Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[Frank Nova]

See if you can get New Orleans to let go of Dejounte for Kuzma and Pats option.

[ReasonablySober]

See if you can get New Orleans to let go of Dejounte for Kuzma and Pats option.

Trade for a guy who's going to be out most of next season with a torn achilles and owed enough money to ruin the Bucks only hope of cap space in the next few years? Brutal idea.

[th87]

If Giannis is legitimately considering leaving then pitching him on the idea of punting his age 31 season "so he can go after accolades" is some of dumbest planning I can imagine.

What is your alternative?

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

If he wants Doc, then he probably doesn't care that much about winning titles anyway.

[th87]

In the "Are they having too much fun?" category, I was listening to miles and points podcast talking about a pre-launch event at Universal Studios and Brook had a special invite with a bunch of bloggers and influencers. Dude really needs to get focused if he wants another ring.

(It is pretty cool how likeable the 2001 team was with Jrue, Kris, Giannis and BroLo all being extremely boring high-quality guys off the court)

I wish the 2001 team had those guys. Could you imagine what a team with Ray, Sam, Big Dog, Jrue, Khris and Giannis would do?

I might have to play NBA 2K just to make that happen.

Light It Up

[Frank Nova]

See if you can get New Orleans to let go of Dejounte for Kuzma and Pats option.

Trade for a guy who's going to be out most of next season with a torn achilles and owed enough money to ruin the Bucks only hope of cap space in the next few years? Brutal idea.

He runs 1yr longer than Kuzma and should be back around Christmas. His contract coincides with Dame and Giannis. He’s exactly the type of stressed asset that could pay off for a bargain price in a year or so.

[Prez]

If Kuzma actually decides to give a crap in the offseason and come into the season prepared to play basketball I think there's a world where as a 20-22 mpg backup PF to Giannis who is only played alongside Giannis in Giannis at the 5 lineups, he could potentially be okay. But **** for brains on the sidelines is probably going to continue starting him at the 3 next to Giannis.

[ReasonablySober]

See if you can get New Orleans to let go of Dejounte for Kuzma and Pats option.

Trade for a guy who's going to be out most of next season with a torn achilles and owed enough money to ruin the Bucks only hope of cap space in the next few years? Brutal idea.

He runs 1yr longer than Kuzma and should be back around Christmas. His contract coincides with Dame and Giannis. He’s exactly the type of stressed asset that could pay off for a bargain price in a year or so.

No it doesn't. His deal runs a year longer if he opts in, something he's absolutely going to do.

[Prez]

What is your alternative?

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

If he wants Doc, then he probably doesn't care that much about winning titles anyway.

The really unfortunate reality is that Giannis desperately does care about winning, but he seems to be a moron when it comes to evaluating coaches and doesn't appear to realize that Doc is a cancer.

[th87]

My alternative? I don't have one. I've been hammering home the point that this team is **** for a year now.

But if your stance is that Giannis is better off staying here and that the Bucks are better off with him on the roster, you need to have something better than that.

If they legitimately can't communicate a path to him other than "give us a year"... That's pathetic and he should leave. How much more explicit can you be that you do not value his remaining time and that you're not serious?

If he wants Doc, then he probably doesn't care that much about winning titles anyway.

The really unfortunate reality is that Giannis desperately does care about winning, but he seems to be a moron when it comes to evaluating coaches and doesn't appear to realize that Doc is a cancer.

I think he absolutely cares about winning during a game and will give 200% to do so.

However, I'm not sure how ruthless he is outside of the game. Whereas Jordan would probably sell his family to win titles, Giannis values his relationships more.

So his desire is more of an energy + effort with the pieces we have thing, rather than a strategy thing.

[Frank Nova]

Trade for a guy who's going to be out most of next season with a torn achilles and owed enough money to ruin the Bucks only hope of cap space in the next few years? Brutal idea.

He runs 1yr longer than Kuzma and should be back around Christmas. His contract coincides with Dame and Giannis. He’s exactly the type of stressed asset that could pay off for a bargain price in a year or so.

No it doesn't. His deal runs a year longer if he opts in, something he's absolutely going to do.

