NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 6

[Kanyewest]

If Brunson didn't have his Godfather running the team and if his dad wasn't a coach, he would be the first guy I'd look to trade. His value will never be higher and he has a great contract. He's undersized and he can't play defense. The guy is a magician on offense but he's not a championship player.

Hart/Bridges/OG - all inconsistent offensively, and if I had to trade one it would be Bridges. I'd try and recoup the picks I traded, and he's due for an extension which makes this team even more expensive. Hart would be the other guy I would trade.

You take away their #1 option in Brunson and then what? Its suddenly a 1st round exit waiting to happen. The issue is Towns at C moreso than Brunson. Towns IMO needs another C alongside him to protect him defensively. Mitch Robinson has had his moments but they need to find a better fit to pair with Towns up front.

Mitch is averaging 6 and 6.5 in around 24 minutes per game in his last 2 starts. He was plus 1 in game 3 but - 20 in game 4.

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anyone watching okc blow out the twolves?

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I turned it off. Pretty terrible series, DEN was a better matchup obviously.
Tomorrow nights game should be good though.

[9 and 20]

My money is on NY winning out to take the series. No way Silver, after gifting Dallas Flagg, is going to be OK with an Indiana vs Oklahoma finals.

Caveat - talking about pretend money, obviously. I have no confidence in this prediction, only anger at the lottery gods.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Sorry, but we need to pump the brakes on this Queen = Randle idea. Randle has played well in the playoffs because he has proven to be a solid defender at the PF position, even guarding Lebron in isolation with success. Randle was able to do this because he is actually a very good athlete and was always a very good athlete, even as a draft prospect. Queen is nowhere near the athlete that Randle was, it's not even close. Here are Randle's combine numbers compared to Queen's. Note that they are the same weight.



Randle is a full second faster in lane agility and jumps 7.5 inches higher!

Queen absolutely cannot play PF. He will get destroyed on defense. Guys will blow past him like he is standing still. He has to play center, and then we are talking about a 6'-9" center with a mediocre wingspan who can't jump. He would be a much shorter and probably slower Jokic on defense. (Jokic is 6'-11 with a 7'-3" wingspan.)

You speak in absolutes. I envision him with Sarr. Defensive matchups go both ways.

Which PFs will guard Queen or Sarr?

Centers will guard Queen. PF's will guard Sarr. I don't think either guy will be able to exploit any offensive advantage nearly well enough to make up for the disastrous defensive disadvantage Queen will face on every possession.

We've seen this movie before with Thomas Bryant. Bryant was an excellent, highly efficient offensive player who put up great numbers. The guy was averaging 19 points and 11 boards on an unbelievable .679 TS% with virtually no turnovers, but the Wizards couldn't win with him. Now, Indy can't even play him in a playoff game.

Defense is just too critical for a center. Teams are dead in the water if their center can neither switch nor protect the rim. It's a tough thing to get people to understand. It's easy to see the positive effect of guys that put the ball in the bucket; but it's much harder to properly account for negative effect when a guy fails to make a defensive play that a better defender can make, or when a team must utilize a less effective defensive scheme because they have a player who is incapable of holding up his responsibility in a more effective defensive scheme.

Randle, the guy who only remembers he can play basketball during the playoffs? What a frustrating guy to have on your roster.

I give. I'm losing this argument. If this were chess, I'd resign.

I hope Derik Queen exceeds expectations as a defender.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

If Brunson didn't have his Godfather running the team and if his dad wasn't a coach, he would be the first guy I'd look to trade. His value will never be higher and he has a great contract. He's undersized and he can't play defense. The guy is a magician on offense but he's not a championship player.

Hart/Bridges/OG - all inconsistent offensively, and if I had to trade one it would be Bridges. I'd try and recoup the picks I traded, and he's due for an extension which makes this team even more expensive. Hart would be the other guy I would trade.

Not sure Towns is championship caliber either, a little hot and cold. Apply for a Knicks front office job. Put RealGM on your résumé, Doc and Nate as references.

Don't put my name. My fetish for undersized PFs and defensively challenged Cs has me blackballed as a talent evaluator. FWIW, I think trading Anunoby would be INSANE. I think KAT is a brilliant player, perhaps the best C not named Jokic or Zubac. I will soon rate Holmgren higher than Townes.

I say don't trade Brunson, either. He's the leader in clutch points and the straw that stirs the drink. He dropped 61 points in a game. He's the best scorer his size I've seen.

The Knicks will apparently move on from big men Precious Achiuwa and Jericho Sims.

Is there any way for Queen to end up as KAT's and Mitchell Robinson's backup?

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

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[nate33]

If Brunson didn't have his Godfather running the team and if his dad wasn't a coach, he would be the first guy I'd look to trade. His value will never be higher and he has a great contract. He's undersized and he can't play defense. The guy is a magician on offense but he's not a championship player.

Hart/Bridges/OG - all inconsistent offensively, and if I had to trade one it would be Bridges. I'd try and recoup the picks I traded, and he's due for an extension which makes this team even more expensive. Hart would be the other guy I would trade.

