Giannis stays in Milwaukee for this?

[ReggiesKnicks]

Trade #1

MIL Out: Kyle Kuzma, Pat Connaughton
POR Out: Jerami Grant

Milwaukee adds a real wing to pair with Giannis. Grant can still play the 3 or 4, allowing Giannis to play the 4 and 5.
Portland saves a ton of money. Form a dynamic wing-duo of Deni/Kuzma, Wizards of the West

Trade #2

MIL Out: Damian Lillard
PHX Out: Bradley Beal (Waives NTC to play with Giannis)

Milwaukee gets a player who can actually play in 2026 with the same contract length as Lillard.
Phoenix does this post-KD trade, assuming they will be saving money there. Lillard's morale boost and hopeful playoff and/or 2026-2027 level of play outweighs Beal's negativity and inconsistency.

[Texas Chuck]

Yes, I think Giannis stays if the Bucks could pull off both. I'm skeptical about the 2nd one being doable though.

[JayMKE]

I don’t think Giannis is begging the team to trade Dame or to go get Beal, if the Bucks wanted Beal then he would already be a Buck. Grants contract is terrible, does not move needle. Don’t think either moves the needle, Giannis stays either way.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I don’t think Giannis is begging the team to trade Dame or to go get Beal, if the Bucks wanted Beal then he would already be a Buck.

What would that deal have happened?

[In-N-Out 247]

I don’t think Giannis is begging the team to trade Dame or to go get Beal, if the Bucks wanted Beal then he would already be a Buck.

What would that deal have happened?

I suspect the biggest holdup in that proposal would be Beal waiving his NTC. Doubt he is willing to move his family from Phoenix to Milwaukee.

Also, not sure why Phoenix would do that trade - money's about the same, but at least Beal can play next year.

[Tim Lehrbach]

My only issue with the first trade is that Grant looked for much of this season like he cannot guard either position consistently anymore, and he's only getting older. His one-time strength may be a liability now. Are we sure Kuzma, who admittedly ain't great, doesn't have more life in his career than Grant?

[JayMKE]

I don’t think Giannis is begging the team to trade Dame or to go get Beal, if the Bucks wanted Beal then he would already be a Buck.

What would that deal have happened?

I suspect the biggest holdup in that proposal would be Beal waiving his NTC. Doubt he is willing to move his family from Phoenix to Milwaukee.

Also, not sure why Phoenix would do that trade - money's about the same, but at least Beal can play next year.

Milwaukee has been on Beal’s list since before he was in Phoenix, Phoenix also wanted to trade Beal last year to go after Jimmy. He’s just too injury prone and overpaid for a guy not much better than replacement player.

[gswhoops]

What would that deal have happened?

I suspect the biggest holdup in that proposal would be Beal waiving his NTC. Doubt he is willing to move his family from Phoenix to Milwaukee.

Also, not sure why Phoenix would do that trade - money's about the same, but at least Beal can play next year.

Milwaukee has been on Beal’s list since before he was in Phoenix, Phoenix also wanted to trade Beal last year to go after Jimmy. He’s just too injury prone and overpaid for a guy not much better than replacement player.

I wonder if anything has happened since the trade deadline, such as a substantial injury to a key player, that might have changed Milwaukee's willingness to roll the dice on Beal.

[In-N-Out 247]

What would that deal have happened?

I suspect the biggest holdup in that proposal would be Beal waiving his NTC. Doubt he is willing to move his family from Phoenix to Milwaukee.

Also, not sure why Phoenix would do that trade - money's about the same, but at least Beal can play next year.

Milwaukee has been on Beal’s list since before he was in Phoenix, Phoenix also wanted to trade Beal last year to go after Jimmy. He’s just too injury prone and overpaid for a guy not much better than replacement player.

Thought I had read an article suggesting that he was not willing to waive his no trade clause for any cold weather cities. Just looked it up and found an article from the Athletic, which was specifically talking about the Bulls:

While Beal is willing to waive his no-trade clause for the right destination, as The Athletic reported last week, he will not waive it just to leave the Suns, who moved him to the bench in early January. Before this season, Beal, his wife and their two sons moved full time to Phoenix. Accepting a trade elsewhere would mean either relocating his kids once again after going from Washington to Phoenix in 2023, or leaving them to play somewhere else for the time being.

There are destinations Beal would consider approving. As The Athletic reported last week, going to a winning team would be his first priority. However, cold-weather cities, including Chicago, are less attractive to him, the source said. If a team has a losing record and a chilly winter, it won’t be on Beal’s list. Of course, this complicates the Suns’ pursuit of Butler.

