Let’s never compare Ant to SGA, Jokic, Luka or Giannis

[TheProdigy]

The apparent next face of the league and one of the only true US stars just doesn’t have it. Lot of people say he’s young, but find me an example where someone went from a poor basketball iq (reading defenses, passing) to an elite point of attack player.

Think everyone likes Ants persona so much that they overlooked the HUGE holes in his game. Sad to see and think he is a very talented player but he isn’t going to get to the level SGA, Luka, Jokic and Giannis are already at.

I thought last year might have been a fluke but he’s legit lost out there when asked to make decisions. RIP to Ant ever being compared to the truly elite players.


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Throwing in the towel on a 23 year old. Never change RealGM!

[bluemj32]

Better talent than Wade, but lacks Wade’s killer instincts.

Naw, Wade was skilled as hell. Footwork, playmaking, better scorer, better off the ball.

Ant has always to go

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[Jazz9]

Serious question, what is Ant elite at?
All the other guys are at least elite at one thing.
His best quality is as a scorer and all the other guys mentioned have him beat in that department.

Led the league in 3pters

Shooting 39.5% on high volume is nice but not enough to make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys though.

[brutalitops]

The apparent next face of the league and one of the only true US stars just doesn’t have it. Lot of people say he’s young, but find me an example where someone went from a poor basketball iq (reading defenses, passing) to an elite point of attack player.

Think everyone likes Ants persona so much that they overlooked the HUGE holes in his game. Sad to see and think he is a very talented player but he isn’t going to get to the level SGA, Luka, Jokic and Giannis are already at.

I thought last year might have been a fluke but he’s legit lost out there when asked to make decisions. RIP to Ant ever being compared to the truly elite players.


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Like, compare him? He's 23. Your taking guys who are in their prime and saying a 23 year old won't hit that point. Ant is roughly on the same timetable as those 4 guys. He's come a long way in terms of decision making in the last 18 months it's not too farfetched to believe he'll get there. It took Jordan/Kobe/Hell even SGA 26/27 to get to that point your saying Edwards will never get to.

Give it a rest.

[brutalitops]

Serious question, what is Ant elite at?
All the other guys are at least elite at one thing.
His best quality is as a scorer and all the other guys mentioned have him beat in that department.

Led the league in 3pters

Shooting 39.5% on high volume is nice but not enough to make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys though.

There is like, 5 other guys in history who have shot more then 270 3's in a game and had a 3p% over 38% what are you talking about?

He finished 4th in PPG and bar his rookie season been in the top 20 in the league. Honestly I don't understand what you are saying he's not elite at scoring. If he isn't, nobody is.

[Jazz9]

Led the league in 3pters

Shooting 39.5% on high volume is nice but not enough to make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys though.

There is like, 5 other guys in history who have shot more then 270 3's in a game and had a 3p% over 38% what are you talking about?

Does it make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys, yes or no?
The answer is "no" by the way
And this is the first time in his carreer he's shot above 36.9% from three. I'll wait a bit more to see if this is a one off or something he's gonna build on.
Still doesn't make him an elite scorer in the meantime.

(Malik Beasley made one less 3 than Ant while shooting 41.6%. Let's bring him in the conversation I guess...)

[brutalitops]

Shooting 39.5% on high volume is nice but not enough to make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys though.

There is like, 5 other guys in history who have shot more then 270 3's in a game and had a 3p% over 38% what are you talking about?

Does it make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys, yes or no?
The answer is "no" by the way
And this is the first time in his carreer he's shot above 36.9% from three. I'll wait a bit more to see if this is a one off or something he's gonna build on.
Still doesn't make him an elite scorer in the meantime

Yes it absolutely does.

[Jazz9]

There is like, 5 other guys in history who have shot more then 270 3's in a game and had a 3p% over 38% what are you talking about?

Does it make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys, yes or no?
The answer is "no" by the way
And this is the first time in his carreer he's shot above 36.9% from three. I'll wait a bit more to see if this is a one off or something he's gonna build on.
Still doesn't make him an elite scorer in the meantime

Yes it absolutely does.

No, it makes him a great scorer but absolutely not an "elite" one like those other guys are.
Beasley making just one less three than Ant while shooting 41.6% doesn't make him an elite scorer either.
The threes having so much weight that it makes you an elite amongst the elite is only valid for someone like Curry

[tsherkin]

There is like, 5 other guys in history who have shot more then 270 3's in a game and had a 3p% over 38% what are you talking about?