Not sure Towns is championship caliber either, a little hot and cold. Apply for a Knicks front office job. Put RealGM on your résumé, Doc and Nate as references.

Don't put my name. My fetish for undersized PFs and defensively challenged Cs has me blackballed as a talent evaluator. FWIW, I think trading Anunoby would be INSANE. I think KAT is a brilliant player, perhaps the best C not named Jokic or Zubac. I will soon rate Holmgren than Towns.

I say don't trade Brunson, either. He's the leader in clutch points and the straw that stirs the drink. He dropped 61 points in a game. He's the best scorer his size I've seen.

The Knicks will apparently move on from big men Precious Achiuwa and Jericho Sims.

Is there any way for Queen to end up as KAT's and Mitchell Robinson's backup?

I agree with you about the Knicks, BTW. They should hold it together and run it back. People are acting like being bounced in the ECF's is somehow a bad thing.

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Right. This series is one freak of nature bounce off the back iron from being 2-2 by the way.

Knicks need a little more depth.

[Rafael122]

Not sure Towns is championship caliber either, a little hot and cold. Apply for a Knicks front office job. Put RealGM on your résumé, Doc and Nate as references.

Don't put my name. My fetish for undersized PFs and defensively challenged Cs has me blackballed as a talent evaluator. FWIW, I think trading Anunoby would be INSANE. I think KAT is a brilliant player, perhaps the best C not named Jokic or Zubac. I will soon rate Holmgren than Towns.

I say don't trade Brunson, either. He's the leader in clutch points and the straw that stirs the drink. He dropped 61 points in a game. He's the best scorer his size I've seen.

The Knicks will apparently move on from big men Precious Achiuwa and Jericho Sims.

Is there any way for Queen to end up as KAT's and Mitchell Robinson's backup?

I agree with you about the Knicks, BTW. They should hold it together and run it back. People are acting like being bounced in the ECF's is somehow a bad thing.

Still think they need a two guard. Maybe something like Hart and Robinson for McCollum.

[nate33]

Right. This series is one freak of nature bounce off the back iron from being 2-2 by the way.

Knicks need a little more depth.

And they might even have that depth on the roster if Thibs would ever try and develop it during the regular season.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Right. This series is one freak of nature bounce off the back iron from being 2-2 by the way.

Knicks need a little more depth.

Exactly.

The Knicks could use a Nique Clifford type player from this draft.

They should pursue a trade for someone like Dalton Knecht. Charlotte might hand NYK a championship with a Mark Williams trade.

The Knicks should try to trade with the Wizards. COREY KISPERT could be the next Donta Divincenzo. Wizard castaways often end up champions.

Like nate said, run it back.

Add depth.

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Don't put my name. My fetish for undersized PFs and defensively challenged Cs has me blackballed as a talent evaluator. FWIW, I think trading Anunoby would be INSANE. I think KAT is a brilliant player, perhaps the best C not named Jokic or Zubac. I will soon rate Holmgren than Towns.

I say don't trade Brunson, either. He's the leader in clutch points and the straw that stirs the drink. He dropped 61 points in a game. He's the best scorer his size I've seen.

The Knicks will apparently move on from big men Precious Achiuwa and Jericho Sims.

Is there any way for Queen to end up as KAT's and Mitchell Robinson's backup?

I agree with you about the Knicks, BTW. They should hold it together and run it back. People are acting like being bounced in the ECF's is somehow a bad thing.

Still think they need a two guard. Maybe something like Hart and Robinson for McCollum.

I disagree, respectfully.

I think Magic is correct. Start Hart at SG.

[Jay81]

Ant has been terrible since the Lakers series.

[Kanyewest]

Landry Shamet got a standing ovation at MSG.

[Kanyewest]

Not sure Towns is championship caliber either, a little hot and cold. Apply for a Knicks front office job. Put RealGM on your résumé, Doc and Nate as references.

Don't put my name. My fetish for undersized PFs and defensively challenged Cs has me blackballed as a talent evaluator. FWIW, I think trading Anunoby would be INSANE. I think KAT is a brilliant player, perhaps the best C not named Jokic or Zubac. I will soon rate Holmgren than Towns.

I say don't trade Brunson, either. He's the leader in clutch points and the straw that stirs the drink. He dropped 61 points in a game. He's the best scorer his size I've seen.

The Knicks will apparently move on from big men Precious Achiuwa and Jericho Sims.

Is there any way for Queen to end up as KAT's and Mitchell Robinson's backup?

I agree with you about the Knicks, BTW. They should hold it together and run it back. People are acting like being bounced in the ECF's is somehow a bad thing.

Jalen Brunson's stats this series: 33 PPG, 2.6 REB, 5.4 AST on 51.4/36.1/93.3 (65.1% TS). Pacers are just playing well as they have been against the Bucks and Cavs.

Knicks traded Sims in the Kuzma trade and the Knicks got Delon Wright.

[closg00]

Kinda interesting, I imagine the Lakers do the same, apologies if you don’t have FB.
https://www.facebook.com/share/v/1AiHXLqqef/?mibextid=wwXIfr

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Who you fellas got tonight?

[closg00]

Who you fellas got tonight?

How can it not go to a game 7?