Paul George for DeAaron Fox

[axeman23]

Not to mention, “reuniting” Harper and Bailey isn’t exactly the best idea anyway. It’s like reuniting oil and water.

As someone who didn't watch a second of college ball this year, what do you mean? Personality clash? Or game redundancy?

[tmorgan]

Not to mention, “reuniting” Harper and Bailey isn’t exactly the best idea anyway. It’s like reuniting oil and water.

As someone who didn't watch a second of college ball this year, what do you mean? Personality clash? Or game redundancy?

I only watched a few Rutgers games (vs UM and MSU), but i don’t care how crap the rest of the roster was, if you have two freshman that are top 5 picks, there’s absolutely no way you should suck that bad. Harper didn’t pass much, and Bailey just didn’t pass at all. Your-turn-my-turn offense definitely doesn’t need to be reunited in the pros.

As I’ve stated elsewhere, I’m less than impressed with Harper as the #2 pick, and Bailey is a huge risk wherever he’s selected. Both obviously have talent, but made either made no effort to play winning basketball (Bailey) or just weren’t very good at it (Harper).

[Tim Lehrbach]

Not to mention, “reuniting” Harper and Bailey isn’t exactly the best idea anyway. It’s like reuniting oil and water.

As someone who didn't watch a second of college ball this year, what do you mean? Personality clash? Or game redundancy?

I only watched a few Rutgers games (vs UM and MSU), but i don’t care how crap the rest of the roster was, if you have two freshman that are top 5 picks, there’s absolutely no way you should suck that bad. Harper didn’t pass much, and Bailey just didn’t pass at all. Your-turn-my-turn offense definitely doesn’t need to be reunited in the pros.

As I’ve stated elsewhere, I’m less than impressed with Harper as the #2 pick, and Bailey is a huge risk wherever he’s selected. Both obviously have talent, but made either made no effort to play winning basketball (Bailey) or just weren’t very good at it (Harper).

This is a tangent but I thought your post was worth responding to.

I'm actually a huge Harper supporter -- I think he's just one of those guys for whom the game seems to slow down, and his skills will catch up quickly -- but this is a fair take on these two. They both have a lot to prove after showing little development as freshmen. In a stronger draft their Rutgers season hurts their stock.

My defense of Harper is twofold: one, I just agree with those who say he'll flourish in a more talented environment with capable teammates; two, I think his inability to elevate Rutgers or look the part of a leader was due to him trying to do too much rather than not having a leadership mindset in him -- and if this latter seems like a distinction without a difference, my point is that while it may have hurt his college team to go helio all the time against defenses focused on stopping him, it reflects a willingness to take charge and responsibility. I think the humility that needs to complement that mindset will come from playing with and against guys who are better than he is. Or, if it doesn't, maybe he busts. I believe in him, though.

As for the trade, Fox makes no sense for Philly, and San Antonio wouldn't ship him so soon after making a blockbuster deal to bring him in. The soonest they'd move him is after he's locked into an extension and agrees to a list of destinations -- this way they recoup value and he is happy. But the more likely scenario is both sides are glad he's in San Antonio and he's in their long-term plans.

[Daddy 801]

Easy pass if I am the Spurs. They aren’t in taking on bad contract time period of the rebuild anymore. PG’s contract sucks.

[wegotthabeet]

It doesn't matter who's coming back in all of these 3 + PG trades. Embiid's knees are paste. There's no way around this. They're not going to make a win now trade because there's no way to make this roster a contender without him.

All of the messaging from every reporter is if they trade out of 3, it's just for a minor move down in the same draft.

Makes sense, but couldn’t they use the pick to dump George and still get a lottery pick back?

[Jojothewhale]

It doesn't matter who's coming back in all of these 3 + PG trades. Embiid's knees are paste. There's no way around this. They're not going to make a win now trade because there's no way to make this roster a contender without him.

All of the messaging from every reporter is if they trade out of 3, it's just for a minor move down in the same draft.

Makes sense, but couldn’t they use the pick to dump George and still get a lottery pick back?

In the last week alone, I’ve seen PG + 3 for 21 and PG + 3 for eating Middleton and 18 deemed fair, so this is probably not the place to have that discussion.

The one thing I would say is that keeping PG and hoping for a bounce back to respectable but still well short of a star feels much more reasonable than on many teams because it doesn’t get you anywhere to move him. You’re still on the Embiid makes a miracle recovery or you’re rebuilding anyway timeline. Neither one of those options gets better by leveraging 3 to jettison the contract.

[jbk1234]

It doesn't matter who's coming back in all of these 3 + PG trades. Embiid's knees are paste. There's no way around this. They're not going to make a win now trade because there's no way to make this roster a contender without him.

All of the messaging from every reporter is if they trade out of 3, it's just for a minor move down in the same draft.

Makes sense, but couldn’t they use the pick to dump George and still get a lottery pick back?

In the last week alone, I’ve seen PG + 3 for 21 and PG + 3 for eating Middleton and 18 deemed fair, so this is probably not the place to have that discussion.

The one thing I would say is that keeping PG and hoping for a bounce back to respectable but still well short of a star feels much more reasonable than on many teams because it doesn’t get you anywhere to move him. You’re still on the Embiid makes a miracle recovery or you’re rebuilding anyway timeline. Neither one of those options gets better by leveraging 3 to jettison the contract.

Yeah, until the Sixers know where Embiid is at health wise, they shouldn't pay to get off of PG's money.

[BigGargamel]

This seems to be the rare trade that would be terrible for both teams.

Philly needs to keep that #3 pick. Just hope George can come back and play some next year, and get what you can for him when his contract is one year shorter. They need a real talent on a rookie contract. Even this stubborn jackazz of a GM needs to realize that his Embiid/George duo isn't going to work long term. You got lucky and can now have a Bailey/McCain/Maxey trio moving forward.

The Spurs made that Fox trade in hopes of pushing for the playoffs. They could have made it if Wemby didn't get hurt. Getting the #2 pick is good enough fortune. No reason to switch out Fox, who helps accelerate the timeline a bit, for Bailey, who may take years to develop. You got Fox/Harper/Castle with Wemby. That's exciting.

Easy pass for both.

[Larry_Russell]

George looks like one of the leagues worst contracts.

no way Spurs ruin what they have going for it and the number 3 pick.



Jrue Holiday and Sam hauser to the 76ers

Paul George and Kristaps Porzingis and #3 to Brooklyn

Cam Johnson, Nick Claxton, Jared McCain and #19 to Boston

[the_process]

George looks like one of the leagues worst contracts.

no way Spurs ruin what they have going for it and the number 3 pick.



Jrue Holiday and Sam hauser to the 76ers

Paul George and Kristaps Porzingis and #3 to Brooklyn

Cam Johnson, Nick Claxton, Jared McCain and #19 to Boston

Zero chance of this happening.

[enzino]

I'd do Derrick White + 28 + FRP coming from a separate trade of Pritchard + future FRP (top 5 protected)
for
#3 & george
but it must be a very large trade since Boston cannot aggregate salaries while over the second apron