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PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#241 » by sol537 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:28 am

I don’t have faith in Thibs coaching us to three straight wins as much as I’d like for it to happen. We have to be realistic here.

Wright in the starting lineup with Mitch back to the bench could unlock things however. It sounds far fetched but Wright’s defense and steady play is exactly what the starting lineup needs against Indiana and Haliburton. Exactly.
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Post#242 » by 1993Playoffs » Wed May 28, 2025 3:29 am

Coming back from 3-1 is gonna be tough guys. Dream season may be over :(
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Post#243 » by HerSports85 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:29 am

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Everyone sees this as clear as day. I don't even know how there are Thibs supporters left. They must be watching an entirely different game than the rest of us. He's been pulling this crap his entire career. Every analyst, every coach, every NBA player knows this is who he is and you will never win a chip with this man.


forget a chip.. you won't get to the finals with this man. Barely a conference finals..
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Post#244 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 28, 2025 3:29 am

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mpharris36 wrote:your going to have to start asking a legit question...can you win it all with brunson? KAT's minutes were +3. Bruson is the worst defender and they are just exploiting it.

I absolutely love everything that brunson is about but it seems like its always been the case...small non defensive guards just don't win it all in the NBA. You get too far and teams will just pick on you.


He’s also turning 29 this summer and is starting to put a lot of miles on his body - he has extremely high usage and gets hit/falls a lot

This is why the Bridges trade was so wreckless. You owe unprotected draft assets in 3 straight years in years when Brunson is going to be age 30/31/32 followed by another when he’s age 34.

There was nothing about last years team, including Brunson, that justified going all in on the roster unless you were getting a Giannis/Luka back.


I'm not really worried about the regular season...they will be a consistent 50 win team for the foreseeable future...but they might be capped in the playoffs with how certain guys can be consistently targeted.


That’s probably fair.

The conference is wide open again next year, although I put us at #3 behind Indiana and Cleveland with Detroit/Orlando closing in.

But this team feels like the Dame Blazers
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Post#245 » by god shammgod » Wed May 28, 2025 3:30 am

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Stannis wrote:Last year was a 7 game series with the Pacers

This year might be a fiver.

After all those trades , money, and picks spent.... I would not be totally surprised if Leon Rose is in the hotseat and not just Thibs


Less is more vs the pacers...you best lineups have one scoring threat and multiple defenders out there...that is how you beat them because they will give up good looks...the key is getting stops vs them and then attacking them on offense.


This this and more this!


those lineups mostly are doing well when hali is sitting. the top 6 guys on/off in the playoffs are 5 guys from okc and him.

the knicks don't have anyone in the top 25
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#246 » by offense » Wed May 28, 2025 3:31 am

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Less is more vs the pacers...you best lineups have one scoring threat and multiple defenders out there...that is how you beat them because they will give up good looks...the key is getting stops vs them and then attacking them on offense.


This this and more this!


those lineups mostly are doing well when hali is sitting. the top 6 guys on/off in the playoffs are 5 guys from okc and him.

the knicks don't have anyone in the top 25

brunson and kat are top players in the league.
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Post#247 » by Worst_to_First » Wed May 28, 2025 3:32 am

dakomish23 wrote:You MUST get a 2 way SG & push Hart back to the bench.

But at the same time Thibs love affair with Hart is inexcusable


We could have won this game if some of Josh's and Mikal's minutes went to Landry and Delon.

At the very least, Josh and Mikal would have been a lot fresher in the 4th.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#248 » by god shammgod » Wed May 28, 2025 3:32 am

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This this and more this!


those lineups mostly are doing well when hali is sitting. the top 6 guys on/off in the playoffs are 5 guys from okc and him.

the knicks don't have anyone in the top 25

brunson and kat are top players in the league.


i'm just talking about on/off numbers
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Post#249 » by TKKnicks1 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:32 am

At least the East will be weaker next year. No Tatum. Giannis probably getting moved out west. Orlando is still mid. Heat are a non-factor. It will be us, Cavs and Indy fighting again most likely. Fire Thibs, unload Bridges for something better and we might be right back to ECF again next year.
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Post#250 » by Adelheid » Wed May 28, 2025 3:32 am

g3 could have been a loss if it wasn't for the foul troubles...
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Post#251 » by Galvationknicks » Wed May 28, 2025 3:33 am

I'm gonna be honest with you guys. I've been checked out since game 1. I left to go to work feeling real good at the moment we had gotten up by 14. I waa devastated. Game 2 made it worse. Game 3 didn't even make me that happy bc I know we needed 2 games. I'm hopeful and still rooting.
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Post#252 » by Stannis » Wed May 28, 2025 3:33 am

1993Playoffs wrote:Coming back from 3-1 is gonna be tough guys. Dream season may be over :(


Making it another 7 game series does look more respectable though lol
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#253 » by Capn'O » Wed May 28, 2025 3:34 am

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Less is more vs the pacers...you best lineups have one scoring threat and multiple defenders out there...that is how you beat them because they will give up good looks...the key is getting stops vs them and then attacking them on offense.


