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My preference would still be Brown to the Nets for #8 with nothing coming back. It's clean, you have the exact same team back (except Brown) and the guy you pick with #8 might turn out to be pretty good. And any other deals you make would be purely for basketball reasons. No need for any more salary dumps.
Would the Nets do it? They would surely be tempted. They were a 26 win team and they need to sell tickets.
Would the Nets do it? They would surely be tempted. They were a 26 win team and they need to sell tickets.
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A Jrue trade that takes a lot of long term money off the books, doesn't require draft assets and returns a young player who may still yet be a productive NBA player could be with Miami
Miami trades Terry Rozier ($26.6 expiring) and Jamie Jaquez ($3.8) for Jrue Holiday
Rozier obviously is primarily a nuisance at this point in his career, but he'd just be a contract. Ideally, before the trade deadline, Terry would be moved again for a player making less money. Jaquez had a tough sophomore slump but now represents a chance to bet on toughness and BBIQ bouncing back -- jaquez was pretty good as a rookie. And I still like Jaquez as a connective jack-of-all trades guy and I think he's undervalued right now.
Miami trades Terry Rozier ($26.6 expiring) and Jamie Jaquez ($3.8) for Jrue Holiday
Rozier obviously is primarily a nuisance at this point in his career, but he'd just be a contract. Ideally, before the trade deadline, Terry would be moved again for a player making less money. Jaquez had a tough sophomore slump but now represents a chance to bet on toughness and BBIQ bouncing back -- jaquez was pretty good as a rookie. And I still like Jaquez as a connective jack-of-all trades guy and I think he's undervalued right now.
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Jaquez is not a fit for Mazzulla's offense.
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well, right
but Mazzulla offense needs a revision to add more complexity inside the seams (and reduce variance) to avoid future playoff upsets
but Mazzulla offense needs a revision to add more complexity inside the seams (and reduce variance) to avoid future playoff upsets
Curmudgeon wrote:Jaquez is not a fit for Mazzulla's offense.
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redslastlaugh wrote:well, right
but Mazzulla offense needs a revision to add more complexity inside the seams (and reduce variance) to avoid future playoff upsetsCurmudgeon wrote:Jaquez is not a fit for Mazzulla's offense.
Well, they need a post presence on offense who doesn't have mononucleosis (or whatever it was).
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Trade JB for a crystal ball and the guy the crystal ball says who the next SGA will be. SGA was traded for PG (with a bunch of picks) way back when.
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ConstableGeneva wrote:Trade JB for a crystal ball and the guy the crystal ball says who the next SGA will be. SGA was traded for PG (with a bunch of picks) way back when.
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ConstableGeneva wrote:Trade JB for a crystal ball and the guy the crystal ball says who the next SGA will be.
Sounds good to me, so long as the crystal ball is on rookie scale and I can keep White, Jrue, Pritchard and Hauser.
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Brown to Houston
for
FVV (Option declined as part of trade), Tari Eason, #10, 2027 Brooklyn swap 1st.
Saves around 45 million in salary.
Draft Coward, Resign Horford (if he wants), trade flexibility opens WAAAAAY up.
Jrue/Pritch
White/Scheierman
Coward/Hauser
Eason/Horford
Kristaps/Kornet
1 year soft tank, and add in pieces that have a chance to grow. Eason is a break out candidate, imo, Scheierman as well, and Coward might be a big draft steal.
for
FVV (Option declined as part of trade), Tari Eason, #10, 2027 Brooklyn swap 1st.
Saves around 45 million in salary.
Draft Coward, Resign Horford (if he wants), trade flexibility opens WAAAAAY up.
Jrue/Pritch
White/Scheierman
Coward/Hauser
Eason/Horford
Kristaps/Kornet
1 year soft tank, and add in pieces that have a chance to grow. Eason is a break out candidate, imo, Scheierman as well, and Coward might be a big draft steal.
