Mattatron wrote:Of course P is the better player offensively right now. But now you comparing P in an Offensive system surrounded with shooters who space the floor + Haliburton + Carlisle as one of the best coaches in the league with Scottie's efficiency surrounded with non shooters, non stars, Dicks and non vets and a clown of a coach. C'mon, don't compare, look at the differences. + Barnes is in Year 4. While Siakam is already in his what ? 9th season ? With lots of experience ? Dude couldn't shoot to save his life in his 3rd year. Chill.
No, this doesn't work because Pascal was better as a Raptor as well, and not just in the season of the trade. Also, Pascal shot 36.9% from 3 in his 3rd season, and 78.5% from the line. That was the year he won MIP. He was All-NBA 2nd Team the year after. Definitely, we pushed him on shooting volume and asked him to iso too much in subsequent years, during which the system/playmaking/spacing hurt. And such things also affect Scottie. But no, Pascal had a specific set of skills and sets he could use to be effect which Scottie doesn't generally exhibit (and didn't, even at lower volume, and still isn't shooting at the SAME volume as Pascal). So ultimately, it just isn't an effective counterpoint. Pascal's definitely not a tier-1 offensive player, for sure. He needs transition, he needs cuts, he needs a guy who can set him up. He's also a very, very good post scorer, and he does pretty well on the couple isos he runs per game. This is not so much true of Scottie.
What we can look forward to is Scottie getting off live-dribble sets some this year, and hopefully increasing his transition proportion, maybe moving around a little bit more. We know shooting from any real kind of range isn't his thing. The 3ball, especially ATB, is not his friend. But while he's brutal relative to league average from the corners, he's generally rocked around 36% from the corners, so that's an avenue to explore.
Mikistan wrote:Just no context, as if any of you were a finished product at 23 years old.
And again, this isn't really an effective counterpoint. He'll likely get a little better, but we know most of what we need to know about him already, I suspect. But that's okay, because what we need to know is that he's a pretty good player who has a good all-around game with which to contribute. He just isn't a guy you want as a focal volume scorer. That's fine, he can emphasize defense and rebounding, and a little secondary playmaking. And I'm hopeful that he's about to have his best year with us because he doesn't need to be a focal scorer. We've got Quick and RJ and BI, and between them, we shouldn't need to ram scoring possessions in to Scottie. That alone should make life easier for him, let alone having that spacing. And if Gradey/Battle/etc improve at all, we'll be in good shape overall.
