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Imo if we take in Holiday, BOS needs to send some form of draft compensation back. Holiday has always one of my favorite players and I've always tried to get him here for years but at this point of his career, that contract is one of the worst in the league. Especially in this CBA.
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arkuo wrote:Stein's reporting that Mavs will at least call Boston for Jrue Holiday. And if that fizzle's out, they'll try Lonzo or CP3.
If it's for Jrue, safe to say that Gaff may be headed out along with other guys to match salaries. Basically you're paying Holiday over $30M to be your primary POA defender all the way to the playoffs.
Would Dallas be ok with sending Klay and Gaff to Boston for Jrue?
My guess, it would be Gafford + Naji + Hardy + Omax. It matches Jrue's contract to the dollar. With Boston being a second apron team, they cannot combine players.
Two things, one being if Gafford gets sent to Boston, there will be no way they trade him to help the Lakers. And two, if Boston agrees to that package, you let Dumont worry about paying Jrue and run out of the room.
Does Boston have the roster space to accept a 4 for 1 swap?
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Teffer10 wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:But why do we have to complicate our lives so much?
Trade AD and not resign Kyrie. Half of our problems will go away.
I think 99.9% of Mavs personnel and fans would be happy with this strategy considering the good fortune we received on May 12th.
Unfortunately Nico falls in the .1 % group.
I like to see this team attempt to win. Doubt that puts me into the 0.1%.
But this actually pisses me off a bit. Ky gets hurt and by all accounts he is fighting back ahead of schedule. The actual recommendation here is to not resign him now, because "Half of our problems will go away". Didn't see the same posts with Luka repeatedly getting hurt. Maybe you guys are not so far off Nico as you like to think.
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Jrue looked washed already and has insane contract at 34yo.
Mavs would need to send out players close to 32M in salaries since Celtics are above 2nd apron. Which also means Mavs would make Celtics a lot stronger. Why would they want to do that? Celtics will also have to get rid of KP.
Best option would be CP3 on vet min and no players lost. He can still playmake until Kyrie comes back. No need to reinvent hot water here.
Mavs would need to send out players close to 32M in salaries since Celtics are above 2nd apron. Which also means Mavs would make Celtics a lot stronger. Why would they want to do that? Celtics will also have to get rid of KP.
Best option would be CP3 on vet min and no players lost. He can still playmake until Kyrie comes back. No need to reinvent hot water here.
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Yeah the more I think of it, the more I dislike the idea of Jrue. CP3 is 40 but useable. Lonzo had a knee transplant which is a first for an NBA player so I don't know if that holds up.
But you still have to find a trade for Gaff rather than letting him walk for nothing in return.
But you still have to find a trade for Gaff rather than letting him walk for nothing in return.
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Captain_Obvious wrote:Teffer10 wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:But why do we have to complicate our lives so much?
Trade AD and not resign Kyrie. Half of our problems will go away.
I think 99.9% of Mavs personnel and fans would be happy with this strategy considering the good fortune we received on May 12th.
Unfortunately Nico falls in the .1 % group.
I like to see this team attempt to win. Doubt that puts me into the 0.1%.
But this actually pisses me off a bit. Ky gets hurt and by all accounts he is fighting back ahead of schedule. The actual recommendation here is to not resign him now, because "Half of our problems will go away". Didn't see the same posts with Luka repeatedly getting hurt. Maybe you guys are not so far off Nico as you like to think.
I dont mind winning as long as Nico doesnt sabotage our future in the process.
I think most of us know we have a better chance of winning a championship 5 years from now by building around CF and DL using assets we could yield from moving some of our old and nearly washed up assets than we do relying on AD to play 50 games next season and Kyrie coming back to full strength in a timely manner.
We can be optimistic, but why waste the first few years of Cooper's career and then start over from scratch when he is 22 or 23 when we have some tradeable assets that can get that process started now.
It's obvious Nico will half ass this thing and squander the few assets we could possibly have to get some players in here now to develop with Flagg, Lively and Christie. I think 99.9% of us dont trust Nico to refrain from giving up some of our young players and the few picks we have over the 5 years to chase a championship with Kyrie and AD.
