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dakomish23 wrote:
Siakam
25.8 PPG 4.8 RPG 3.3 APG 1.0 SPG 0.3 BPG 0.5 TOV
54.1% on 18.5 FGA
50.0% on 3.0 3PA
70.8% on 6.0 FTA
Boardbreaker wrote:dakomish23 wrote:
Siakam
25.8 PPG 4.8 RPG 3.3 APG 1.0 SPG 0.3 BPG 0.5 TOV
54.1% on 18.5 FGA
50.0% on 3.0 3PA
70.8% on 6.0 FTA
Gilbert and the Morris twins? Are they just trying to find the dumbest players possible to make Stephen A look smarter in comparison?
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
To push the Pacers one win shy of the NBA Finals, Tyrese Haliburton delivered a performance that was one of one.
Pacers 130, Knicks 121: In an all-around masterclass, Haliburton posted game-highs in points (32), rebounds (12), assists (15) and steals (4), while committing 0 turnovers, powering the Pacers past Jalen Brunson (31 pts, 5 ast) and the Knicks to take a 3-1 series lead.
Unprecedented: Haliburton is the first player in NBA history to record 30+ pts, 10+ reb, 15+ ast and 0 turnovers in a Playoff game since turnovers were first tracked in 1977-78
Unmatched: Remove his turnovers and his stat line still stands alone, as no player has gone 30/10/15 with 2+ steals in a Playoff game since steals were first tracked in 1973-74
Unrivaled: He’s also the first Pacer to record a 30-point triple-double in a Playoff game and the first player ever to go 30/10/15 in a Conference Finals game
Haliburton's historic night began with a historic start – 15 pts, 5 reb and 6 ast in the 1st quarter – joining LeBron James as the only players to go 15/5/5 in any quarter of a Playoff game in the play-by-play era.
Stacking Records: At the break, Haliburton had yet another historic stat line – 20 pts, 8 reb, 10 ast, 4 3s – numbers unmatched by any player in any half of a Playoff game in the PxP era
And in the 4th quarter, with the Knicks storming back from 15 points down, it was Haliburton who said good night.
The Extender: With Indy on a 3+ minute field goal drought and the lead slipping, Haliburton stopped the bleeding with a smooth finger roll to restore a double-digit cushion
The Answer: In clutch time with the Knicks down six and riding a 13-5 run, Haliburton responded again, driving in for another momentum-halting layup
The Closer: With 46 ticks left and Indy up seven, Obi Toppin drilled a game-sealing 3 off an inbound pass from – guess who? Haliburton
“It was important for me to come out here and just make plays,” said Haliburton on the win. “I was just trying to play my game.”
Special Night, Special Player: In a league increasingly defined by ‘score-first’ guards, Haliburton continues to bend the game in the opposite direction – orchestrating, not overpowering, his way to all-time numbers.
Dynamic Distribution: Wednesday marked the eighth time since turnovers were first tracked that there’s been a 30-point, 15-assist game with zero turnovers. Haliburton owns three of them
Unseen Efficiency: He’s also the first player to average 18+ points, 5+ boards and 9+ assists while committing fewer than 2 turnovers through the first 14 games of a single Playoff run
And last night, with the Pacers chasing their first Finals berth since 2000, Haliburton's fingerprints were everywhere – accounting for 51.5% of Indy’s points, over half its assists and over a third of its rebounds.
Alone Again: In fact, since turnovers were first tracked, no player has ever led both teams in points, rebounds, assists and steals while committing zero turnovers in a Playoff game – until Haliburton on Wednesday
But perhaps no number captures Haliburton’s all-around impact more than this:
Even without his 32 points, his statline still stands alone, as no other player had ever recorded 15+ assists, 12+ rebounds, 4+ steals and 0 turnovers in an NBA game – regular season or Playoffs.
Haliburton did it to move his team five wins away from an NBA title.
Lattimer wrote:Cracks me up that people still think that Wiggins will be involved in the trade for Love. Wolves are out of their mind if they think they are getting Wiggins for Love.
XTC wrote:Just looking for people's opinions. How does each team look if they replaced their point guards with each other?
Pacers get far worst, and the Knicks are the favorites to win it all IMO. Haliburton is super underrated.
XTC wrote:Just looking for people's opinions. How does each team look if they replaced their point guards with each other?
Pacers get far worst, and the Knicks are the favorites to win it all IMO. Haliburton is super underrated.
XTC wrote:Just looking for people's opinions. How does each team look if they replaced their point guards with each other?
Pacers get far worst, and the Knicks are the favorites to win it all IMO. Haliburton is super underrated.
Capn'O wrote:We're the recovering meth addict older brother. And we've been clean for a few years now, thank you very much. Very uncouth to bring it up.
