PG: Awful gameplan, not prepared, not 1 good performance

[whocares1]

to me nobody on this roster should be safe except for mitchell robinson

Bc im sure this team made it to the ECF on the back of Mitchell Robinson…

literally yes

Tell me what Mitchell Robinson did in that first series?

[3toheadmelo]

He had a nice lil fun stretch where the refs treated him like he was 2005 Dwade. Highly entertaining.

Looking at the box score it’s crazy that we had Brunson score 31, KAT with 24, OG with 22, Mikal with 17 and we still lost. Our defense must’ve been terrible

They scored 43 points in the 1st quarter and that was with Mitch starting and Towns being on the bench for most of it after getting 2 fouls

I’d love to have some answers for this

Baiting sham this morning eh

[Wildcat]

I think OG needs to go back to the 3. We need another ball handler who can also shoot at the 2. A bigger forward type at the 4.

Zion.

A Zion and KAT front court would be a disaster defensively. Then you add Brunson and poor OG would end up snapping on the whole team in preseason before we even get to the regular season

Who says KAT still on this team?



But jokes aside, Zion's D improved in his limited 24/25 season. KAT's issue on D is IQ. I don't see IQ as an issue with Zion. I just bring him up because he played point forward more so this year than last. I'd have to ask NO fans, but I think the common consensus is he showed promise.

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[Guano]

Whats fun to think about is we should have drafted Hali but we passed on him for obi which was dumb. But o-well we got Brunson. Who was just outplayed by Hali and oh the guy we took instead of Hali just hit the shot that iced our season.


#lolKnicks

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I hate it

[Wildcat]

He had a nice lil fun stretch where the refs treated him like he was 2005 Dwade. Highly entertaining.

Looking at the box score it’s crazy that we had Brunson score 31, KAT with 24, OG with 22, Mikal with 17 and we still lost. Our defense must’ve been terrible

They scored 43 points in the 1st quarter and that was with Mitch starting and Towns being on the bench for most of it after getting 2 fouls

I’d love to have some answers for this

One can make the argument that KAT getting 2 fouls in 4 minutes of play didn't let the Knicks establish what they wanted to do as far as game flow goes and having Josh come in so early makes it redundant for the starter/bench debate. Hart is suspect #1 on why they lost yesterday. Top 5 worse games that come to mind.

[HEZI]

Zion.

A Zion and KAT front court would be a disaster defensively. Then you add Brunson and poor OG would end up snapping on the whole team in preseason before we even get to the regular season

Who says KAT still on this team?



But jokes aside, Zion's D improved in his limited 24/25 season. KAT's issue on D is IQ. I don't see IQ as an issue with Zion. I just bring him up because he played point forward more so this year than last. I'd have to ask NO fans, but I think the common consensus is he showed promise.

214 games played in 6 seasons is not someone that we can depend on. For all his defensive flaws, KAT has shown he can help carry a team and carry responsibility. Zion has only been part timing and his weight issues are still present. That’s not someone we should be depending on. Not only to stay healthy but to provide more impact offensively and defensively than KAT game in game out. I don’t think Zion can handle that. He’s like Porzingis at this point, you can add him to a team with depth already and then whatever you can from him can maybe put you over the top but he’s not a guy you gut the team for and then rely on game in game out.

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did we try to press him once or make him uncomfortable bringing the ball up. We have a few guys that can pick that guy up full court...get into him.

They do it to brunson why can't we?

[8516knicks]

Wow, did I have a horrible nightmare - I dreamt the Knicks played a really cr*ppy, stupid game with lots of dumb mistakes. It wasn't real, was it?

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did we try to press him once or make him uncomfortable bringing the ball up. We have a few guys that can pick that guy up full court...get into him.

They do it to brunson why can't we?

Coaches decision.

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did we try to press him once or make him uncomfortable bringing the ball up. We have a few guys that can pick that guy up full court...get into him.

They do it to brunson why can't we?

we give up 2/3 of the shotclock on offense and give the opponent 1/3 of the shotclock for free on defense

[sol537]

Brunson is injured… can’t defend right now.