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ConstableGeneva wrote:Trade JB for a crystal ball and the guy the crystal ball says who the next SGA will be. SGA was traded for PG (with a bunch of picks) way back when.
The Celtics apparently had the crystal ball in the palm of their hands already with SGA. When the Clippers inquired about Kyrie they had SGA on the roster. To prove that the Clippers didn't value him and he was available , they traded him to OKC anyway without Irving in hand.. It was also rumored if the Celtics never traded for Irving and kept the pick , Ainge liked SGA over anyone else at #8 including Colin Sexton. But he was fixated on Irving/ Anthony Davis. Imagine, Brown, Tatum and SGA in three consecutive drafts.
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Brown to Houston
Fred Van Vleet, Kelly Olynyk and #10 and #28 to 76ers
Paul George, Kristaps Porzingis and #3 to the Pelicans
Tari Eason, Pick #7, Trey Murphy3 and CJ McCollum to Celtics?
Houston looks pretty dope
Sheppard
Green
Brown
Brooks
Sengun
Philly is much better off
FVV
Maxey
Oubre
??
Embiid
Pelicans should make playoffs pretty easily
Murray
Jones
George
Zion
KP
Celtics should stay the course while clearing 23 mill in salary. Draft Maluach at 7, McCollum gets shopped as an expiring contact Jrue gets sold to the highest bidder.
Jrue/Pritchard
White/McCollum
Murphy3/Scheierman
Eason/Hauser
Maluac/Kornet
Fred Van Vleet, Kelly Olynyk and #10 and #28 to 76ers
Paul George, Kristaps Porzingis and #3 to the Pelicans
Tari Eason, Pick #7, Trey Murphy3 and CJ McCollum to Celtics?
Houston looks pretty dope
Sheppard
Green
Brown
Brooks
Sengun
Philly is much better off
FVV
Maxey
Oubre
??
Embiid
Pelicans should make playoffs pretty easily
Murray
Jones
George
Zion
KP
Celtics should stay the course while clearing 23 mill in salary. Draft Maluach at 7, McCollum gets shopped as an expiring contact Jrue gets sold to the highest bidder.
Jrue/Pritchard
White/McCollum
Murphy3/Scheierman
Eason/Hauser
Maluac/Kornet
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Any type of JB trade is tough because we’re not in a full rebuild.
A JB trade has to either: 1) bring back a better player (tough to do), 2) bring back a younger player that’s worse than JB but might be on a similar level by the time JT comes back, or 3) a bunch of non-player assets that you think you can flip later for a guy that fits the criteria for 1 or 2.
1 is obviously hard because why would a team give up a better player to take JB who’s a vet? Those teams usually trade their “better than jb” guy for a rebuilding package if they decide to trade their guy. Is there a 3 team trade possible? Maybe but hard to keep that under wraps.
2) Who’s the team giving up the younger player that can be as good or better than JB in two years? This scenario is only feasible if the celtics are higher on that younger player than the team that he currently plays for.
3) Getting draft assets for JB and waiting for the right trade candidate to come up sounds nice but there’s no guarantee someone worth that becomes available before JT returns. There’s a risk that JT comes back to play with no JB and a bunch of “assets” and you might burn another contention year
A JB trade has to either: 1) bring back a better player (tough to do), 2) bring back a younger player that’s worse than JB but might be on a similar level by the time JT comes back, or 3) a bunch of non-player assets that you think you can flip later for a guy that fits the criteria for 1 or 2.
1 is obviously hard because why would a team give up a better player to take JB who’s a vet? Those teams usually trade their “better than jb” guy for a rebuilding package if they decide to trade their guy. Is there a 3 team trade possible? Maybe but hard to keep that under wraps.
2) Who’s the team giving up the younger player that can be as good or better than JB in two years? This scenario is only feasible if the celtics are higher on that younger player than the team that he currently plays for.
