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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We need a Nesmith on the perimeter, it was supposed to be Wiggins. Need a high level playmaking PG. Need a true 1st option. We’ll see what Pat is cooking up
MettaWorldPanda wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We need a Nesmith on the perimeter, it was supposed to be Wiggins. Need a high level playmaking PG. Need a true 1st option. We’ll see what Pat is cooking up
Pacers grasp the concept of good quality roster construction. Last time we gave roster construction a consideration we traded for Lowry to be our QB and signed two PF’s in Tucker and Markieff Morris. Ended up 1st in the East and in Finals.
DayofMourning wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
We need a Nesmith on the perimeter, it was supposed to be Wiggins. Need a high level playmaking PG. Need a true 1st option. We’ll see what Pat is cooking up
You never know how these guys careers will play out.
Nesmith was a high draft pick who didnt quite stand out with Boston. Now hes a big contributor.
Davion was in a similar spot and he showed out for us.
IHart figured it out a bit later as well.
Giving ur talent time or a change of scenery can do wonders.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I know a lot of their fans prefer that route and don’t want the pressure of winning it all on them yet. I disagree and think it’ll only make them better now and in the long term but I see their side too. Must be nice to have the option of developing elite youth without the pressure of winning a championship or with the pressure of winning a championship lol
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Definitely think we found one with Mitchell, now got to retain him at the right dollar amount and continue to build. East is wide open, we can be back pretty quick if we play our cards right.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think we are Durant’s first team of preference. It’s going to take a Riley sell job to Durant and his agent(Pat has great relationship with) and the two year vision with Bam and Herro and whatever else they plan on adding. Along of course with a max extension. Unless one of these Texas teams are ready to give up quality assets witch essentially is what they have(No bum expiring contracts meaning they have to trade high quality young talent for Durant) I still think we are very much in the limited Durant sweepstakes.
Hallstar wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:3ballbomber wrote:
The biggest stan & fan boy on here is obsessed w/ 2 things:
1. Glazing Bam incessantly & relentlessly
2. Criticising Herro to prove how much better Bam is.
Oh add a 3rd….
3. Bagging on Riley.
Rinse & repeat daily & you got a sh*t show on this forum. Clean this bs up ADMINS! Watch ‘em delete my posts now
You were banned from PSD permanently, I believe for racist comments. Same username and everything, you have no room to talk.
1. Sure I defend the best player on my favorite team when idiots say Nic Claxton is better.
2. Don’t really care about this one, it’s never been a debate to those with a brain who is better. I criticize Herro because he hasn’t done anything worth mentioning in a Heat jersey and yet you all pretend he’s god. I called others stans because they do the same **** I do with Bam. If someone mentions Herro in a negative light you better believe hallstar and many others I won’t name due to their sensitivity are popping up.
3. Riley is washed, he’s not good anymore. It’s ok to admit that. I’m the biggest “Wade stan” there is but if he were still playing he’d be garbage. Father Time is undefeated in many fields.
Praying you get through these tough times
Bro the board was quiet, you caught feelings because someone mentioned Shaq and you got in your feelings. If someone said Wade would destroy Herro, I don't have to bring up Bam to deflect.
You’re as FAKE & PHONY as they come. DayofMourning wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think we are Durant’s first team of preference. It’s going to take a Riley sell job to Durant and his agent(Pat has great relationship with) and the two year vision with Bam and Herro and whatever else they plan on adding. Along of course with a max extension. Unless one of these Texas teams are ready to give up quality assets witch essentially is what they have(No bum expiring contracts meaning they have to trade high quality young talent for Durant) I still think we are very much in the limited Durant sweepstakes.
For Durant, we cant expect him to go out and be Heat culture on D and then blow out both knees and ankles 50 games in to the season. He needs to be load managed with an expected RS contribution of like 50 games. Most of his mins need to be 2nd half as well since we 4get how to offense with a bunch of hot potato passing deer in the headlights role players.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:DayofMourning wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think we are Durant’s first team of preference. It’s going to take a Riley sell job to Durant and his agent(Pat has great relationship with) and the two year vision with Bam and Herro and whatever else they plan on adding. Along of course with a max extension. Unless one of these Texas teams are ready to give up quality assets witch essentially is what they have(No bum expiring contracts meaning they have to trade high quality young talent for Durant) I still think we are very much in the limited Durant sweepstakes.
For Durant, we cant expect him to go out and be Heat culture on D and then blow out both knees and ankles 50 games in to the season. He needs to be load managed with an expected RS contribution of like 50 games. Most of his mins need to be 2nd half as well since we 4get how to offense with a bunch of hot potato passing deer in the headlights role players.
Yeah for sure. That would be the wise plan. Let’s see how bad Patrick wants to get this done. If we strike out then the plan should be adding some expiring vets and see how the season goes. If we fall flat and no signs of life then we prepare for the 2026 lottery and a boat load of cap space. This is why i’m pounding the table that DeRozan is such a garbage move. I’ll take my chances with Middleton at SF and his expiring contract on cadaver knees.
DayofMourning wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:I don’t think we are Durant’s first team of preference. It’s going to take a Riley sell job to Durant and his agent(Pat has great relationship with) and the two year vision with Bam and Herro and whatever else they plan on adding. Along of course with a max extension. Unless one of these Texas teams are ready to give up quality assets witch essentially is what they have(No bum expiring contracts meaning they have to trade high quality young talent for Durant) I still think we are very much in the limited Durant sweepstakes.
For Durant, we cant expect him to go out and be Heat culture on D and then blow out both knees and ankles 50 games in to the season. He needs to be load managed with an expected RS contribution of like 50 games. Most of his mins need to be 2nd half as well since we 4get how to offense with a bunch of hot potato passing deer in the headlights role players.
MettaWorldPanda wrote:Imagine if we could have traded Butler for a package of Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and pick. I would have taken that all day. Two young mid 20’s players and a pick would have felt like hitting the lotto. We ended up with Wiggins, KA, and 20th pick. This is why I think the Spurs balk at that package for Durant. The much more cost effective option for them is Cam Johnson.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I like your previous plan of only playing him in the 4th quarters lol we enter up 20 and he sustains the lead so we don’t blow 20+ double digit leads again next year
greg4012 wrote:MettaWorldPanda wrote:Imagine if we could have traded Butler for a package of Vassell, Keldon Johnson, and pick. I would have taken that all day. Two young mid 20’s players and a pick would have felt like hitting the lotto. We ended up with Wiggins, KA, and 20th pick. This is why I think the Spurs balk at that package for Durant. The much more cost effective option for them is Cam Johnson.
TBH Davion Mitchell and Wiggins is as good from a talent and impact perspective as Vassell and Keldon Johnson. And Vassell is on a Wiggins contract thru 2029
DayofMourning wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I like your previous plan of only playing him in the 4th quarters lol we enter up 20 and he sustains the lead so we don’t blow 20+ double digit leads again next year
Let him be our closer. Our worst roster flaw is not having a guy who can be doubled and still get his or open up the offense. That rears its head as soon as the game tightens up. We need a guy who can keep us loose.
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:DayofMourning wrote:3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
I like your previous plan of only playing him in the 4th quarters lol we enter up 20 and he sustains the lead so we don’t blow 20+ double digit leads again next year
Let him be our closer. Our worst roster flaw is not having a guy who can be doubled and still get his or open up the offense. That rears its head as soon as the game tightens up. We need a guy who can keep us loose.
This is elite “late game throw the ball to your superstar and tell them to get a bucket” offense. We would’ve been fighting for a 3-5 seed with someone like this to stabilize us in the 4th and hold onto big leads.
