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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#281 » by Onus » Mon May 26, 2025 5:57 pm

whatisacenter wrote:Older 2nd round picks have a better chance of playing under Kerr. More experience and are just happy to be in the league.

Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#282 » by wco81 » Mon May 26, 2025 5:59 pm

Bill Simmons and Ryan Rusillo did a re-draft of 2020.

Had the Warriors draft Hali at #2.

IIRC, Bane and McDaniels jumped from the end of the draft to the top 5.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#283 » by whatisacenter » Mon May 26, 2025 11:43 pm

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whatisacenter wrote:Older 2nd round picks have a better chance of playing under Kerr. More experience and are just happy to be in the league.

Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.


That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#284 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 2:00 am

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whatisacenter wrote:Older 2nd round picks have a better chance of playing under Kerr. More experience and are just happy to be in the league.

Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.


That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#285 » by azwfan » Tue May 27, 2025 5:30 am

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whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.


That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.

I recall an interview with Bob while he was GM and the question was something along the lines of fans thinking the GM job was drafting and trading and he said something to the effect of, “thats more like the assistant GM’s job”.

Also, my guess is that MDJ handled the draft since at least the PBJ draft only because thats the first time MDJ handled the draftees introductory press conference. (If memory serves correctly).
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#286 » by whatisacenter » Tue May 27, 2025 5:48 am

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whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.


That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.


He was the lead scout in the Poole draft and his responsibilities and his voice in the room has only grown since then.

Dunleavy attended Villanova games and practices to watch Eric Paschall. He went to the Big Ten tournament and got an up-close look at three Jordan Poole games. His advice and intel were used on both picks. The Warriors took Poole 28th and Paschall 41st in the 2019 draft.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#287 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 11:46 am

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whatisacenter wrote:
That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.


He was the lead scout in the Poole draft and his responsibilities and his voice in the room has only grown since then.

Dunleavy attended Villanova games and practices to watch Eric Paschall. He went to the Big Ten tournament and got an up-close look at three Jordan Poole games. His advice and intel were used on both picks. The Warriors took Poole 28th and Paschall 41st in the 2019 draft.

Yes the head gm is not going to go scouting prospects attending games but he sets the philosophy and what were looking for. Do you not notice the difference in the philosophical change in the drafts we’ve had since Bob quit?

I mean mdj isn’t the main scout anymore, are we going to give the recognition to who mdj drafted to who ever is the main scout now? Kirk lacob?
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#288 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 1:49 pm

Damn Milos Uzan going back to school. Must not have been doing well in the workouts.

Think I'm really hoping for Byrd or Powell unless Yaxel drops.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#289 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 3:30 pm

Damn yaxel is going to Michigan. NIL is crazy
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#290 » by TB » Tue May 27, 2025 5:00 pm

I have a feeling the talent pool at 41 is going to be bleak.

And if that is the case, i’m fine just taking a home run swing with Rocco or Yang…. that being said they are probably going to be gone by then as well...
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#291 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 5:30 pm

TB wrote:I have a feeling the talent pool at 41 is going to be bleak.

And if that is the case, i’m fine just taking a home run swing with Rocco or Yang…. that being said they are probably going to be gone by then as well...

Yea I feel Like Rocco and Yang both go before 41.

2nd rd picks and late 1sts should be devalued moving forward.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#292 » by wco81 » Tue May 27, 2025 6:33 pm

Do we have 2nd round picks in the 2025-26 draft?

That's suppose to be as strong, maybe stronger than this upcoming draft.

So these players dropping out of this draft, may be available in the second round in 2025-26.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#293 » by vvoland » Tue May 27, 2025 8:08 pm

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Onus wrote:anyone else still like condon after measuring undersized for a center? Feel like his mobility for a near 7' is great and he's still going to be great on defense even if he's a bit undersized length wise. I think he can be in the tier below all nba defender with just his ability to cover so much ground. He's like temu version of the unicorn 7' rim protector that can shoot. Shooting is pretty good as a catch and shoot but terrible outside of being able to set his feet. Just a bit undersized but covers a ton of ground on defense. Sets good screens and can keep an offense moving. Feel like his hype has died down since the legit sized centers took over the combine but I would take Condon over Raynaud.


I still like Condon, but my biggest concerns are:

- His strength more-so than length. He’s pretty lightweight even for a PF.

- I don’t believe in his shooting. He’s had two years of bad FT and 3-point percentages.

Yea I agree he’s more of a pf than center which really forces him to become a better shooter. If definitely less high on him and would probably take one of the guards before him.


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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#294 » by vvoland » Tue May 27, 2025 8:09 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:Like podz who was 20 and had essentially 1 year of college experience.

Idk why it’s hard for fans to admit Bob was a terrible drafter.


That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.



I think it was consensus but the organizational philosophy changed around the time bob left. Honestly, if I had to, I would guess JK and Wiseman were Joe's (or the lacob clan) picks, not Bob's or MDJ's.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#295 » by whatisacenter » Tue May 27, 2025 8:21 pm

vvoland wrote:
Onus wrote:
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That's one young player and he plays too much.

Also, I didn't mention Bob but since you did I am curious how you think draft was handled while he was GM? Pretty sure MDJ was heading it up since the Poole draft and that it has always been a consensus decision.

They say it was consensus but as soon as he left the type of prospects we draft have been completely different.



I think it was consensus but the organizational philosophy changed around the time bob left. Honestly, if I had to, I would guess JK and Wiseman were Joe's (or the lacob clan) picks, not Bob's or MDJ's.



It’s kind of hard to compare two lottery picks where you’re drafting for BPA to Podz, a non-lottery pick, and post/TJD two late second round picks.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#296 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 8:24 pm

whatisacenter wrote:It’s kind of hard to compare two lottery picks where you’re drafting for BPA to Podz, a non-lottery pick, and post/TJD two late second round picks.

Compare Nico Mannion and PBJ.
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Post#297 » by whatisacenter » Tue May 27, 2025 8:26 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:It’s kind of hard to compare two lottery picks where you’re drafting for BPA to Podz, a non-lottery pick, and post/TJD two late second round picks.

Compare Nico Mannion and PBJ.


If you squint Nico equals podz
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Post#298 » by vvoland » Tue May 27, 2025 8:32 pm

Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:It’s kind of hard to compare two lottery picks where you’re drafting for BPA to Podz, a non-lottery pick, and post/TJD two late second round picks.

Compare Nico Mannion and PBJ.


They both suck?
Both were highly touted HS recruits that struggled in college?
One was picked late 1st and the other went in the last 2nd?
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Post#299 » by HiRez » Tue May 27, 2025 8:38 pm

TB wrote:I have a feeling the talent pool at 41 is going to be bleak.

Sort of by definition. Even if you have keen draft insights, picking there is a crapshoot at best. MDJ has done well with lower picks so far, but there's only so much you can expect. I mean, sure, I could find a big diamond or a box of Spanish gold coins digging around my back yard, it's possible, but I wouldn't expect to. Even if I'm Indiana Jones, that doesn't change my chances.
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Re: 2024-25 NBA Draft Talk 

Post#300 » by Onus » Tue May 27, 2025 9:15 pm

whatisacenter wrote:
Onus wrote:
whatisacenter wrote:It’s kind of hard to compare two lottery picks where you’re drafting for BPA to Podz, a non-lottery pick, and post/TJD two late second round picks.

Compare Nico Mannion and PBJ.


If you squint Nico equals podz

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