Boardbreaker wrote:Gilbert and the Morris twins? Are they just trying to find the dumbest players possible to make Stephen A look smarter in comparison?
Raps in 4 wrote:___Rand___ wrote:Nuntius wrote:
I mean, the Raptors did tank in Pascal's later years and all that losing can definitely feel like dark times to the players.
That's NOT what he meant by dark times. You don't know this because nobody pays attention to Raptors. but after Kawhi left Pascal was our best ISO player. Nurse went to him for late game ISO situations, because he was our best, and also to develop him further.
And admittedly, he was still developing, and was still pretty raw. From that year which ended with playoffs in covid, to 2022-23 season, there was relentless criticism of Pascal as a player, and as a human being by a large number of Raptors fan base. Some of which were quite frankly racist (like send him back to Africa, etc). It was all over social media, and it impacted his game and shooting. Pascal admitted this, and he stopped engaging in social media after that covid season. That criticism was everywhere - twitter, on reddit, and on this VERY board. It was ugly. Even Masai mentioned that in his end of year press conference. It wasn't until his 2nd all-star season Pascal criticism became less intense. I remember that vividly because I spent long hours defending Pascal on boards. Same thing happened with Ibaka too. Not all Canadians are nice.
This is nonsense. The city was very high on Pascal's potential after Kawhi left. Criticism of his game peaked in his last two years here when it was clear the team was going nowhere with him and Fred as options 1A and 1B. That criticism was unwarranted because Pascal and Fred didn't ask for their roles on the team. Masai failed to acquire a franchise player after Kawhi left/Lowry aged out.
Yeah, he faced a lot of racism online, but so does every Black athlete. That's not a problem unique to Toronto or Canada. It's a global problem. I'm positive that the "dark times" he was referring two were the last two years when the team was directionless and uncompetitive, and he was taking the fall for it (instead of management).
Nuntius wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:___Rand___ wrote:
That's NOT what he meant by dark times. You don't know this because nobody pays attention to Raptors. but after Kawhi left Pascal was our best ISO player. Nurse went to him for late game ISO situations, because he was our best, and also to develop him further.
And admittedly, he was still developing, and was still pretty raw. From that year which ended with playoffs in covid, to 2022-23 season, there was relentless criticism of Pascal as a player, and as a human being by a large number of Raptors fan base. Some of which were quite frankly racist (like send him back to Africa, etc). It was all over social media, and it impacted his game and shooting. Pascal admitted this, and he stopped engaging in social media after that covid season. That criticism was everywhere - twitter, on reddit, and on this VERY board. It was ugly. Even Masai mentioned that in his end of year press conference. It wasn't until his 2nd all-star season Pascal criticism became less intense. I remember that vividly because I spent long hours defending Pascal on boards. Same thing happened with Ibaka too. Not all Canadians are nice.
This is nonsense. The city was very high on Pascal's potential after Kawhi left. Criticism of his game peaked in his last two years here when it was clear the team was going nowhere with him and Fred as options 1A and 1B. That criticism was unwarranted because Pascal and Fred didn't ask for their roles on the team. Masai failed to acquire a franchise player after Kawhi left/Lowry aged out.
Yeah, he faced a lot of racism online, but so does every Black athlete. That's not a problem unique to Toronto or Canada. It's a global problem. I'm positive that the "dark times" he was referring two were the last two years when the team was directionless and uncompetitive, and he was taking the fall for it (instead of management).
I and-1'd both of your posts even though you disagree because you both shared a lot of the context with me and I wholeheartedly appreciate that. You know, one of the things that happen with fandom is that a team's fans will always (and naturally) know a lot of stuff that the rest of the NBA isn't really aware of and they're the only ones that can really shed light into them. So, thank you both for providing that context, guys
King4Day wrote:While I was rooting for the Knicks, I am really fascinated by the Pacers. I don't know what their chances will be to win it all but what a story they are.
And how insane would it be if they came from out of nowhere to win their first ever championship?
The shame is, OKC/Indy will be a hell of a finals and likely one of the least watched.
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:XTC wrote:Just looking for people's opinions. How does each team look if they replaced their point guards with each other?
Pacers get far worst, and the Knicks are the favorites to win it all IMO. Haliburton is super underrated.
Bad take.
Hali would look awful on a team like this if he’s coached by Thibs. Carlisle would make it work with Brunson the same way he did back in Dallas.
bronxknicksfan1 wrote:XTC wrote:Just looking for people's opinions. How does each team look if they replaced their point guards with each other?
Pacers get far worst, and the Knicks are the favorites to win it all IMO. Haliburton is super underrated.