This is another article from SI talking about the Bucks:

It doesn't sound like Beal wants to go to Milwaukee, and he might not want to go anywhere at all if you believe his agent. He came out on Wednesday and refuted the report that Beal could be interested in Milwaukee.

“Brad’s entire focus has been and is on getting healthy with his ankle and helping turn things around for the Suns,” Bartelstein said.

[ReggiesKnicks]

I suspect the biggest holdup in that proposal would be Beal waiving his NTC. Doubt he is willing to move his family from Phoenix to Milwaukee.

Also, not sure why Phoenix would do that trade - money's about the same, but at least Beal can play next year.

Milwaukee has been on Beal’s list since before he was in Phoenix, Phoenix also wanted to trade Beal last year to go after Jimmy. He’s just too injury prone and overpaid for a guy not much better than replacement player.

Thought I had read an article suggesting that he was not willing to waive his no trade clause for any cold weather cities. Just looked it up and found an article from the Athletic, which was specifically talking about the Bulls:

While Beal is willing to waive his no-trade clause for the right destination, as The Athletic reported last week, he will not waive it just to leave the Suns, who moved him to the bench in early January. Before this season, Beal, his wife and their two sons moved full time to Phoenix. Accepting a trade elsewhere would mean either relocating his kids once again after going from Washington to Phoenix in 2023, or leaving them to play somewhere else for the time being.

There are destinations Beal would consider approving. As The Athletic reported last week, going to a winning team would be his first priority. However, cold-weather cities, including Chicago, are less attractive to him, the source said. If a team has a losing record and a chilly winter, it won’t be on Beal’s list. Of course, this complicates the Suns’ pursuit of Butler.

This is another article from SI talking about the Bucks:

It doesn't sound like Beal wants to go to Milwaukee, and he might not want to go anywhere at all if you believe his agent. He came out on Wednesday and refuted the report that Beal could be interested in Milwaukee.

“Brad’s entire focus has been and is on getting healthy with his ankle and helping turn things around for the Suns,” Bartelstein said.

This is nothing, no offense. The first article comments about his desire to go to a winning team above all else.

The 2nd is what any agent would do when nobody wants a player and a player is on a team. "The player is trying to help the team he is on win" is what every single agent would say, regardless of their true feelings.

[Texas Chuck]

This is nothing, no offense. The first article comments about his desire to go to a winning team above all else.

The 2nd is what any agent would do when nobody wants a player and a player is on a team. "The player is trying to help the team he is on win" is what every single agent would say, regardless of their true feelings.

I think it depends on what this is posted in response to. I think its pretty damn valid in response to jay's belief that if the Bucks wanted him they would already have him(lots of other stuff counter that as well of course).

I don't think it means it rules the Bucks out as a potential destination moving forward. I suspect Phoenix is going to try and make his life there as miserable as possible in an attempt to get him to waive it.

But I think it leads real credence to the Bucks can't have just wishcasted them on their roster like Jay stated.

[In-N-Out 247]

Milwaukee has been on Beal’s list since before he was in Phoenix, Phoenix also wanted to trade Beal last year to go after Jimmy. He’s just too injury prone and overpaid for a guy not much better than replacement player.

Thought I had read an article suggesting that he was not willing to waive his no trade clause for any cold weather cities. Just looked it up and found an article from the Athletic, which was specifically talking about the Bulls:

While Beal is willing to waive his no-trade clause for the right destination, as The Athletic reported last week, he will not waive it just to leave the Suns, who moved him to the bench in early January. Before this season, Beal, his wife and their two sons moved full time to Phoenix. Accepting a trade elsewhere would mean either relocating his kids once again after going from Washington to Phoenix in 2023, or leaving them to play somewhere else for the time being.

There are destinations Beal would consider approving. As The Athletic reported last week, going to a winning team would be his first priority. However, cold-weather cities, including Chicago, are less attractive to him, the source said. If a team has a losing record and a chilly winter, it won’t be on Beal’s list. Of course, this complicates the Suns’ pursuit of Butler.

This is another article from SI talking about the Bucks:

It doesn't sound like Beal wants to go to Milwaukee, and he might not want to go anywhere at all if you believe his agent. He came out on Wednesday and refuted the report that Beal could be interested in Milwaukee.

“Brad’s entire focus has been and is on getting healthy with his ankle and helping turn things around for the Suns,” Bartelstein said.

This is nothing, no offense. The first article comments about his desire to go to a winning team above all else.

