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**NBA Draft Discussion 2025**

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Who's the guard pick if all available at 20?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:35 pm

Jase Richardson
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9%
Nolan Traore
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17%
Walter Clayton Jr
14
61%
Ben Saraf
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13%
 
Total votes: 23

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#961 » by HeatFan_NC » Tue May 27, 2025 1:18 am

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HeatFan_NC wrote:With the 20th pick, I think Walter Clayton Jr. would be a solid and safe pick.



Agreed.

And that's exactly why it will be the wrong pick.

We don't need more solid safe players, we need game changers with real upside.


Do you think a game changer will be on the board that late in the draft?
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#962 » by twix2500 » Tue May 27, 2025 2:09 am

As of right now I'm on board with (if available) Rasheer Fleming, Michael Clayton Jr, and Cedric Coward, in the 2nd Milo's Uzan, Alijah Martin and Maxime Raynaud


Gonna take a deep dive into Collin Murray-Boyles

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Post#963 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue May 27, 2025 2:58 am

Teams from 10-19 don’t really have need for PG. Could cause a very good problem for us getting to choose from about 3-4 of them. Expecting some combination of Saraf, Traore, Clayton Jr, Philon, and Richardson to be there. Egor Demin is a wildcard could go anywhere from 8-19. Magic are probably going to deal for Simons.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#964 » by RexBoyWonder » Tue May 27, 2025 11:20 am

HeatFan_NC wrote:
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HeatFan_NC wrote:With the 20th pick, I think Walter Clayton Jr. would be a solid and safe pick.



Agreed.

And that's exactly why it will be the wrong pick.

We don't need more solid safe players, we need game changers with real upside.


Do you think a game changer will be on the board that late in the draft?


We should be picking in the lottery because we're desperate for high end talent.

At #20 we need to pray, but a small chance is better then zero chance.
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Post#965 » by greg4012 » Tue May 27, 2025 3:25 pm

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Has a true 2-way PGs game. Better onball shooting than offball (I believe he was around the 80th percentile in pull-up 3pt shooting), but was forced into more of an off-ball role to defer to smaller more experienced guards that need the ball to be effective (Mark Sears and Aden Holloway). Despite adjusting to more of an off-ball role, he still provided consistent clear impact on the court--12th among freshman in all of college bball in BPM this past season. Boasted a 36.7 defensive field goal percentage on the season.

Steady floor with underrated upside. He's just skinny as hell (built like Dejounte Murray)

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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#966 » by Joey Bada » Tue May 27, 2025 3:47 pm

HeatFan_NC wrote:
RexBoyWonder wrote:
HeatFan_NC wrote:With the 20th pick, I think Walter Clayton Jr. would be a solid and safe pick.



Agreed.

And that's exactly why it will be the wrong pick.

We don't need more solid safe players, we need game changers with real upside.


Do you think a game changer will be on the board that late in the draft?


Do you trust all the teams that are perennially in the lottery to identify top end talent?

Plenty of players develop into stars later in drafts, just like plenty of players don’t develop in to stars earlier in drafts.
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Post#967 » by MettaWorldPanda » Tue May 27, 2025 3:48 pm

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Has a true 2-way PGs game. Better onball shooting than offball (I believe he was around the 80th percentile in pull-up 3pt shooting), but was forced into more of an off-ball role to defer to smaller more experienced guards that need the ball to be effective (Mark Sears and Aden Holloway). Despite adjusting to more of an off-ball role, he still provided consistent clear impact on the court--12th among freshman in all of college bball in BPM this past season. Boasted a 36.7 defensive field goal percentage on the season.

Steady floor with underrated upside. He's just skinny as hell (built like Dejounte Murray)

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He might be the hidden Maxey of the draft. I’m excited for the 20th pick. Plenty of quality options that you can validate as bpa at the weakest spot on our roster that should be there.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#968 » by twix2500 » Wed May 28, 2025 7:14 pm

Anyone knows how is Tyrese Proctor's defense?
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Post#969 » by twix2500 » Wed May 28, 2025 7:22 pm



Proctor shot 40% from 3 last season on 5.8 attempts. I see the criticism is his strength which is something that can easily be fixed. Much of the scouting reports is that his IQ is high. 6'4.25 without shoes. 6'7.25 wingspan, 183 lbs
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Post#970 » by twix2500 » Wed May 28, 2025 7:59 pm

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Has a true 2-way PGs game. Better onball shooting than offball (I believe he was around the 80th percentile in pull-up 3pt shooting), but was forced into more of an off-ball role to defer to smaller more experienced guards that need the ball to be effective (Mark Sears and Aden Holloway). Despite adjusting to more of an off-ball role, he still provided consistent clear impact on the court--12th among freshman in all of college bball in BPM this past season. Boasted a 36.7 defensive field goal percentage on the season.

