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Re: Gannis, realistic? 

Post#441 » by knicksfan974 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:48 am

Kidknick! wrote:Yes. But there is going to be a huge sweepstakes. OKC can win the title then EASILY trade for him. The Spurs will be a threat too. But we are in that top 3 destinations.


It's not only the offers. It is easy to imagine Giannis rather playing in MSG than living in Oklahoma. Everything is possible.
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Re: Gannis, realistic? 

Post#442 » by knicksfan974 » Wed May 28, 2025 5:50 am

KnickLeDime wrote:Need to stay way from this guy, he's injured a lot, missing close to 20 games on average recent seasons. Going into his 30's...I'm not on board with this, they will have to gut team to get him.


Arguably still a top 3 player in world. If you can get him, you do it.
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Post#443 » by SuperflyKnick » Wed May 28, 2025 10:23 am

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Great now we will have 3 defensive liabilities in the starting lineup
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Re: Gannis, realistic? 

Post#444 » by KnickLeDime » Wed May 28, 2025 11:23 am

This is going to be sacrilege but there is talk of Spurs trading 2nd pick...you move Brunson for #2, Fox and either Castle or Sochan.
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Post#445 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 28, 2025 1:09 pm

What are people’s thoughts about a potential OG for Desmond Bane swap? Bane is more of a traditional shooting guard better suited to be a secondary ball handler, which also pushes Bridges back into his natural SF role and takes pressure off of him offensively.

Bane also makes a little less money which helps when trying to fit the full taxpayer MLE under the second apron.

I’m a little concerned about Bane’s defense, especially with KAT still on the team.
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Post#446 » by douggood » Wed May 28, 2025 1:22 pm

sol537 wrote:3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis

what picks? the fake 1st from Washington that is essentially going to be 2 seconds is the only tradeable "1st"
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Post#447 » by sol537 » Wed May 28, 2025 1:39 pm

douggood wrote:
sol537 wrote:3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis

what picks? the fake 1st from Washington that is essentially going to be 2 seconds is the only tradeable "1st"


We have the Washington pick, tons of seconds, and 1st rounders open up each new off season…
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Re: Gannis, realistic? 

Post#448 » by DaGawd » Wed May 28, 2025 1:48 pm

KnickLeDime wrote:This is going to be sacrilege but there is talk of Spurs trading 2nd pick...you move Brunson for #2, Fox and either Castle or Sochan.

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Re: Gannis, realistic? 

Post#449 » by DOT » Wed May 28, 2025 1:49 pm

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KnickLeDime wrote:Need to stay way from this guy, he's injured a lot, missing close to 20 games on average recent seasons. Going into his 30's...I'm not on board with this, they will have to gut team to get him.


Arguably still a top 3 player in world. If you can get him, you do it.

Also he's never missed 20 games in a season

Played less than 70 games in 5 of the last 6 seasons, but 2 of those were shortened seasons (played 63/73 games in 2020 and 61/72 games in 2021). All in all, last 6 seasons he's played in 394/473 games, which averages out to 68 games a season, or 14 games missed per season. For context, in the 3 years Brunson has been with us, he's played in 210/246 games, which averages out to 70 a season, only 2 games more per season than Giannis the past 6 years

But I'm gonna keep saying what I've been saying. I don't think we need to keep consolidating talent into the top, I think we need more depth and better coaching. It's not a talent issue with this team, like seriously tell me the Pacers are more talented than us. They're not, we're just not cohesive enough which can be fixed through coaching.
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Post#450 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 28, 2025 2:10 pm

sol537 wrote:1. Replace Thibs with Dan Hurley (or Mike Malone)
2. Extend Mitch Robinson
3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis
4. Extend Mikal Bridges
5. Sign Chris Paul to one-year Tax MLE
6. Sign Delon Wright to vet min deal
7. Sign Landry Shamet to vet min deal

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What does the Bridges extension look like.

He’s going to want the full 4 years - $156mm. But have you seen anything out of him that he’s a $39mm per player. Does he have good value on that deal? Does OG have good value with 4 years and about $150 left on his deal?

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Post#451 » by WargamesX » Wed May 28, 2025 2:26 pm

R-DAWG wrote:What are people’s thoughts about a potential OG for Desmond Bane swap? Bane is more of a traditional shooting guard better suited to be a secondary ball handler, which also pushes Bridges back into his natural SF role and takes pressure off of him offensively.

