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PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#521 » by Davis18 » Wed May 28, 2025 11:57 am

Cannot believe we are getting bounced out by pacers two years in a row.
Poor preparation and worse adjustments.

That said.. we still have games to play.
Players must show their pride.
We were in all of the games.
Let's keep the faith.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#522 » by god shammgod » Wed May 28, 2025 11:59 am

if we really think about it, and it's crazy because we're in the eastern conference finals, this team has played bad basketball in the playoffs far more often than good basketball. they just were able to play great at a few opportune times. this series not as much.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#523 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 11:59 am

robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.

mikal is a really bad passer, og is a really bad catcher, etc. this roster is super turnover prone and i'm pretty certain that's why we can't overcome the pacers offense on the scoreboard
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#524 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 12:01 pm

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#525 » by gavran » Wed May 28, 2025 12:02 pm

robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart with his guts falling out, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.


You have answered your own question.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#526 » by 2010 » Wed May 28, 2025 12:03 pm

Poor defense, sloppy turnovers, bad coaching, and players not having a sense of urgency despite being down 2-1 on the road in the ECF after a historic blown lead in game 1 sums up this team.

They ain’t it. If you gotta wait to get down 3-1 to understand the sense of urgency then apparently there is a lack of leadership issue and lack of accountability on this team.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#527 » by whocares1 » Wed May 28, 2025 12:06 pm

gavran wrote:
robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart with his guts falling out, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.


You have answered your own question.


It’s not just that. They have more chemistry together now too. They traded for Pascal at the deadline. They had a full offseason to get better together.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#528 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed May 28, 2025 12:06 pm

gavran wrote:
robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart with his guts falling out, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.


You have answered your own question.

You bolded the wrong player
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#529 » by robillionaire » Wed May 28, 2025 12:10 pm

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gavran wrote:
robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart with his guts falling out, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.


You have answered your own question.

You bolded the wrong player


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Post#530 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed May 28, 2025 12:11 pm

Guano wrote:Really wish we would have just been swept so I dont have to watch another game or read about how we should trade Brunson.

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#531 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 12:12 pm

Chanel Bomber wrote:
gavran wrote:
robillionaire wrote:What grinds my gears is that we were up 2-0 on these guys last year and it went to 7 and that was with Brunson, Donte, 2 games of OG, Hart with his guts falling out, Precious, IHart, Deuce, and Alec Burks.


You have answered your own question.

You bolded the wrong player

i'm ngl i forgot to mention this on here but yesterday as i was brushing my teeth i found myself thinking "i kinda wish alec burks was on this team rn"
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#532 » by Jeffrey » Wed May 28, 2025 12:13 pm

I don't know what to think right now. I'm trying really hard to think about this offseason but it seems like we are at the door step now and it's becoming a reality. Chanaria said it will be a crazy offseason and I generally believe it.

Anyone who loves looking at teams payroll like I do (probably Richard4444) can tell you that there's going to be a lot of moving stars at a discounted price. Look at this year's trade deadline and it was just the tip of the iceberg. Everyone is looking to avoid these aprons for flexibility and owners not wanting to pay the tax of course.

I'm having a hard time thinking about another change in our core this offseason. We really can't continue to recycle shi.t based on our feelings (Leon's feelings) because we need some sort of stability and consistency. BUT AT THE SAME time, you can't have your top 2 guys to be really bad on defense like this. Every playoffs team will have a blueprint on how to expose KAT and Brunson.

Sigh.. another fcking crossroad. I was hoping that this offseason, we are focusing on building depth on our bench.

As for the game... in the end Josh Hart is a very good player but this playoff series, it wasn't good. My game thread posts are just reactions to the game. But man... Josh Hart is really dumb. He's like the Evil Kneivel for the Knicks fandom. Like are you sure you want to take those risk Josh Hart?!
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Post#533 » by GettinitDone » Wed May 28, 2025 12:14 pm

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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#534 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 12:18 pm

to me nobody on this roster should be safe except for mitchell robinson
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Post#535 » by snadler » Wed May 28, 2025 12:20 pm

The knicks did not lose this series because of bad coaching, saying that is a cop out excuse for the poor performance from the players. Indy has just been a better less flawed team this series. We spend so much time as knicks fans analyzing what they did wrong, what they can do better,
All while not giving credit or ignoring the obvious that Indy is just better. They are a deeper team, they have been together for longer, they have better defenders, better shot creators and better shooters. The knicks only chance in this series was to play at their pace, the pacers have scored over 135 points in 2 of the 4 games and of course there only loss they were held to 100. The pacers and their pace are forcing the knicks into rushing which has led to too many turnovers. The pacers pace has caused the knicks defense to scramble and be out of sorts. There are many things the knicks could have done better, and obviously choking game 1 gave them no chance in this series, but even if they won game 1, I still believe Indy would have won this series anyway just because they are just flat out better
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#536 » by Chanel Bomber » Wed May 28, 2025 12:20 pm

rajajackal wrote:to me nobody on this roster should be safe except for mitchell robinson

You get it
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#537 » by KnickLeDime » Wed May 28, 2025 12:23 pm

snadler wrote:The knicks did not lose this series because of bad coaching, saying that is a cop out excuse for the poor performance from the players. Indy has just been a better less flawed team this series. We spend so much time as knicks fans analyzing what they did wrong, what they can do better,
All while not giving credit or ignoring the obvious that Indy is just better. They are a deeper team, they have been together for longer, they have better defenders, better shot creators and better shooters. The knicks only chance in this series was to play at their pace, the pacers have scored over 135 points in 2 of the 4 games and of course there only loss they were held to 100. The pacers and their pace are forcing the knicks into rushing which has led to too many turnovers. The pacers pace has caused the knicks defense to scramble and be out of sorts. There are many things the knicks could have done better, and obviously choking game 1 gave them no chance in this series, but even if they won game 1, I still believe Indy would have won this series anyway just because they are just flat out better


This here is proper analysis...hence my comment about how do we get more of a bench. Once you get past the starting 5 on the Knicks, there's nothing there. That in itself breeds a bunch of issues with tired legs, pace of game etc.

I don't think they need to blow this up, but need to figure out how to get more quality depth. Guy like Devo here would have been a God-sent.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#538 » by HEZI » Wed May 28, 2025 12:23 pm

I think OG needs to go back to the 3. We need another ball handler who can also shoot at the 2. A bigger forward type at the 4.
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#539 » by Besart19 » Wed May 28, 2025 12:24 pm

god shammgod wrote:if we really think about it, and it's crazy because we're in the eastern conference finals, this team has played bad basketball in the playoffs far more often than good basketball. they just were able to play great at a few opportune times. this series not as much.


Thats all coaching... you can lose even playing great, because of the shots not falling, refs or injuries

but you have to execute, communicate and play like pros... we play summer league basketball 70% of the time

part of that its on the players nowdays who dont know fundamentals, but you hire first a coach like Popovich who values that and then you build the roster with that mold of players... The Spurs had very few good defenders but they still played good defense when it mattered

outside of Duncan, Bruce Bowen and then Kawhi, and to some extent Green the Spurs didnt have good defenders

Diaw, Gasol, Splitter, Belinelli, Ginobili, Parker were trash on D, but they still managed to beat most of teams and win 5 rings in 15 years
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Re: PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance 

Post#540 » by rajajackal » Wed May 28, 2025 12:26 pm

HEZI wrote:I think OG needs to go back to the 3. We need another ball handler who can also shoot at the 2. A bigger forward type at the 4.

donte and randle? :lol:

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