Well if we’re predicting the future then I would just say Murray’s contract comes off the books the year Giannis’s extension kicks in and 1yr after Dame expires as well so I’m not sure how that ruins the Bucks only hope for cap space in the coming years? Not sure how else you expect to find a talent like Murray by trading Pat’s 10m expiring and 1 of the worst players in the league locked in for 2 more years…. I’m not crazy about the idea but I like it better than trading for Holiday and I’m not opposed to that 1 either.

[BigO]

If Kuzma actually decides to give a crap in the offseason and come into the season prepared to play basketball I think there's a world where as a 20-22 mpg backup PF to Giannis who is only played alongside Giannis in Giannis at the 5 lineups, he could potentially be okay. But **** for brains on the sidelines is probably going to continue starting him at the 3 next to Giannis.

After 9 seasons, I don't think Kuzma is going to surprise us. He has been remarkably consistent and not in a good way.

Now, if you had a coach who told him only to take certain shots and concentrate solely on defense and rebounding, I'd give him 10 minutes a game for a month to see if his ego will adjust.

But with Doc, there is no hope. I think Doc pushed for Kuzma. He's going to play him.

[JonHeist]

AJ Green, Bobby Portis and an unprotected, probably post Giannis, first to get Collin Sexton and a different flavor Bobby Portis would be wild.

Jon Horst - Challenge accepted

horst has never made a trade anywhere near that bad

inb4 complaining about:

trading donte (who we couldn't afford to extend) or the 5 2nds for crowder (3 were to get off of bad contracts)

[blazza18]

Off the top of my head was the PJ Tucker trade where we moved back a few spots (late first to early second) while also dumping DJ Augustin's contract the best bit of GM'ing Horst has done?

I don't think Horst panics and makes that specific trade Baddy mentioned but Horst doesn't exactly have a history of being a good negotiator.

[CharityStripe34]

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Good ol' days

[emunney]

AJ Green, Bobby Portis and an unprotected, probably post Giannis, first to get Collin Sexton and a different flavor Bobby Portis would be wild.

Jon Horst - Challenge accepted

horst has never made a trade anywhere near that bad

inb4 complaining about:

trading donte (who we couldn't afford to extend) or the 5 2nds for crowder (3 were to get off of bad contracts)

Midds and AJ for Kuzma, but yeah, this one is even worse.

[Matches Malone]

Jon Horst - Challenge accepted

horst has never made a trade anywhere near that bad

inb4 complaining about:

trading donte (who we couldn't afford to extend) or the 5 2nds for crowder (3 were to get off of bad contracts)

Midds and AJ for Kuzma, but yeah, this one is even worse.

Don't forget the 28' 1st round swap in that deal

[InHammndWeTrust]

Would getting CJ McCollum while keeping Dame/Giannis be realistic? Gives us another scorer and Dame-CJ would have the connection already if Dame could make it back end of next season. Middleton gets traded mid season and then bought out
Roll into the playoffs with Dame-CJ-Midds-Giannis-Bobby

[JonHeist]

horst has never made a trade anywhere near that bad

inb4 complaining about:

trading donte (who we couldn't afford to extend) or the 5 2nds for crowder (3 were to get off of bad contracts)

Midds and AJ for Kuzma, but yeah, this one is even worse.

Don't forget the 28' 1st round swap in that deal

A) we'd be SO f*ucked right now if we were in the 2nd apron and still had khris and a hurt dame

B) it's a swap of a swap, 95% chance it never conveys at all, and it it does it'll probably be like switching the 16th pick for the 18th or smth like that

[PG Graveyard]

Midds and AJ for Kuzma, but yeah, this one is even worse.

Don't forget the 28' 1st round swap in that deal

A) we'd be SO f*ucked right now if we were in the 2nd apron and still had khris and a hurt dame

B) it's as swap of a swap, 95% chance it never conveys

Also didn’t we get a 2nd rounder this year in the deal? Plus Sims?

[jschligs]

Would getting CJ McCollum while keeping Dame/Giannis be realistic? Gives us another scorer and Dame-CJ would have the connection already if Dame could make it back end of next season. Middleton gets traded mid season and then bought out
Roll into the playoffs with Dame-CJ-Midds-Giannis-Bobby

Ah yes, let's add two 33 year old players in CJ that can disappear for games at a time and Midds who can't play a full season. Just what we need to beat the athletic Pacers/Cavs/Knicks/Celtics.

The only reason I kinda could see it is because we'd have tons of cap space opened up if we sent Kuz and Pat out for CJ.