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Post#1201 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 29, 2025 3:14 pm

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Celtics for Brown and all the picks


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Post#1202 » by playa-hater » Thu May 29, 2025 3:17 pm

gammajamma wrote:What does a holiday to Minnesota deal look like?


For me starts with the Wolves 17th pick. Fillers on players will need to be worked out. Again might need a 3rd team for some salary dump.
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Post#1203 » by playa-hater » Thu May 29, 2025 3:20 pm

Don't think Brown will be traded, but Houston, Atlanta, SAS and Brooklyn would be my top 4 possible destinations.
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Post#1204 » by Curmudgeon » Thu May 29, 2025 3:21 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:Have we traded Brown for the #2 pick yet?
Jrue for Gafford yet?

No??


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I love the proposed (dare I say "rumored" ) deal with San Antonio that sends the #2 pick, Vassell and Sochan to Boston for Brown. You could then bundle #2 and other draft assets to Dallas for #1 and get Flagg.
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Post#1205 » by cl2117 » Thu May 29, 2025 3:42 pm

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Larry_Russell wrote:Have we traded Brown for the #2 pick yet?
Jrue for Gafford yet?

No??
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I love the proposed (dare I say "rumored" ) deal with San Antonio that sends the #2 pick, Vassell and Sochan to Boston for Brown. You could then bundle #2 and other draft assets to Dallas for #1 and get Flagg.

There's the NBC Sports deal Forsberg put out as well:

BOS: #2, #14, 2028 swap, Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson
SAS: Brown

I mean say what you will about trading JB, but that's a pretty damn good haul. I like Vassell and Keldon Johnson isn't bad either, solid wings that could look better alongside better talent. #2, #14, #28, #32 in the draft. C's could draft multiple projects and wheel and deal to get below the aprons/tax. Tank again next year and add another top 10 pick to Tatum/White and a bunch of young talent.

I'm not in love with any of the top guys after Flagg, but if the C's were incredibly high on one it would be a tempting offer. Ace Bailey gives me Tatum vibes and either of Harper or Edgecombe would be stellar backcourt pairings with White. Wouldn't be surprised if they all are busts either though.

I can't imagine San Antonio rush things, especially when you look at how OKC is lined up for such an impressively long window, but if they did I would be happily surprised they offered that kind of package.
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Post#1206 » by ConstableGeneva » Thu May 29, 2025 3:46 pm

I don't think JB is worth a top 3 pick or could be a centerpiece in a Giannis trade, but I'm willing to be shocked.
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Post#1207 » by Celts17Pride » Thu May 29, 2025 3:51 pm

I personally don't see Giannis having interest in Boston with Tatum out. That situation is not very different than the one he would be leaving. That being said, Giannis is the type of player that you would have to consider moving Jaylen Brown in a package for him. I just don't see it given the 2nd apron, salary cap issues etc. I mean Giannis actually makes more than Jaylen Brown. If Giannis leaves the Bucks (50/50) and wants to stay in the East then it's probably the Knicks.

I'm guessing the staying in the East thing is a Windy opinion as opposed to a Giannis desire.
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Post#1208 » by 165bows » Thu May 29, 2025 3:55 pm

ConstableGeneva wrote:I don't think JB is worth a top 3 pick or could be a centerpiece in a Giannis trade, but I'm willing to be shocked.

I think he's def worth a #2 pick in this draft, Devin Vassell coming back and having his $ kick out someone else on this team and I'm going to riot.

And by riot I mean I will be a pissy bitch posting here all the time.
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Post#1209 » by Fierce1 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:00 pm

OKC and Indy showing us quantity beats quality.

Both those teams have depth and only 1 or 2 star players.

Cs better off having JT and JB and 8 good role players.

That's really what the new CBA will force teams to do.
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Post#1210 » by 165bows » Thu May 29, 2025 4:01 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I personally don't see Giannis having interest in Boston with Tatum out. That situation is not very different than the one he would be leaving. That being said, Giannis is the type of player that you would have to consider moving Jaylen Brown in a package for him. I just don't see it given the 2nd apron, salary cap issues etc. I mean Giannis actually makes more than Jaylen Brown. If Giannis leaves the Bucks (50/50) and wants to stay in the East then it's probably the Knicks.

