2025 Fantasy Trade Thread

[zaz102]

Not satire. I feel quite certain Ace is a bust. Therefore taking him is equivalent to having lost the pick to OKC.

The advantage of the 3 pick is having another premium asset with which to build out the team.

I agree building around Jo is a fools errand. They need to start adding for the future.

That's fair. I like Ace because he can shoot 3s and rebound, has all the tools to be an elite player, and should get decent amount of playing time on this team to learn while being the youngest of guys I'm interested in. Also, all of the available players have question marks.

However, he has some glaring weaknesses too and can understand why you and Morey would pick another player. Since I'm not a scout nor do I have insight to the character of these players, I'll choose to trust the process with whomever they choose.

And that is a logical and rational opinion, neither of which do I usually have

I do wonder how much Nurse is going to play the rookie, no matter who it is.

That is a great question which also brings up a question in my mind... Is Morey (and Nurse) really going to draft a rookie with the intention of playing/developing them? Even though it's what I want seems hard to believe, unless of course they have no choice due to injuries, hold outs, or just having no other good options at the position (like Maxey, McCain, Edwards and Bona).

[the_process]

This is a stupid idea, but maybe if I throw trading Embiid into the universe Daryl will get the hint:

Embiid and 3 for Missi, Jones, McCollum, and 7

[76ciology]

[the_process]

19 instead of 26 and the Nets take Gordon instead of Drummond and fine.

[the_process]

Oubre, Council, Gordon, Drummond and 3 for Jones, Hawkins, and 7.

[youngcrev]

With Dallas having Flagg, AD and Lively... PJ Washington and Gafford could be good targets in a Oubre/Drummond/asset swap.

[PhillyFan11]

Sixers out: #3, #35, Oubre, Gordon, Drummond, Council
Sixers in: #6, PJ Washington, Kyshawn George, Olivier-Maxence Prosper

Wizards out: #6, #18, Kyshawn George
Wizards in: #3, #35, Drummond, Council

Mavs out: PJ Washington and Prosper
Mavs in: #18, Oubre, Gordon

[mjkvol]

I'm not trading out of #3 for anything but a lower lottery pick plus other pick(s).

And #35 is practically a late 1st in a deep draft. I want to keep that one to use or to pair with other possibly acquired picks to move up if Morey has a player targeted. Those four expirings could be very valuable come deadline time.

[Foshan]

So, let’s say I have my head in the sand… what are Ace’s glaring weaknesses?

[phifans]

Trade #3+#35 for #5+#21 with Utah or trade #3+#35 for #6+#18 with Washington if you are not comfortable with Ace Bailey at 3

[76ciology]

So, let’s say I have my head in the sand… what are Ace’s glaring weaknesses?

The two things Morey looks for:
- efficient scoring
- generating extra possessions

https://www.25hourideas.com/blog/lessons-learned-from-daryl-morey

Morey mentions strategies he’s looked into in order to win more games. On offense, these revolve around the two ways to improve, taking more efficient shots, or taking extra shots. To take extra shots, you need to be getting offensive rebounds or generating possessions through steals.

He also has low feel given his ast%, imagine a good defense closing out on him and he’s just gonna take that shot because he does not know how to find and get the ball to open teammates.

[M2J]

So, let’s say I have my head in the sand… what are Ace’s glaring weaknesses?

The two things Morey looks for:
- efficient scoring
- generating extra possessions

https://www.25hourideas.com/blog/lessons-learned-from-daryl-morey

Morey mentions strategies he’s looked into in order to win more games. On offense, these revolve around the two ways to improve, taking more efficient shots, or taking extra shots. To take extra shots, you need to be getting offensive rebounds or generating possessions through steals.

He also has low feel given his ast%, imagine a good defense closing out on him and he’s just gonna take that shot because he does not know how to find and get the ball to open teammates.

Great! Averaged more than 2 ORB per game ..a steal and a block.

Even on a bad team overall with mid major talent.. he was their spacer, hit 46% overall, mostly on contested shots. 44% on 66 contested 3s during the year, 46% from mid range, 61% at the rim. Had some inefficiency at the line though improved over the year massively, but isn't overall inefficient. The idea that he can swing the ball after close out is a big assumption, but what's not is his ability to attack a close out and at least efficiently get a mid range look.... The shot that stars can make

[M2J]

If Danny Ainge comes calling offering 5 and 21 for #3. Because he's not doing it for the chance to get Quentin Grimes (VJ) or Cam Thomas (Tre).... Hang up and draft Ace before you get Tatum'd again

[76ciology]

53% TS%
30% 3PTr
24% FTr
69% FT%
108 ORtg (Dylan Harper is at 118, so its not the team)
3.7 OBPM
8% ast% vs 11% TO%

Numbers are very Andrew Wiggins but less rim & FT frequency.