Steady floor with underrated upside. He's just skinny as hell (built like Dejounte Murray)

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He might be the hidden Maxey of the draft. I’m excited for the 20th pick. Plenty of quality options that you can validate as bpa at the weakest spot on our roster that should be there.



Its hard to evaluate Philon because his game tape doesnt say much to warrant a 1st round pick. And I do not care about highschool ratings. He will have to show something in private workouts.
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Post#971 » by twix2500 » Wed May 28, 2025 8:00 pm

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Post#972 » by MettaWorldPanda » Wed May 28, 2025 8:03 pm

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Post#973 » by twix2500 » Wed May 28, 2025 8:41 pm

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Proctor shot 40% from 3 last season on 5.8 attempts. I see the criticism is his strength which is something that can easily be fixed. Much of the scouting reports is that his IQ is high. 6'4.25 without shoes. 6'7.25 wingspan, 183 lbs



Perimeter scoring: Improved in all three years of his college career, going from a shaky shooter as a freshman to a solid one as a sophomore to a good one as a junior. His improvement was consistent both off the catch and off the dribble too. As a junior, Synergy shows he shot 37.2% on catch-and-shoot 3s, 40.5% on dribble-jumper 3s, and 52.9% on pull-up 2s. While he isn’t a knockdown guy off catch-and-shoot attempts, and he’s not a savant creator, he’s serviceable.

Defense: Long-armed defender who plays with heart, effort, and IQ both on and off the ball.

https://sports.yahoo.com/nba/article/2025-nba-draft-scouting-report-tyrese-proctor-g-duke-165553864.html


Strengths

Pick-and-Roll Mastery: Reads defenses well, making smart decisions in ball-screen situations.

Versatility: Can play on or off the ball and guard multiple positions.

Under Control: Plays at his own pace and rarely forces plays.

High Basketball IQ: He makes the right reads and shows maturity beyond his years.


Concerns

Physical Strength: Needs to add muscle to compete against stronger, more physical defenders.

Finishing at the Rim: Struggles to finish through contact, limiting his scoring inside.

Defensive Physicality: He can get overpowered by stronger guards, which affects his ability to contain matchups.


Questions

Can he add enough muscle to handle stronger NBA guards defensively?

Will he develop into a more consistent finisher through contact?

Can he maintain his poise and playmaking under pressure from more physical defenders?


Bottom Line

Tyrese Proctor is a smart, composed guard with size, playmaking instincts, and defensive versatility. His ability to run an offense and make good decisions makes him an appealing prospect. However, his physical strength and finishing ability will be key factors in determining his NBA ceiling. If he can develop his body and expand his scoring ability, Proctor has the tools to be a valuable two-way guard at the next level.

https://www.babcockhoops.com/post/2025-nba-draft-tyrese-proctor-scouting-report#:~:text=Player%20Overview,both%20ends%20of%20the%20floor.


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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#974 » by Voltron914 » Wed May 28, 2025 9:40 pm

so are we definitely using this pick and trading and using our pick for next year and future ones in a deal?
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#975 » by twix2500 » Thu May 29, 2025 12:19 am

Yaxel Lendeborg
Position: Forward 6'8.8 w/out shoes, 7'4" wingspan, 230lb
17.7 pts, 11.4 rbs, 4.2 ast, 35.7 3p%, 1.9 3pa, 1.7 stl, 2.1 blk




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Post#976 » by DayofMourning » Thu May 29, 2025 12:25 am

twix2500 wrote:Yaxel Lendeborg
Position: Forward 6'8.8 w/out shoes, 7'4" wingspan, 230lb
17.7 pts, 11.4 rbs, 4.2 ast, 35.7 3p%, 1.9 3pa, 1.7 stl, 2.1 blk




Just withdrew his name. Xferring to Michigan.
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#977 » by Hallstar » Thu May 29, 2025 1:10 am

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twix2500 wrote:Yaxel Lendeborg
Position: Forward 6'8.8 w/out shoes, 7'4" wingspan, 230lb
17.7 pts, 11.4 rbs, 4.2 ast, 35.7 3p%, 1.9 3pa, 1.7 stl, 2.1 blk




Just withdrew his name. Xferring to Michigan.

Yep, business decision
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Re: **NBA Draft Discussion 2025** 

Post#978 » by lastb1ckman » Thu May 29, 2025 2:03 am

twix2500 wrote:Anyone knows how is Tyrese Proctor's defense?


Very good, its just he probably isn't an NBA pg. More like the gabe Vincent 3&D guard. He really turned it around this season, I was afraid he'd go undrafted.
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Post#979 » by lastb1ckman » Thu May 29, 2025 2:05 am

Aw mannn Pettiford went back, I liked him.
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Post#980 » by lastb1ckman » Thu May 29, 2025 2:06 am

The list of late first year 2nd guys is getting smaller and smaller

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