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Slightly Biased on Locked On Mavs suggested
PJ + Knecht to Cavs
Jarret Allen to Lakers
Reaves to Dallas
I'd even give LAL their pick back, but I like this framework, Reaves is the only player I'd move PJ for.
PJ + Knecht to Cavs
Jarret Allen to Lakers
Reaves to Dallas
I'd even give LAL their pick back, but I like this framework, Reaves is the only player I'd move PJ for.
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Expiring Reaves is not worth more than PJ factoring in his contract status imho. And I guess if he leaves LA, he'll be looking for a huge salary raise.
Framework makes sense for all parties involved: PJ fits better than Allen next to Mobley and JA is the rim runner Luka needs.
Framework makes sense for all parties involved: PJ fits better than Allen next to Mobley and JA is the rim runner Luka needs.
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Reaves is worth more than PJ, lead on ball guards are expensive, it's not unprotected future 1st, but Mavs don't have near term assets, maybe we can add salary dumps to the deal...
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Mavrelous wrote:Reaves is worth more than PJ, lead on ball guards are expensive, it's not unprotected future 1st, but Mavs don't have near term assets, maybe we can add salary dumps to the deal...
Reaves is basically a rental, imho there is no chance he extends if he leaves LA and that tanks his value a lot in my book.
Also, would Reaves be ok coming off the bench once Kai comes back?
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Mavrelous wrote:Slightly Biased on Locked On Mavs suggested
PJ + Knecht to Cavs
Jarret Allen to Lakers
Reaves to Dallas
I'd even give LAL their pick back, but I like this framework, Reaves is the only player I'd move PJ for.
This is a solid trade proposal.
I'm very pro-PJ so I'm not sure I'm on board since I think his impact is getting underrated. I do really like this trade if we let go of Kyrie and go into a rebuilding route though. Love Kyrie but I'm very worried about the defensive fit with him and Reaves together. At least with Luka, he was big and you could hide him on a lot of bigger wings or non-scoring PFs. It would definitely be a problem in the playoffs.
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Mavrelous wrote:Slightly Biased on Locked On Mavs suggested
PJ + Knecht to Cavs
Jarret Allen to Lakers
Reaves to Dallas
I'd even give LAL their pick back, but I like this framework, Reaves is the only player I'd move PJ for.
I like it. Just find a new home for Gafford after this. Maybe a forward that comes off the bench for AD and Flagg.
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Captain_Obvious wrote:Teffer10 wrote:41Dirk41 wrote:But why do we have to complicate our lives so much?
Trade AD and not resign Kyrie. Half of our problems will go away.
I think 99.9% of Mavs personnel and fans would be happy with this strategy considering the good fortune we received on May 12th.
Unfortunately Nico falls in the .1 % group.
I like to see this team attempt to win. Doubt that puts me into the 0.1%.
But this actually pisses me off a bit. Ky gets hurt and by all accounts he is fighting back ahead of schedule. The actual recommendation here is to not resign him now, because "Half of our problems will go away". Didn't see the same posts with Luka repeatedly getting hurt. Maybe you guys are not so far off Nico as you like to think.
You might even be right if it weren't for the fact that Kyrie is 8 years older than Luka, suffered a much more serious injury and is half the player that Luka is... So, you are dead wrong.
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Maverick41 wrote:Mavrelous wrote:Slightly Biased on Locked On Mavs suggested
PJ + Knecht to Cavs
Jarret Allen to Lakers
Reaves to Dallas
I'd even give LAL their pick back, but I like this framework, Reaves is the only player I'd move PJ for.
This is a solid trade proposal.
I'm very pro-PJ so I'm not sure I'm on board since I think his impact is getting underrated. I do really like this trade if we let go of Kyrie and go into a rebuilding route though. Love Kyrie but I'm very worried about the defensive fit with him and Reaves together. At least with Luka, he was big and you could hide him on a lot of bigger wings or non-scoring PFs. It would definitely be a problem in the playoffs.
He is getting underrated, I see him a lot being thrown in Holiday trades which doesn't make sense.