I'm guessing the staying in the East thing is a Windy opinion as opposed to a Giannis desire.

Agree with a lot of this - tough to even construct a deal, Boston would have to iinm get under and stay under the 2nd apron so they would have shed $20M+ first thing as a prerequisite.

I thin Tatum is close enough to a return it's not that big of a deal, but I also don't see Boston as the first choice or even a high choice. A lot of these guys just don't want to come here.

For me it's a leverage type of play, float Boston out there to make something else happen. I'd guess he wants NY/BRK but it's just a lot tougher to pull those off due to lack of trade assets or competitiveness.

But who know Jrue said he wants to stay and compete, and thinks Boston still has what it takes to win. Maybe he knows something we don't.

Edit: Idk maybe it's not as crazy as it sounds. I watched that clip and it did have the sort of limited hangout put a crazy idea out there in the open for discussion vibe to it.
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Post#1211 » by chrisab123 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:02 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Have we traded Brown for the #2 pick yet?
Jrue for Gafford yet?

No??
****

I love the proposed (dare I say "rumored" ) deal with San Antonio that sends the #2 pick, Vassell and Sochan to Boston for Brown. You could then bundle #2 and other draft assets to Dallas for #1 and get Flagg.

There's the NBC Sports deal Forsberg put out as well:

BOS: #2, #14, 2028 swap, Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson
SAS: Brown

I mean say what you will about trading JB, but that's a pretty damn good haul. I like Vassell and Keldon Johnson isn't bad either, solid wings that could look better alongside better talent. #2, #14, #28, #32 in the draft. C's could draft multiple projects and wheel and deal to get below the aprons/tax. Tank again next year and add another top 10 pick to Tatum/White and a bunch of young talent.

I'm not in love with any of the top guys after Flagg, but if the C's were incredibly high on one it would be a tempting offer. Ace Bailey gives me Tatum vibes and either of Harper or Edgecombe would be stellar backcourt pairings with White. Wouldn't be surprised if they all are busts either though.

I can't imagine San Antonio rush things, especially when you look at how OKC is lined up for such an impressively long window, but if they did I would be happily surprised they offered that kind of package.


This is not a good draft. If you are going to trade Brown you can do better.
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Post#1212 » by neno » Thu May 29, 2025 4:07 pm

cl2117 wrote:
Curmudgeon wrote:
Larry_Russell wrote:Have we traded Brown for the #2 pick yet?
Jrue for Gafford yet?

No??
****

I love the proposed (dare I say "rumored" ) deal with San Antonio that sends the #2 pick, Vassell and Sochan to Boston for Brown. You could then bundle #2 and other draft assets to Dallas for #1 and get Flagg.

There's the NBC Sports deal Forsberg put out as well:

BOS: #2, #14, 2028 swap, Devin Vassell, Keldon Johnson
SAS: Brown

I mean say what you will about trading JB, but that's a pretty damn good haul. I like Vassell and Keldon Johnson isn't bad either, solid wings that could look better alongside better talent. #2, #14, #28, #32 in the draft. C's could draft multiple projects and wheel and deal to get below the aprons/tax. Tank again next year and add another top 10 pick to Tatum/White and a bunch of young talent.

I'm not in love with any of the top guys after Flagg, but if the C's were incredibly high on one it would be a tempting offer. Ace Bailey gives me Tatum vibes and either of Harper or Edgecombe would be stellar backcourt pairings with White. Wouldn't be surprised if they all are busts either though.

I can't imagine San Antonio rush things, especially when you look at how OKC is lined up for such an impressively long window, but if they did I would be happily surprised they offered that kind of package.

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Post#1213 » by 165bows » Thu May 29, 2025 4:23 pm

Anyways, JB/KP/PP and a pair of 1st round picks to MKE, Giannis to Boston, Hauser/Portis/Connaughton and a first round pick to BRK does work in fanspo trade machine and gets Boston out of the tax albeit a bunch of roster/FA spots left to back fill.
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Post#1214 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 29, 2025 4:36 pm

Celts17Pride wrote:I personally don't see Giannis having interest in Boston with Tatum out. That situation is not very different than the one he would be leaving. That being said, Giannis is the type of player that you would have to consider moving Jaylen Brown in a package for him. I just don't see it given the 2nd apron, salary cap issues etc. I mean Giannis actually makes more than Jaylen Brown. If Giannis leaves the Bucks (50/50) and wants to stay in the East then it's probably the Knicks.

