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PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#381 » by Context » Wed May 28, 2025 5:05 am

mpharris36 wrote:the they are better and what can you do crowd. Sure I mean I guess we can go the route...but these playoffs are on the margins. We blew game 1 with awful coaching and players mentally and physically making mistakes down the stretch. All these games have been "winnable" never a game where we are getting completely outplayed.

There is zero creativity. The one time we sort of get creative with the rotations and minutes is because of foul trouble in game 3.

Haliburton was feeling it...not adjustment. No scheme change. Maybe try picking up full court with Wright or McBride then having Mikal and OG in help shooting the gaps...maybe try some different things to get his frustrated. Nope same defensive coverage pretty much all series...allowing them to search out our weakest defenders and pick us apart.

He just doesn't have the capabilities to take us to the next level because he simply knows one thing...play his most trust worthy guys no matter what the situation and matchup is.

I don't think we have ever run a 5-out lineup by putting Deuce with the starters. We should absolutely be trying to match Brunson minutes with McConnel so that we can put Brunson on McConnel and hedge and recover to him because he isn't a shooter. Instead the first 9 minutes or so of every qtr is the same damn ****.

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#382 » by Galvationknicks » Wed May 28, 2025 5:05 am

KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#383 » by knicksfan974 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:06 am

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It is over for this core!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Three games away from the Finals. They are right there. If this team cannot do it this year, you retool, add some proper bench pieces and run it back. No team in the East is unbeatable for this Knicks team.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#384 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:06 am

brunson is working like a madman to bring the ball up...we just let Haliburton stroll up to half court...
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#385 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 28, 2025 5:07 am

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KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#386 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:13 am

If you’re pissed about the Thibs Hart love affair, listen to the first 20 mins of the KFTV post game. JD went in on Hart & Thibs attachment to him
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#387 » by sol537 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:14 am

dakomish23 wrote:If you’re pissed about the Thibs Hart love affair, listen to the first 20 mins of the KFTV post game. JD went in on Hart & Thibs attachment to him


This love affair may be what gets Thibs fired and Hart traded.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#388 » by Appleshampoo » Wed May 28, 2025 5:14 am

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KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:


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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#389 » by prophet_of_rage » Wed May 28, 2025 5:15 am

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robillionaire wrote:Among other issues you can point out, my final analysis is a sad one. I don’t know if Brunson’s horrendous defense can be overcome at this level.

We have a 4 game sample for the ECF now. towns, he’s been a positive +\- in 3 of 4 games and highest plus minus of starters. And is overall positive in the playoffs. The defense has surprisingly been fine with towns and any lineup with him playing without Brunson. Whether it’s with the bench or with other starters

Meanwhile the defense gets smoked any time Brunson is in the game. Doesn’t matter if towns is playing, towns staggered or in foul trouble sitting on the bench with Mitch at center, towns playing the 4 with Mitch at the 5, doesn’t matter, we get demolished. And now he is -26 2nd worst on the team in this series. The pacers have figured him out and are exposing him

I don’t see how a simple coaching change can fix this, although I’m fine if they want to do that, but my confidence in the future of the team is a bit shaken


I think Brunson is not 100% healthy. His defense was better last playoff run and he wasn't 100% then either. Something isn't right with Brunson on both ends and it's hurting us pretty badly.

I don't think they'll pick KAT over Brunson... I don't blame them. KAT has upped his value nicely.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#390 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:15 am

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TheGreenArrow wrote:The bridges trade ended any true chance this team had at a championship!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is over for this core!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Three games away from the Finals. They are right there. If this cannot do it this year, you retool, add some proper bench pieces and run it back. No team in the East is unbeatable for this Knicks team.


IMO a legit SG would do wonders. But I’m afraid things would just bench that guy to make sure Hart plays 35 mins. Deuce getting 15 tonight is criminal.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#391 » by Galvationknicks » Wed May 28, 2025 5:16 am

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KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:

New blood means not Thibs
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#392 » by NiceLikeChrist » Wed May 28, 2025 5:19 am

we can still win this series. we know what lineup works defensively and offensively. we know what lineup doesn't. it's in thibs hands.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#393 » by The KnicksFix » Wed May 28, 2025 5:20 am

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KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:


No, but Johnnie Bryant is the best young coach available who knows our players
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Post#394 » by Guano » Wed May 28, 2025 5:21 am

Ending the season going in on Brunson

I dont like it
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#395 » by Capn'O » Wed May 28, 2025 5:24 am

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mpharris36 wrote:the they are better and what can you do crowd. Sure I mean I guess we can go the route...but these playoffs are on the margins. We blew game 1 with awful coaching and players mentally and physically making mistakes down the stretch. All these games have been "winnable" never a game where we are getting completely outplayed.

There is zero creativity. The one time we sort of get creative with the rotations and minutes is because of foul trouble in game 3.

Haliburton was feeling it...not adjustment. No scheme change. Maybe try picking up full court with Wright or McBride then having Mikal and OG in help shooting the gaps...maybe try some different things to get his frustrated. Nope same defensive coverage pretty much all series...allowing them to search out our weakest defenders and pick us apart.

He just doesn't have the capabilities to take us to the next level because he simply knows one thing...play his most trust worthy guys no matter what the situation and matchup is.

I don't think we have ever run a 5-out lineup by putting Deuce with the starters. We should absolutely be trying to match Brunson minutes with McConnel so that we can put Brunson on McConnel and hedge and recover to him because he isn't a shooter. Instead the first 9 minutes or so of every qtr is the same damn ****.

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Post#396 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 5:25 am

Pacers turned up the D and watched film on where to attack

Thibs just basically did nada in prep. He “knew it would be a fast game” … so he started Mitch and KAT and put Mitch on Hali for some reason, or let him switch

And didn’t play Deuce

He did come out of the half with Mikal dribbling so Brunson could make shots … lol …. not an ounce of creativity

I don’t have the good feelings anybody has about Tom if I’m being honest … it seems like pure hubris and obnoxious entitlement
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Post#397 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 28, 2025 5:26 am

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Galvationknicks wrote:Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:


Someone said before the Knicks have to find their Torre, could it be Mike Malone?

We’re a flawed roster right now. So we have to make some changes to the roster. We need to beef up our 3 point shooting. Maybe we need a coaching change? I dunno.

We’re still not out of it.
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Post#398 » by The KnicksFix » Wed May 28, 2025 5:28 am

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Galvationknicks wrote:Cp will be on soon he was probably at the watch party.


I called in, I ripped Thibs


I heard you on there! I wish you had shouted out realgm, lol


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Post#399 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 5:29 am

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KnickLeDime wrote:I don't think we'll do it but honestly need new coaching blood, feels like Thibs has done the best he could.

Old age coaching is not working. Definitely time for new blood

You think you’re going to bring in a rookie coach here? :lol:


Not taking new ideas or trying an unproven player or coach is basically why this team has been awful for the better part of 50 years
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#400 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 5:32 am

Honestly if you had told me Deuce was only gonna play 14 minutes I’d have said you’re crazy

Seeing as though Mikal and 0g were terrible, it’s even worse.

But that’s the lesson — even if you cannot see any room for the Knicks to blow it and disappoint you, it’s there!

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