Our only hope is to throw Deuce and Wright onto Hali to slow him down because he absolutely destroyed us.

[Wildcat]

A Zion and KAT front court would be a disaster defensively. Then you add Brunson and poor OG would end up snapping on the whole team in preseason before we even get to the regular season

Who says KAT still on this team?



But jokes aside, Zion's D improved in his limited 24/25 season. KAT's issue on D is IQ. I don't see IQ as an issue with Zion. I just bring him up because he played point forward more so this year than last. I'd have to ask NO fans, but I think the common consensus is he showed promise.

214 games played in 6 seasons is not someone that we can depend on. For all his defensive flaws, KAT has shown he can help carry a team and carry responsibility. Zion has only been part timing and his weight issues are still present. That’s not someone we should be depending on. Not only to stay healthy but to provide more impact offensively and defensively than KAT game in game out. I don’t think Zion can handle that. He’s like Porzingis at this point, you can add him to a team with depth already and then whatever you can from him can maybe put you over the top but he’s not a guy you gut the team for and then rely on game in game out.

He (Zion) very clearly needs a change of scenery and better medical staff and them "shutting" him down had everything to do with the draft. The injury itself wasn't something that weight or conditioning could resolve (back bruise). Hard falls are rough if you land on the wrong spot. The hamstring is another issue, but hey, we got OG right now and no body would have guessed OG would play over 70 games. I can't help but wonder what the Knicks medical can do for Zion.

Now, I'm not advocating to gut the team for Zion, but he's not exactly making a ton of money, either. If the right deal came along, I'd consider it.

[Knicks Byke]

officiating was really bad.

[Fury]

Brunson is injured… can’t defend right now.

Our only hope is to throw Deuce and Wright onto Hali to slow him down because he absolutely destroyed us.

Deuce, for some reason, only plays like 15 minutes a game.

Wright, for some reason, didn't get in the second half until the second set of substitutions.

We have players to make things work. Thibs isn't maximizing what we have.

[Chanel Bomber]

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Should've traded for him when the Kings bizarrely made him available.

Imagine how insufferable to the rest of the league he would be if he were a Knick.

[Knicks Byke]

A Zion and KAT front court would be a disaster defensively. Then you add Brunson and poor OG would end up snapping on the whole team in preseason before we even get to the regular season

Who says KAT still on this team?



But jokes aside, Zion's D improved in his limited 24/25 season. KAT's issue on D is IQ. I don't see IQ as an issue with Zion. I just bring him up because he played point forward more so this year than last. I'd have to ask NO fans, but I think the common consensus is he showed promise.

214 games played in 6 seasons is not someone that we can depend on. For all his defensive flaws, KAT has shown he can help carry a team and carry responsibility. Zion has only been part timing and his weight issues are still present. That’s not someone we should be depending on. Not only to stay healthy but to provide more impact offensively and defensively than KAT game in game out. I don’t think Zion can handle that. He’s like Porzingis at this point, you can add him to a team with depth already and then whatever you can from him can maybe put you over the top but he’s not a guy you gut the team for and then rely on game in game out.

id do it for 2nd round picks and Mikal.

[8516knicks]

Looking at the box score it’s crazy that we had Brunson score 31, KAT with 24, OG with 22, Mikal with 17 and we still lost. Our defense must’ve been terrible

You missed a Thibs masterclass

Not to beat a dead horse but I said since the off season that with the moves we made we were going to be significantly worse on defense than last year. Knicks have some tough decisions to make this summer if they want to go forward with this core or change things up so we can be more balanced on both ends.

Remember there was that guy Ryan Dunn a 6'8" defensive "menace" we could have drafted (and thus had cheap) instead of Dadiet who just collected splinters all year. He'd have been perfect to sick on Hali.

[sol537]

The only thing that’s worked this series… the only thing… has been KAT plus four feisty defenders around him and then Mitch off the bench in spurts. That’s it. We have to lean into that heavily. Maybe Brunson can be hidden/limited more in his minutes since he’s clearly not himself out there.