I'm guessing the staying in the East thing is a Windy opinion as opposed to a Giannis desire.



I can, because he drug the corpse of Lopez and the clorpse of Middleton, no bench, portis and lillard and later on...Kuzma to the playoffs.


What can he do with Jrue, White, Kristaps and some depth???

A playoff threat, then a returning all NBA 1st team member in JT.
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Post#1215 » by Celts17Pride » Thu May 29, 2025 4:38 pm

Larry_Russell wrote:
Celts17Pride wrote:I personally don't see Giannis having interest in Boston with Tatum out. That situation is not very different than the one he would be leaving. That being said, Giannis is the type of player that you would have to consider moving Jaylen Brown in a package for him. I just don't see it given the 2nd apron, salary cap issues etc. I mean Giannis actually makes more than Jaylen Brown. If Giannis leaves the Bucks (50/50) and wants to stay in the East then it's probably the Knicks.

I'm guessing the staying in the East thing is a Windy opinion as opposed to a Giannis desire.



I can, because he drug the corpse of Lopez and the clorpse of Middleton, no bench, portis and lillard and later on...Kuzma to the playoffs.


What can he do with Jrue, White, Kristaps and some depth???

A playoff threat, then a returning all NBA 1st team member in JT.

We'll see. I wouldn't bet on it.
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Post#1216 » by Larry_Russell » Thu May 29, 2025 4:42 pm

165bows wrote:
ConstableGeneva wrote:I don't think JB is worth a top 3 pick or could be a centerpiece in a Giannis trade, but I'm willing to be shocked.

I think he's def worth a #2 pick in this draft, Devin Vassell coming back and having his $ kick out someone else on this team and I'm going to riot.

And by riot I mean I will be a pissy bitch posting here all the time.



If you are getting the #2 pick and Vassell, then yeah, someone else has to go.

And with White and most likely Harper, Jrue can go.

Also with Vassell and Scheierman....Hauser can go.
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Post#1217 » by chrisab123 » Thu May 29, 2025 4:54 pm

165bows wrote:Anyways, JB/KP/PP and a pair of 1st round picks to MKE, Giannis to Boston, Hauser/Portis/Connaughton and a first round pick to BRK does work in fanspo trade machine and gets Boston out of the tax albeit a bunch of roster/FA spots left to back fill.


So in this scenario we have Jrue White Tatum and Giannis? I’ll be honest, I don't hate it depending on how it shakes out with the FA signings.
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Post#1218 » by playa-hater » Thu May 29, 2025 4:57 pm

I won't say any of the above trade ideas can't or won't happen, but I just see them as Very Optimistic.
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Post#1219 » by Celts17Pride » Thu May 29, 2025 4:58 pm

chrisab123 wrote:
165bows wrote:Anyways, JB/KP/PP and a pair of 1st round picks to MKE, Giannis to Boston, Hauser/Portis/Connaughton and a first round pick to BRK does work in fanspo trade machine and gets Boston out of the tax albeit a bunch of roster/FA spots left to back fill.


So in this scenario we have Jrue White Tatum and Giannis? I’ll be honest, I don't hate it depending on how it shakes out with the FA signings.

Celtics would still be over the 2nd apron and it would be more vet min signings unless they moved Hauser too in a separate deal.

Edit: I didn't see the Hauser part.
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Post#1220 » by djFan71 » Thu May 29, 2025 5:00 pm

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jars wrote:They made the Luka trade. Nobody knows what Nico Harrison will do.

Nico is not that stupid.


Nico knew he was getting Flagg all along. Let’s not play stupid. I don’t need Chris Mannix telling me it’s impossible to rig the lottery. It’s no different than all the people that say we landed on the moon.
Nico, according to his “timeline” should trade for Giannis. Then trade for Jrue. That’s a title team, especially if Kyrie comes back. But he won’t. He will draft Flagg like a bitch because that gives him an out and more years as GM


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