Bad take.
Hali would look awful on a team like this if he’s coached by Thibs. Carlisle would make it work with Brunson the same way he did back in Dallas.
Hoop Hunter wrote:___Rand___ wrote:Nuntius wrote:
I mean, the Raptors did tank in Pascal's later years and all that losing can definitely feel like dark times to the players.
That's NOT what he meant by dark times. You don't know this because nobody pays attention to Raptors. but after Kawhi left Pascal was our best ISO player. Nurse went to him for late game ISO situations, because he was our best, and also to develop him further.
And admittedly, he was still developing, and was still pretty raw. From that year which ended with playoffs in covid, to 2022-23 season, there was relentless criticism of Pascal as a player, and as a human being by a large number of Raptors fan base. Some of which were quite frankly racist (like send him back to Africa, etc). It was all over social media, and it impacted his game and shooting. Pascal admitted this, and he stopped engaging in social media after that covid season. That criticism was everywhere - twitter, on reddit, and on this VERY board. It was ugly. Even Masai mentioned that in his end of year press conference. It wasn't until his 2nd all-star season Pascal criticism became less intense. I remember that vividly because I spent long hours defending Pascal on boards. Same thing happened with Ibaka too. Not all Canadians are nice.
Wow, I'd never heard this. That's very sad, they're horrible people everywhere. Makes me ever happier for Paskal, not just the basketball player, the person.
Raps in 4 wrote:___Rand___ wrote:Nuntius wrote:
I mean, the Raptors did tank in Pascal's later years and all that losing can definitely feel like dark times to the players.
That's NOT what he meant by dark times. You don't know this because nobody pays attention to Raptors. but after Kawhi left Pascal was our best ISO player. Nurse went to him for late game ISO situations, because he was our best, and also to develop him further.
And admittedly, he was still developing, and was still pretty raw. From that year which ended with playoffs in covid, to 2022-23 season, there was relentless criticism of Pascal as a player, and as a human being by a large number of Raptors fan base. Some of which were quite frankly racist (like send him back to Africa, etc). It was all over social media, and it impacted his game and shooting. Pascal admitted this, and he stopped engaging in social media after that covid season. That criticism was everywhere - twitter, on reddit, and on this VERY board. It was ugly. Even Masai mentioned that in his end of year press conference. It wasn't until his 2nd all-star season Pascal criticism became less intense. I remember that vividly because I spent long hours defending Pascal on boards. Same thing happened with Ibaka too. Not all Canadians are nice.
This is nonsense. The city was very high on Pascal's potential after Kawhi left. Criticism of his game peaked in his last two years here when it was clear the team was going nowhere with him and Fred as options 1A and 1B. That criticism was unwarranted because Pascal and Fred didn't ask for their roles on the team. Masai failed to acquire a franchise player after Kawhi left/Lowry aged out.
Yeah, he faced a lot of racism online, but so does every Black athlete. That's not a problem unique to Toronto or Canada. It's a global problem. I'm positive that the "dark times" he was referring two were the last two years when the team was directionless and uncompetitive, and he was taking the fall for it (instead of management).
Tacoma wrote:Hoop Hunter wrote:___Rand___ wrote:
That's NOT what he meant by dark times. You don't know this because nobody pays attention to Raptors. but after Kawhi left Pascal was our best ISO player. Nurse went to him for late game ISO situations, because he was our best, and also to develop him further.
And admittedly, he was still developing, and was still pretty raw. From that year which ended with playoffs in covid, to 2022-23 season, there was relentless criticism of Pascal as a player, and as a human being by a large number of Raptors fan base. Some of which were quite frankly racist (like send him back to Africa, etc). It was all over social media, and it impacted his game and shooting. Pascal admitted this, and he stopped engaging in social media after that covid season. That criticism was everywhere - twitter, on reddit, and on this VERY board. It was ugly. Even Masai mentioned that in his end of year press conference. It wasn't until his 2nd all-star season Pascal criticism became less intense. I remember that vividly because I spent long hours defending Pascal on boards. Same thing happened with Ibaka too. Not all Canadians are nice.
Wow, I'd never heard this. That's very sad, they're horrible people everywhere. Makes me ever happier for Paskal, not just the basketball player, the person.
If this is regarding the TNT interview, then I disagree Siakam was talking about racism. The question Ernie asked was tying in to his present experience to 84 playoff games and getting a ring in Toronto, to which Siakam responded "I'm so blessed to be in this position [playoffs]" and then following with "I've seen some dark times" he's referring to the recent dark times of not making the playoffs and tanking in Toronto.
It makes no sense to answer that question by talking about a racism incident incited by a few stupid alleged Raptors fans that happened years ago.