Bane also makes a little less money which helps when trying to fit the full taxpayer MLE under the second apron.

I’m a little concerned about Bane’s defense, especially with KAT still on the team.

Bane isn’t fixing the issue on this team. Either KAT or Brunson need to go.
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Post#452 » by douggood » Wed May 28, 2025 2:27 pm

sol537 wrote:
douggood wrote:
sol537 wrote:3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis

what picks? the fake 1st from Washington that is essentially going to be 2 seconds is the only tradeable "1st"


We have the Washington pick, tons of seconds, and 1st rounders open up each new off season…

washington pick is regarded as 2 seconds
2032 opens up this offseason but cannot be traded because 2031 is already traded.
knicks have 2nds and the ones they do have is mostly worst of in swaps

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2026 worst of nyk or Min
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Post#453 » by sol537 » Wed May 28, 2025 2:50 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
sol537 wrote:1. Replace Thibs with Dan Hurley (or Mike Malone)
2. Extend Mitch Robinson
3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis
4. Extend Mikal Bridges
5. Sign Chris Paul to one-year Tax MLE
6. Sign Delon Wright to vet min deal
7. Sign Landry Shamet to vet min deal

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What does the Bridges extension look like.

He’s going to want the full 4 years - $156mm. But have you seen anything out of him that he’s a $39mm per player. Does he have good value on that deal? Does OG have good value with 4 years and about $150 left on his deal?

These things matter


In today's NBA, that's a reasonable extension for a borderline all-star role player. We can't let him walk at this point after what we traded for him. We have to lock him up to that "reasonable" deal and then rehab his value by putting him in his more ideal role as an off-the-ball help defender (where he excels) and then cleaning the team up so he can find his role on offense better. Don't right a guy off because of one season. He did enough in the first two rounds that showed he can be a legit contributor to a winning team. Thibs is not the coach for him, however.

Having reliable vets like Paul, Wright, Shamet on the bench even if they play less than 15 mins a game and sometimes none at all, is underrated. Championship teams need guys like that who will battle on both ends and buy you time.

Re: our lack of 1st rounders, we do have Mitch, Deuce, and all the kids that can be converted into picks, if that becomes necessary in a potential Giannis trade.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#454 » by 8516knicks » Wed May 28, 2025 2:58 pm

If there is a deep first round or 2nd round Ryan Dunn type in the draft we need to find him. We need a cheap, young, LONG, D player who can guard a Haliburton, Cade or Brown. Hali's too quick for anyone on the current roster. We are in the East, where we are likely to keep facing Detroit, Boston and Indy and need to build good options for taking them on in the Playoffs, not racking up regular season wins where our starters play 40 plus minutes/game.
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Post#455 » by dakomish23 » Wed May 28, 2025 3:45 pm

Seems like the obvious move they will pursue is McBride + salary filler + whatever picks they scrounge together for DDV
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Post#456 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 28, 2025 4:17 pm

sol537 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
sol537 wrote:1. Replace Thibs with Dan Hurley (or Mike Malone)
2. Extend Mitch Robinson
3. Trade KAT, Hart, and pick(s) for Giannis and Portis
4. Extend Mikal Bridges
5. Sign Chris Paul to one-year Tax MLE
6. Sign Delon Wright to vet min deal
7. Sign Landry Shamet to vet min deal

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What does the Bridges extension look like.

He’s going to want the full 4 years - $156mm. But have you seen anything out of him that he’s a $39mm per player. Does he have good value on that deal? Does OG have good value with 4 years and about $150 left on his deal?

These things matter


In today's NBA, that's a reasonable extension for a borderline all-star role player. We can't let him walk at this point after what we traded for him. We have to lock him up to that "reasonable" deal and then rehab his value by putting him in his more ideal role as an off-the-ball help defender (where he excels) and then cleaning the team up so he can find his role on offense better. Don't right a guy off because of one season. He did enough in the first two rounds that showed he can be a legit contributor to a winning team. Thibs is not the coach for him, however.

Having reliable vets like Paul, Wright, Shamet on the bench even if they play less than 15 mins a game and sometimes none at all, is underrated. Championship teams need guys like that who will battle on both ends and buy you time.