This this and more this!


those lineups mostly are doing well when hali is sitting. the top 6 guys on/off in the playoffs are 5 guys from okc and him.

the knicks don't have anyone in the top 25


They were able to bother Hali with length for a few minutes in G3 and then Brunson came back rested and cooked. I don't know why we wouldn't even try it tonight. Or spell Mikal and/or Hart. They couldn't have played worse.
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Post#254 » by Im Coming Home » Wed May 28, 2025 3:35 am

Hey, bad news but Thibs isn't going to get fired after getting us to the ECF. It's just not going to happen.

I want it to happen too, but it won't. He got us too far. He's here to stay for at least another year.
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Post#255 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 3:36 am

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Im Coming Home wrote:You know what the worst part is for me?

Realizing Brunson isn't the seemingly perfect player who would always make the right play and never let us lose big games

He seemed when he first came here he could do no wrong, and I don't mean that in a rose tinted glasses kinda way, I mean it literally, like when he first got here he just always seemed to come up big at the most important times, or if he didn't we always had some way to logically excuse him for it

But now? I really don't know man, he's my favorite Knick of the last 20+ years, he took a huge pay cut, etc but man.. we've routinely **** the bed against teams we could/should beat or there's an opportunity to come up big and we never capitalize on the series.

Started with the Heat series years ago, then last year I know injuries but still we had a shot and blew it, now this year, Pacers are not more talented on paper, they have B level stars, we have 2 A level starts IMO, yet we come up short again.

I'm sad because I had such assurance in my mind that Brunson would lead us to the promise land if we gave him a talented roster around him, but once again he comes up short as the leader and loses to a clown like Haliburton.

It's just disappointing man, I want to believe in him but year after year I'm realizing he is a normal player with flaws and stuff, I thought his life long of growing up with basketball and how level headed he is would assure us he would always come up big and never let stuff like this happen to the team, but he doesn't prevent it, it keeps happening now every year ends up disappointment and feeling like "we should have beaten that team they weren't better than us" it's never "damn that team just was so much better than us that we lost" were losing series we should win.



He needs a coach that will hold him accountable and channel his aggression in scoring into setting up his teammates better.


We might have to get his dad out of the coaching staff.

JB should be relegated to #2 option in the first three quarters with KAT as #1. After winning Game 3, when Thibs said in the interview that he is simply looking at who gets hot when asked about KAT's performance, I knew we were cooked. There are some people in the team that you have to get going first. KAT's scoring takes out the wind of the opponents more. If I were the opposing team, I would be happy seeing JB continuously pound the ball and get his attempts up while the rest of the team remains stagnant and cold.

KAT still makes the right plays even when he has the focal point in offense and make sure his teammates are involved. So I think JB could still end getting his scoring up even with a KAT-centric offense. Then of course, JB has more energy when he activates his god mode in the clutch and becomes the best player in the league.


Yeah you establish KAT early and let JB win it late. Not too complex. Make things easier on KAT with ball movement over dribbling.

Why on Earth is Mikal playing so much? He's basically no better than Delon. But if there's one guy who is always in it's Mikal. Maybe our very worst player! lol

0g also tons of leash and basically can't handle the minutes and looked terrible almost all post-season

Thibs the latest guy to do the exact opposite of what he should. Our worst player is Mikal and he's the guy Thibs never takes out lol

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Post#256 » by Red Vines » Wed May 28, 2025 3:37 am

We need a structured offense that you can't stop by pressuring Brunson.
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Post#257 » by Enzo954 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:37 am

KFTV is ripping Thibs to shreds...lol
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Post#258 » by KnicksGadfly » Wed May 28, 2025 3:38 am

Mikal Bridges is basically playing like Crawford. These long-limbed dudes will show up in the 4th, and we're all like...wtf, you should have just played well from the beginning.
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Post#259 » by Clyde_Style » Wed May 28, 2025 3:38 am

We're losing because

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Post#260 » by 1993Playoffs » Wed May 28, 2025 3:38 am

Stannis wrote:
1993Playoffs wrote:Coming back from 3-1 is gonna be tough guys. Dream season may be over :(


Making it another 7 game series does look more respectable though lol



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