Gobert to the Peach State with Chicago

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Re: Gobert to the Peach State with Chicago 

Post#21 » by ReggiesKnicks » Thu May 29, 2025 3:42 pm

Mavrelous wrote:ATL Out: Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann, #22
ATL In: Rudy Gobert

I'd use #22 to dump Mann and just re-sign NAW and NAZ.


Why dump Mann? He helps Minnesota win games.
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Re: Gobert to the Peach State with Chicago 

Post#22 » by Mavrelous » Thu May 29, 2025 3:44 pm

ReggiesKnicks wrote:
Mavrelous wrote:ATL Out: Onyeka Okongwu, Terrence Mann, #22
ATL In: Rudy Gobert

I'd use #22 to dump Mann and just re-sign NAW and NAZ.


Why dump Mann? He helps Minnesota win games.

Because they want to stay below tax and want to sign their own players.
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Re: Gobert to the Peach State with Chicago 

Post#23 » by Ball4life32 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:45 pm

hugepatsfan wrote:
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hugepatsfan wrote:Yeah agree with everyone here that MIN is better off without CHI in this. Vuc is very duplicative with Reid in terms of what they each can/can't bring so OO is a better compliment. Mann fits well as a bench piece pretty much everywhere.

I think ATL would have to pony up the lottery pick themselves here. OO/Mann/#13 for Gobert seems... fair to me.

Trae/Daniels/Risacher/JJ/Gobert is a preeeeeety nice core for ATL though IMO. love the complimentary nature of everything there. I think you have to stay on the lookout to eventually move Risacher plus other stuff for someone that's more of a scoring compliment to Trae on the wing (doesn't seem Risacher will be that guy but you never know). Still feels like a LOT of their offense would be dependent on Trae having the ball all the time so a scoring wing would diversify it a bit more.


I think you may be selling Risacher, Jalen Johnson and Trae as an offensive piece a little short. Risacher is only 20 and there is no reason he can't be an 18-20 PPG scorer in the next 2-3 years.

If Risacher and Jalen never get to the level of an elite 2nd option, then Atlanta will have a wealth of assets to trade for one, including the 2027 NOP/MIL 1st and all their 1sts in 2028 and beyond.

Risacher will also hold the value as the main centerpiece to acquire a real #2 option.


Maybe I am selling them short, but it's not really about how many points they score, it's more about how they score. Jalen Johnson was assisted on 63% of his 2s and 96% of his 3s last year. Risacher was 73% and 98%. Not saying that those guys won't get better at creating their own shot (especially Risacher as he's only 19), but I'm not sure I really forecast either of them really being "that guy". Daniels is ore of an off ball cutter too and Gobert's only offensive game is a lob threat. I think over the course of a regular season you'd have plenty of guys scoring good per game totals, but a lot of it would be dependent on Trae creating for them and come playoff time not sure that's great. I think you'd eventually want to swap Risacher for someone on the wing who can diversify that some.

Jalen Johnson is a 4 who really only shoots wide open 3’s, so not surprised it’s that high (that’s why he isn’t a wing or a 3 like a lot of ppl think) but I think he absolutely can create inside the arc even without Trae…he put up 17+/9/5 without Trae last year and basically plays like a Point Forward with his ball handling and passing ability. I think when playing with Trae who’s giving you 11-12 assist a night those %’s will be naturally high. Too early for me too tell on Risacher who’s more of a wing.

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