The 2nd is what any agent would do when nobody wants a player and a player is on a team. "The player is trying to help the team he is on win" is what every single agent would say, regardless of their true feelings.

Normally I would agree with you that this means nothing and of course you are right about the agent having his back. But in this specific scenario with Beal having a NTC - I see no reason why he would waive that. He's probably living large in some $10M+ mansion in the foothills of Scottsdale enjoying the warm weather sitting by his infinity pool every night enjoying the view.

Edit: How about this one:

https://www.redfin.com/AZ/Scottsdale/11200-E-Canyon-Cross-Way-85255/home/28148323

(TBH - I have no idea where he lives, but I imagine it's something like that house lol)

[In-N-Out 247]

This is nothing, no offense. The first article comments about his desire to go to a winning team above all else.

The 2nd is what any agent would do when nobody wants a player and a player is on a team. "The player is trying to help the team he is on win" is what every single agent would say, regardless of their true feelings.

I think it depends on what this is posted in response to. I think its pretty damn valid in response to jay's belief that if the Bucks wanted him they would already have him(lots of other stuff counter that as well of course).

I don't think it means it rules the Bucks out as a potential destination moving forward. I suspect Phoenix is going to try and make his life there as miserable as possible in an attempt to get him to waive it.

But I think it leads real credence to the Bucks can't have just wishcasted them on their roster like Jay stated.

Yeah that is pretty much my whole point with the idea of just about anybody trading for Beal. He got traded to a pretty good situation (family wise) and it seems he's just content to stay there. So short of the Suns waiving and stretching him, which seems insane, but has been suggested by some on here, I doubt he is going anywhere.

[JonHeist]

are we sure beal's even above replacement level going forward?

only .4 VORP last season....

Dame was good until he was hurt, I'd rather chance it he makes a full recovery

only way you make this is if giannis demands it, and that's completely unrealistic

[jredsaz]

are we sure beal's even above replacement level going forward?

only .4 VORP last season....

Dame was good until he was hurt, I'd rather chance it he makes a full recovery

only way you make this is if giannis demands it, and that's completely unrealistic

18/3/4 on 47%/38%/82% on 60% TS. I’ve completely lost all faith in the guy as a star level player but he was efficient mostly playing out of position on a terribly organized team. I do t think this solves any of the issues Milwaukee save for the fact if his acquisition keeps Giannis around, who I do feel like he would play well off of, is probably worth it. Not sure how it’s worth it for the Suns, however.

[JayMKE]

I don’t think Beal is better than Gary Trent Jr or Kevin Porter Jr at this point, would much rather just retain them

[JonHeist]

are we sure beal's even above replacement level going forward?

only .4 VORP last season....

Dame was good until he was hurt, I'd rather chance it he makes a full recovery

only way you make this is if giannis demands it, and that's completely unrealistic

18/3/4 on 47%/38%/82% on 60% TS. I’ve completely lost all faith in the guy as a star level player but he was efficient mostly playing out of position on a terribly organized team. I do t think this solves any of the issues Milwaukee save for the fact if his acquisition keeps Giannis around, who I do feel like he would play well off of, is probably worth it. Not sure how it’s worth it for the Suns, however.

I don't see either team wanting to do it

there is a 0.000% chance giannis says "I want to leave unless you trade dame for beal"

the suns *should* because dame will almost certainly be more tradable than beal next season (not even accounting for the NTC), but I doubt they would trade for someone who won't play next season

[Texas Chuck]

But there is a chance Giannis would be more likely to stay if the dead weight of Dame was turned into players this year. Of course he's unlikely to demand specifically Bradley Beal...

[JonHeist]

But there is a chance Giannis would be more likely to stay if the dead weight of Dame was turned into players this year. Of course he's unlikely to demand specifically Bradley Beal...

giannis is too nice to request that dame be shipped off to basketball hell because of an injury

he's not going to ask out this summer

[Texas Chuck]

But there is a chance Giannis would be more likely to stay if the dead weight of Dame was turned into players this year. Of course he's unlikely to demand specifically Bradley Beal...

giannis is too nice to request that dame be shipped off to basketball hell because of an injury

he's not going to ask out this summer

Gianni's isn't likely to say that specifically either, but he might say i go mprove the team. Last year sucked. And well there aren't a lot of avenues for them to improve with $50M of dead cap.

Can't wait for how you narrowly define it this time to insist Giannis would never say.....

I hope he doesn't ask out too. But I don't share this unwavering confidence that there is just no chance he does either. Even with my boy Dirk I refused to ever take him for granted.