He's the perfect modern 4, does the dirty work, defend, rebound, rim protect and score when the attention is on the star player.
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ACMFFL wrote:Mavrelous wrote:Reaves is worth more than PJ, lead on ball guards are expensive, it's not unprotected future 1st, but Mavs don't have near term assets, maybe we can add salary dumps to the deal...
Reaves is basically a rental, imho there is no chance he extends if he leaves LA and that tanks his value a lot in my book.
Also, would Reaves be ok coming off the bench once Kai comes back?
PJ is also expiring
I don't pay much attention to being expiring at these level.of players, they are too good to be MLE level, too bad to be max guys, hard to see a strong bidder.
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Mavrelous wrote:PJ is also expiring
I don't pay much attention to being expiring at these level.of players, they are too good to be MLE level, too bad to be max guys, hard to see a strong bidder.
Yep PJ as well but I can see PJ extending at 4/90M. On the other hand Reaves is a lock to hit FA, he'll probably end up being overpaid on the open market, and I don't want to allocate 30/35M per year on someone who looks like a terrible fit next to Kyrie.
Caleb/Hardy/OMax/2 2nds for Lonzo, sign CP3 or Tyus to the TPMLE, and call it a day.
If we want a scoring guard, I'd rather go after the cheaper Sexton (for Gaff/Hardy/OMax) than giving up PJ+ for Reaves. The most I'd trade for Reaves is Gafford + 2029 LAL 1st, and even then I still have to think about it cause if Luka leaves LA that pick is definitely a lottery ticket.
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ACMFFL wrote:Mavrelous wrote:PJ is also expiring
I don't pay much attention to being expiring at these level.of players, they are too good to be MLE level, too bad to be max guys, hard to see a strong bidder.
Yep PJ as well but I can see PJ extending at 4/90M. On the other hand Reaves is a lock to hit FA, he'll probably end up being overpaid on the open market, and I don't want to allocate 30/35M per year on someone who looks like a terrible fit next to Kyrie.
Caleb/Hardy/OMax/2 2nds for Lonzo, sign CP3 or Tyus to the TPMLE, and call it a day.
If we want a scoring guard, I'd rather go after the cheaper Sexton (for Gaff/Hardy/OMax) than giving up PJ+ for Reaves. The most I'd trade for Reaves is Gafford + 2029 LAL 1st, and even then I still have to think about it cause if Luka leaves LA that pick is definitely a lottery ticket.
Don't see CHI doing that.
I think Mavs should go all in for a guard, too much clutter on roster, and they have 2 starting level PFs.
If PJ takes the extension then keep him, no hesitation, if he wants to hit FA, explore trades.
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Mavrelous wrote:ACMFFL wrote:Mavrelous wrote:PJ is also expiring
I don't pay much attention to being expiring at these level.of players, they are too good to be MLE level, too bad to be max guys, hard to see a strong bidder.
Yep PJ as well but I can see PJ extending at 4/90M. On the other hand Reaves is a lock to hit FA, he'll probably end up being overpaid on the open market, and I don't want to allocate 30/35M per year on someone who looks like a terrible fit next to Kyrie.
Caleb/Hardy/OMax/2 2nds for Lonzo, sign CP3 or Tyus to the TPMLE, and call it a day.
If we want a scoring guard, I'd rather go after the cheaper Sexton (for Gaff/Hardy/OMax) than giving up PJ+ for Reaves. The most I'd trade for Reaves is Gafford + 2029 LAL 1st, and even then I still have to think about it cause if Luka leaves LA that pick is definitely a lottery ticket.
Don't see CHI doing that.
I think Mavs should go all in for a guard, too much clutter on roster, and they have 2 starting level PFs.
If PJ takes the extension then keep him, no hesitation, if he wants to hit FA, explore trades.
Marshall/Hardy/Omax for Lonzo/2 2nds works better for CHI?
Totally agree with you on PJ.
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This one is closer.
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Boston is done, they are in even worse situation than us before the lottery.
They have to pay to unload Jrue massive contract right now,.
They have to pay to unload Jrue massive contract right now,.