Does it make him an elite scorer in the same breath as the other guys, yes or no?
The answer is "no" by the way
And this is the first time in his carreer he's shot above 36.9% from three. I'll wait a bit more to see if this is a one off or something he's gonna build on.
Still doesn't make him an elite scorer in the meantime

Yes it absolutely does.

It really doesn't. He doesn't compare to the top scorers in the league right now, and his separation compared to his peers isn't as good as we saw from guys like Wade, Steph, etc. He very much isn't in the same tier of scorers as Giannis or SGA and so forth. He did have a fantastic season shooting the 3, though, and that helped him have the best RS of his career.

He's a good player, despite coming up pretty short these past two games. No need to overrate him to compensate for people going too hard in the other direction.

[Alatan]

Ant is good but he will never be a playmaker for others. He doesnt have the sight for it. That severly limits him as an offensive engine but on the other hand he can be a lockdown defender.

Ant needs a point guard next to him.

[Infinite Llamas]

The apparent next face of the league and one of the only true US stars just doesn’t have it. Lot of people say he’s young, but find me an example where someone went from a poor basketball iq (reading defenses, passing) to an elite point of attack player.

Think everyone likes Ants persona so much that they overlooked the HUGE holes in his game. Sad to see and think he is a very talented player but he isn’t going to get to the level SGA, Luka, Jokic and Giannis are already at.

I thought last year might have been a fluke but he’s legit lost out there when asked to make decisions. RIP to Ant ever being compared to the truly elite players.


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Like, compare him? He's 23. Your taking guys who are in their prime and saying a 23 year old won't hit that point. Ant is roughly on the same timetable as those 4 guys. He's come a long way in terms of decision making in the last 18 months it's not too farfetched to believe he'll get there. It took Jordan/Kobe/Hell even SGA 26/27 to get to that point your saying Edwards will never get to.

Give it a rest.

Jordan, after his 5th season at the age of 25, had an MVP, a DPOY and 3 -All NBA first teams. He was an All league guy from literally his first year.

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[NZB2323]

I think Ant is overrated, but he’s also 23. When SGA was 23 he had never made an all-star team.

[picko]

He's 23. None of those guys - outside of perhaps Luka - were finished products at 23. Certainly none of them were legitimate MVP candidates.

While I personally think Ant is somewhat overrated - it's foolish to pretend that his game doesn't have room to grow and he cannot mature into a vastly better version of his current self. As so many great basketballers have done in the past.

[GreenBloodedC]

It was really too soon to crown him. Not hate to Ant, but it was just too soon.

[whatisacenter]

The premature crowning rubbed me the wrong way and his character does him no favors.

Good player and time will tell the rest.

[Optms]

Better question- who was comparing him to those guys? So much cap.

[Black Jack]

Better talent than Wade, but lacks Wade’s killer instincts.

crazy talk, young Wade was visibly better.

[ball_takes23]

Wade was more skilled. Ant looks like a two tricky pony in the playoffs. Either jacks up a 3 or slashes to the rim. No footwork, no play out of the post. Wade's crossover package was also greater.

Add the killer instinct like you said and you're comparing two players on a different planet. Yes Ant is 23 but the age excuse is only going to last for so long if he doesn't add more offense to his game besides just taking a bunch of 3's.

Ant played completely different when the Wolves only had KAT before trading for Gobert and there was space (albeit much worse team)

He's adjusted to his teammates

He was beginning to show some of it last playoffs, but this season it's been all about the 3's. At a high clip for sure, but I think in the playoffs having a game where you can play out of the post is greater. He showed glimpses of it last season against Denver.

Having a serviceable post game would definitely help but being only 6’4” I don’t see him ever becoming elite in that regard. If he was 6’6” like Mike/Kobe I would feel WAY more bullish on his future potential,
I think a 6’4” guard with limited play making abilities can only go so far in this league

[ball_takes23]

Better talent than Wade, but lacks Wade’s killer instincts.

Wade was a way better defender at the same age, way better off ball/slasher, much better playmaker, much better at drawing fouls and better driver/finisher around the rim. And arguably more athletic

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Pretty much better at everything besides shooting 3s