Re: our lack of 1st rounders, we do have Mitch, Deuce, and all the kids that can be converted into picks, if that becomes necessary in a potential Giannis trade.


1) is Bridges a borderline all-star? Or did he have a run similar to what Quentin Grimes did in Philly over a 3 month period?

2) No one is giving up a 1st rd pick for Kolek, Dadiet or Hukporti. MAYBE you can get a late 1st for Mitch or Duce, but it's far form guaranteed.

Leon has put us in a very tough spot with a second tier team that has no assets and no flexibility. His hope was that things would line up one year. It did and it was enough to get to a conference finals where we had no chance of winning. Welcome to the Dame player on the court, Suns east in terms of picks/payroll.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd 

Post#457 » by WargamesX » Wed May 28, 2025 4:42 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
sol537 wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
What does the Bridges extension look like.

He’s going to want the full 4 years - $156mm. But have you seen anything out of him that he’s a $39mm per player. Does he have good value on that deal? Does OG have good value with 4 years and about $150 left on his deal?

These things matter


In today's NBA, that's a reasonable extension for a borderline all-star role player. We can't let him walk at this point after what we traded for him. We have to lock him up to that "reasonable" deal and then rehab his value by putting him in his more ideal role as an off-the-ball help defender (where he excels) and then cleaning the team up so he can find his role on offense better. Don't right a guy off because of one season. He did enough in the first two rounds that showed he can be a legit contributor to a winning team. Thibs is not the coach for him, however.

Having reliable vets like Paul, Wright, Shamet on the bench even if they play less than 15 mins a game and sometimes none at all, is underrated. Championship teams need guys like that who will battle on both ends and buy you time.

Re: our lack of 1st rounders, we do have Mitch, Deuce, and all the kids that can be converted into picks, if that becomes necessary in a potential Giannis trade.


1) is Bridges a borderline all-star? Or did he have a run similar to what Quentin Grimes did in Philly over a 3 month period?

2) No one is giving up a 1st rd pick for Kolek, Dadiet or Hukporti. MAYBE you can get a late 1st for Mitch or Duce, but it's far form guaranteed.

Leon has put us in a very tough spot with a second tier team that has no assets and no flexibility. His hope was that things would line up one year. It did and it was enough to get to a conference finals where we had no chance of winning. Welcome to the Dame player on the court, Suns east in terms of picks/payroll.


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Post#458 » by R-DAWG » Wed May 28, 2025 5:35 pm

WargamesX wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
sol537 wrote:
In today's NBA, that's a reasonable extension for a borderline all-star role player. We can't let him walk at this point after what we traded for him. We have to lock him up to that "reasonable" deal and then rehab his value by putting him in his more ideal role as an off-the-ball help defender (where he excels) and then cleaning the team up so he can find his role on offense better. Don't right a guy off because of one season. He did enough in the first two rounds that showed he can be a legit contributor to a winning team. Thibs is not the coach for him, however.

Having reliable vets like Paul, Wright, Shamet on the bench even if they play less than 15 mins a game and sometimes none at all, is underrated. Championship teams need guys like that who will battle on both ends and buy you time.

Re: our lack of 1st rounders, we do have Mitch, Deuce, and all the kids that can be converted into picks, if that becomes necessary in a potential Giannis trade.


1) is Bridges a borderline all-star? Or did he have a run similar to what Quentin Grimes did in Philly over a 3 month period?

2) No one is giving up a 1st rd pick for Kolek, Dadiet or Hukporti. MAYBE you can get a late 1st for Mitch or Duce, but it's far form guaranteed.

Leon has put us in a very tough spot with a second tier team that has no assets and no flexibility. His hope was that things would line up one year. It did and it was enough to get to a conference finals where we had no chance of winning. Welcome to the Dame player on the court, Suns east in terms of picks/payroll.


The solution is trade KAT.


For who?

Doesn't change the fact that Bridges and Anunoby are not secondary scoring options on championship teams.
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Post#459 » by Garbagelo » Wed May 28, 2025 5:48 pm

Kat for Suggs + Carter + multiple picks
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Post#460 » by K_ick_God » Wed May 28, 2025 6:21 pm

Get rid of Thibs, trade 0g for nothing, and tank next year, we have our pick.

Trade KAT for someone who won't play next year or who is developmental.

Bridges for a couple seconds.

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