2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[Chi town]

We're making a huge mistake passing up on JASE RICHARDSON only IF he's available when the time has come for us to choose.

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

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The NIL has its positives and negatives, for the NBA, it weakened the post lottery part of the draft. Imo it makes late (protected) first round picks, and 2nd rounders less valued as trade assets.

[The Box Office]

We're making a huge mistake passing up on JASE RICHARDSON only IF he's available when the time has come for us to choose.

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

Lifting weights solves that problem of "struggling with playoff intensity and physical play." No one complained about young Scottie Pippen's wiry frame, Kobe's skinny body when he entered the league, and Wemby going number one.

[The Box Office]

We're making a huge mistake passing up on JASE RICHARDSON only IF he's available when the time has come for us to choose.

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

And with that said, here is my updated draft rankings:

5 - Colin Murray Boyles
4 - Noa Essengue
3 - VJ Edgecombe
2 - Jase Richardson
1 - Cooper Flagg

Outside Top 5:

Thomas Sorber

Sorber fell out of my Top 5 because of Noa Essengue and Colin Murray Boyles. For the Cowards, he plays no defense. He's all offense. No thanks.
For the Queens, he's an interesting prospect, but that's all he is right now.

[Red Larrivee]

He limits your build if he can’t play the 5. You have to have a 3pt shooting 5.

In this NBA you can’t have more than one non shooter on the floor in the playoffs.

He's a prototypical PF. There are a number of 4s throughout the league who either aren't strong shooters from 3, aren't high volume or had to develop that area of their game. In the meantime, he provides significant impact on the side of the floor the Bulls are lacking in. The Bulls lack two-way bigs and CMB would go a long way towards improving that, even with a poor jumper.

[2weekswithpay]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jase becomes a productive NBA player. His metrics are amazing for someone as young as he is, but his size and role complicate things.

Jase is a 6'1 SG. At that size, you aren't bringing that much value to the team defensively. The offense is fine for a SG, but most teams will have to get another guard because Jase didn't run the offense at Michigan State. Small back courts haven't had a ton of success in recent years. A lot of issues pop up because Jase is small.

[drosestruts]

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

Lifting weights solves that problem of "struggling with playoff intensity and physical play." No one complained about young Scottie Pippen's wiry frame, Kobe's skinny body when he entered the league, and Wemby going number one.

Richardson's playmaking is well below recent small guards like Brunson and Reed Sheppard.

Richardson does have the best wingspan of the group, best FT% and FTA Rate, ORTG, DRTG, and BPM

The only box Jase doesn't check is height.

So many prospects "ifs" are about their shooting or defense or ability to accept certain roles.

Jase is a winning player who does everything well, and yeah he's kind of short.

Richardson had 5 dunks on the year, we get by alright with a guard in Coby white that had 8.

[sco]

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

Lifting weights solves that problem of "struggling with playoff intensity and physical play." No one complained about young Scottie Pippen's wiry frame, Kobe's skinny body when he entered the league, and Wemby going number one.

Richardson's playmaking is well below recent small guards like Brunson and Reed Sheppard.

Richardson does have the best wingspan of the group, best FT% and FTA Rate, ORTG, DRTG, and BPM

The only box Jase doesn't check is height.

So many prospects "ifs" are about their shooting or defense or ability to accept certain roles.

Jase is a winning player who does everything well, and yeah he's kind of short.

Richardson had 5 dunks on the year, we get by alright with a guard in Coby white that had 8.

If somebody told me that if we got Jase, we would then turn around and trade Coby for 2 firsts, I'd be on board.

[Chi town]

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

Lifting weights solves that problem of "struggling with playoff intensity and physical play." No one complained about young Scottie Pippen's wiry frame, Kobe's skinny body when he entered the league, and Wemby going number one.

Uh… Pippen was an elite competitor with a much larger body and strength.

Same for Kobe.

Jase isn’t 6’7 and he’s a below the rim player.

[Chi town]

I wouldn't be surprised if Jase becomes a productive NBA player. His metrics are amazing for someone as young as he is, but his size and role complicate things.

Jase is a 6'1 SG. At that size, you aren't bringing that much value to the team defensively. The offense is fine for a SG, but most teams will have to get another guard because Jase didn't run the offense at Michigan State. Small back courts haven't had a ton of success in recent years. A lot of issues pop up because Jase is small.

Well said.

I like Jase too.

Think he’s nothing more than a 6th man that gets picked on in PNR.