[76ciology]

Nets
3rd Overall Pick
Jared McCain
35th pick
Kelly Oubre
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
- got them a point guard
- they want the 3rd overall pick

Jared McCain
Cam Thomas
Ace Bailey
Noah Clowney
Nic Claxton

Sixers
8th Overall pick (Khaman Maluach)
Cam Johnson
19th Overall pick (Rasheer Flemming)

Tyrese Maxey
Quentin Grimes/Justin Edwards
Paul George/Rasheer Flemming
Cam Johnson/Yabusele
Joel Embiid/Khaman Maluah

Biggest team in the league?

[mjkvol]

Nets
3rd Overall Pick
35th pick
Jared McCain
Paul George
Kelly Oubre
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon


Sixers
Cam Johnson
8th Overall pick (Kon/Kasparis/Maluach)
19th Overall pick (Clifford/Coward/Bryant/Flemming)

This is the only way I would consider this deal, and draft whoever is Morey's top guy at each spot. If we're giving up #3 and McCain, they would need to pay for it by taking George. Otherwise, it's an overpay.

The Oubre, Drummond, and Gordon expirings may be very valuable come deadline time.

[youngcrev]

Nets
3rd Overall Pick
Jared McCain
35th pick
Kelly Oubre
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
- got them a point guard
- they want the 3rd overall pick

Jared McCain
Cam Thomas
Ace Bailey
Noah Clowney
Nic Claxton

Sixers
8th Overall pick (Khaman Maluach)
Cam Johnson
19th Overall pick (Rasheer Flemming)

Tyrese Maxey
Quentin Grimes/Justin Edwards
Paul George/Rasheer Flemming
Cam Johnson/Yabusele
Joel Embiid/Khaman Maluah

Biggest team in the league?

Feels like an insanely high valuation of Cam Johnson (who I like) to me.

To me this is a lot closer in value if you remove either McCain or #3 along with #19 on the Nets end.

[PhillyNj]

Nets
3rd Overall Pick
Jared McCain
35th pick
Kelly Oubre
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
- got them a point guard
- they want the 3rd overall pick

Jared McCain
Cam Thomas
Ace Bailey
Noah Clowney
Nic Claxton

Sixers
8th Overall pick (Khaman Maluach)
Cam Johnson
19th Overall pick (Rasheer Flemming)

Tyrese Maxey
Quentin Grimes/Justin Edwards
Paul George/Rasheer Flemming
Cam Johnson/Yabusele
Joel Embiid/Khaman Maluah

Biggest team in the league?

Feels like an insanely high valuation of Cam Johnson (who I like) to me.

To me this is a lot closer in value if you remove either McCain or #3 along with #19 on the Nets end.

Way too much to give up for Johnson. Who I am not a fan of at all! The guy hasn’t helped his team win anythin.

[the_process]

Nets
3rd Overall Pick
Jared McCain
35th pick
Kelly Oubre
Andre Drummond
Eric Gordon
- got them a point guard
- they want the 3rd overall pick

Jared McCain
Cam Thomas
Ace Bailey
Noah Clowney
Nic Claxton

Sixers
8th Overall pick (Khaman Maluach)
Cam Johnson
19th Overall pick (Rasheer Flemming)

Tyrese Maxey
Quentin Grimes/Justin Edwards
Paul George/Rasheer Flemming
Cam Johnson/Yabusele
Joel Embiid/Khaman Maluah

Biggest team in the league?

I think 3 and the 3' expiring contracts for CamJ, 8, and 19 is sufficient.

If they want McCain too... need to start talking about eating George and giving the '28 pick back, maybe another future pick as well.

[the_process]

If Danny Ainge comes calling offering 5 and 21 for #3. Because he's not doing it for the chance to get Quentin Grimes (VJ) or Cam Thomas (Tre).... Hang up and draft Ace before you get Tatum'd again

Make Ainge throw in a Lauri for PG swap.