or love him or any feeling in between, Thibs is a Knick legend.

[WaltFrazier]

Just rewatched the second half. Wright was active on D. Hope he plays again. Hart had some huge rebounds in the 4th and played good D. We missed some chances to have a bigger cushion but they missed shots too. Having more good defenders on the court helped us.

All the made free throws in the 4th were huge. We'd have won game 1 just by making more than 3/6 late

[HEZI]

Deuce had no impact on our winning the game. That's the hill you've chosen to die on.

Seems you're the only person here that thinks this so maybe we're all bonkers and you're one who is right

No that’s just your version of it because you think Deuce, Shamet and Wright did more to help us win than Josh Hart and I simply disagree

You completely skipped over my initial statements about Deuce's effectiveness on offensive due to scoring from the FT line. And then you made it about not crediting KAT when nobody did that. Now you're using Josh Hart to discredit other player's contributions while NONE OF US are using other players to discredit their contributions. It's OK, I'm done with this convo. You just ignore what people say and move the goalposts every time.

You said start Deuce over Hart and I said I didn’t see the point because Deuce isn’t doing anything better. You then tried to credit our comeback to Deuce, Shamet and Wright and acted like they did more than Hart to help us win. Again I disagreed and gave my reasons why. Now you are mad because you made a silly claim

[robillionaire]

The sole purpose of my post is disrespect to Riley.

He’s a great coach but he came to a team that already had Patrick Ewing Charles Oakley John Starks Anthony Mason mark jackson Greg Anthony X man and several others. Thibs inherited a garbage dump. To hold that against Thibs because he had an extra season is some nasty work

I think I need to break this down even further.

**** Pat Riley.

Tread lightly.

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