3) Getting draft assets for JB and waiting for the right trade candidate to come up sounds nice but there’s no guarantee someone worth that becomes available before JT returns. There’s a risk that JT comes back to play with no JB and a bunch of “assets” and you might burn another contention year
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ConstableGeneva wrote:Trade JB for a crystal ball and the guy the crystal ball says who the next SGA will be. SGA was traded for PG (with a bunch of picks) way back when.
The Celtics apparently had the crystal ball in the palm of their hands already with SGA. When the Clippers inquired about Kyrie they had SGA on the roster. To prove that the Clippers didn't value him and he was available , they traded him to OKC anyway without Irving in hand.. It was also rumored if the Celtics never traded for Irving and kept the pick , Ainge liked SGA over anyone else at #8 including Colin Sexton. But he was fixated on Irving/ Anthony Davis. Imagine, Brown, Tatum and SGA in three consecutive drafts.
Brad Stevens on fans who want the Celtics to tank: "I don’t think they’ll like me all that much then."
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The core of a Giannis deal would ideally be:
JB to NO
Giannis to BOS
Young players and picks to MIL (including their own picks back from NO)
JB to NO
Giannis to BOS
Young players and picks to MIL (including their own picks back from NO)
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There's no match with MIN team that already has salary issues.
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Darko Miličić ,Merkele Fultz
Your top picks of today sometimes fall and fall badly.Why trade Jb for 2 PICK.You think that will make your team better?Ahaha.
Only and only trade JB For Giannis.That could work.Rest of those trades wouldnt.While you at it.Can you make a trade where i get Jennifer Lawrence for our 28 th pick.

Your top picks of today sometimes fall and fall badly.Why trade Jb for 2 PICK.You think that will make your team better?Ahaha.

Only and only trade JB For Giannis.That could work.Rest of those trades wouldnt.While you at it.Can you make a trade where i get Jennifer Lawrence for our 28 th pick.




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fallguy wrote:The core of a Giannis deal would ideally be:
JB to NO
Giannis to BOS
Young players and picks to MIL (including their own picks back from NO)
I’ve floated this one but an extended one that includes KP because 1) celtics need to get under 2nd apron because Giannis makes more than JB so any type of aggregation means youre hardcapped at the 2nd apron and 2) if NO keeps Zion, they need a stretch 5.
How far can White-Holiday-Hauser-Giannis-Horford
With pritchard, kornet, and one of baylor/walsh being the 8th man go next year? Assuming jt isn’t back
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yeleven11 wrote:Any type of JB trade is tough because we’re not in a full rebuild.
A JB trade has to either: 1) bring back a better player (tough to do), 2) bring back a younger player that’s worse than JB but might be on a similar level by the time JT comes back, or 3) a bunch of non-player assets that you think you can flip later for a guy that fits the criteria for 1 or 2.
No, that's not right. There is a #4, which is letting you keep the other assets you already have instead of having to trade them away for financial reasons.
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yeleven11 wrote:fallguy wrote:The core of a Giannis deal would ideally be:
JB to NO
Giannis to BOS
Young players and picks to MIL (including their own picks back from NO)
I’ve floated this one but an extended one that includes KP because 1) celtics need to get under 2nd apron because Giannis makes more than JB so any type of aggregation means youre hardcapped at the 2nd apron and 2) if NO keeps Zion, they need a stretch 5.
How far can White-Holiday-Hauser-Giannis-Horford
With pritchard, kornet, and one of baylor/walsh being the 8th man go next year? Assuming jt isn’t back
The ceiling of that team is probably the finals. The likelihood they'd reach it? Not amazing.
NO is the x-factor here. What do they want to do? Compete presumably. Not sure they have the stomach to bottom out.
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If the owners want to save on tax (probably not get under it), still sell tickets, and make it deep in the playoffs even without Tatum, find creative ways to acquire Giannis (contingent on him wanting to compete for titles in Boston w/ Tatum in his age 32+).
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