[Chi town]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

[Bulldog23]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

Bulls have very little length on this team on the front line. Matas and Pat don't have length. Draft better Bulls

[Chi town]

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KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

Bulls have very little length on this team on the front line. Matas and Pat don't have length. Draft better Bulls

Exactly why I want Noa. Crazy length combined with Buz would create so many turnovers and easy buckets.

[nomorezorro]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

carter bryant you are a chicago bull

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

carter bryant you are a chicago bull

I’d almost prefer Demin. At least then I’d feel something.

[Indomitable]

Jase Richardson does everything well and has some of the better advanced metrics in all of college basketball.

People overlook him because he's short.

Same reason they overlooked Jalen Brunson.

Brunson is built like a fire hydrant and plays a could drawing game that is very physical.

Jase is pure finesse and I think he would really struggle with playoff intensity and physical play.

Lifting weights solves that problem of "struggling with playoff intensity and physical play." No one complained about young Scottie Pippen's wiry frame, Kobe's skinny body when he entered the league, and Wemby going number one.

You just choose two of the most physically gifted players I ever seen.

Pippen was 6'8 with a 7'4 wing span
Wemby is 7'4 with almost an 8 ft wingspan

Kobe was not on their level but he was 6'5 and 200 pounds coming out at 18.

Jase is 6'0. Flat short arms and is a decent athlete.

He is not physically special.

[boozapalooza]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

I for one am glad to hear we are picking a direction on what this team should look like. Trying to follow the Pacers build is the way to go. Up tempo, athletic two way role players, led by a PG with size who can facilitate. No one can say the Pacers are built around a superstar, but rather 8-10 solid guys who play the right way and everyone can shoot it.

Now, no one on our roster is currently as good as Hali/Siakam/Turner, but its not a huge stretch to see Giddey/Coby/Matas developing into guys who can contribute at that level.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, and I’m not suggesitng back to back ECFs is on the horizon, but I don’t see why this path is unattainable with our current pieces as the starting point.

[Chi town]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

I for one am glad to hear we are picking a direction on what this team should look like. Trying to follow the Pacers build is the way to go. Up tempo, athletic two way role players, led by a PG with size who can facilitate. No one can say the Pacers are built around a superstar, but rather 8-10 solid guys who play the right way and everyone can shoot it.

Now, no one on our roster is currently as good as Hali/Siakam/Turner, but its not a huge stretch to see Giddey/Coby/Matas developing into guys who can contribute at that level.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, and I’m not suggesitng back to back ECFs is on the horizon, but I don’t see why this path is unattainable with our current pieces as the starting point.

Pacers are now asset poor and capped out due to Siakam trade. I don’t see much more of a ceiling for their players either. Mathurin and Walker haven’t done much of anything.

If AK makes solid moves we should be a good team as soon as 27 season. I firmly believe he will rush it and make an all in trade this deadline.

[boozapalooza]

KC saying Bulls want a player that fits their new pace style with two way players. They are following Pacers build and saying the will pick BPA even if it’s a guard.

I sure hope this is the case.

Noa is my pick and he def fits pace and defense.

CMB fits with an improved shot but not as well as he doesn’t fly up and down the court.

Coward and KJ play with high motors.

Demin fits the IQ passing and push pace pass ahead I guess.

Feels like Queen, Sorber don’t fit this.

https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2025/05/27/bulls-style-play-draft/

I for one am glad to hear we are picking a direction on what this team should look like. Trying to follow the Pacers build is the way to go. Up tempo, athletic two way role players, led by a PG with size who can facilitate. No one can say the Pacers are built around a superstar, but rather 8-10 solid guys who play the right way and everyone can shoot it.

Now, no one on our roster is currently as good as Hali/Siakam/Turner, but its not a huge stretch to see Giddey/Coby/Matas developing into guys who can contribute at that level.

Maybe I’m overly optimistic, and I’m not suggesitng back to back ECFs is on the horizon, but I don’t see why this path is unattainable with our current pieces as the starting point.

Pacers are now asset poor and capped out due to Siakam trade. I don’t see much more of a ceiling for their players either. Mathurin and Walker haven’t done much of anything.

If AK makes solid moves we should be a good team as soon as 27 season. I firmly believe he will rush it and make an all in trade this deadline.

Sorry, but I don’t see how a team on the doorstep of heading to the Finals is “asset poor”. The sum of the parts is a damn good team that just knocked out Giannis, the 1 seed, and the Knicks. Thats a high ceiling if you ask me.

Haliburton, Siakam, Turner, Nesmith, Nembhard, Toppin, McConnell, Mathurin…all solid assets in any trade if you ask me