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2025 Draft Thread - Part 2

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1501 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu May 29, 2025 4:49 pm

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Jay81 wrote:Dat2u says he is skillless so I’m gonna pass lol


Well tbh I didn't know he was legit C size until just now. I was viewing him through the lense of a PF, comparing his skill level to other Fs.

I have to re-evaluate him as a rim running C and see how he stacks out against other bigs before really saying strongly how I feel about him. I still worry about his hands though.


If his hands are an issue, it doesn't show up in the statistics. His turnover rate is low, and his efficiency percentages (aside from the 3 ball) are high. His main issue looks like he fouls a lot, which means he may struggles with positional defense or defensive IQ in general.

All in all, seems like the ideal mold of clay at 18 years old.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1502 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu May 29, 2025 5:03 pm

This piece of clay has potential, and that piece of clay has potential...

After 2 or 3 years on the potter's wheel, a couple of pieces will be ready for the fiery furnace...
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1503 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Thu May 29, 2025 5:10 pm

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26. Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan)
31. Alex Condon (Florida)
38. Tahaad Pettiford (Auburn)
41. Milos Uzan (Houston)
42. Boogie Fland (Florida)
43. Labaron Philon (Alabama)
44. Isaiah Evans (Duke)
46. Darrion Williams (NC State)
51. Miles Byrd (San Diego State)
56. Karter Knox (Arkansas)
58. Mackenzie Mgbako (Texas A&M)
64. PJ Haggerty (Kansas State)
72. Otega Oweh (Kentucky)
80. Bruce Thornton (Ohio State)
https://www.axios.com/local/san-diego/2025/05/28/miles-byrd-withdraws-nba-draft-returns-to-sdsu

I think Miles Byrd should have stayed in the draft. His combine and his defense this season were good.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1504 » by pcbothwel » Thu May 29, 2025 5:56 pm

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26. Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan)
31. Alex Condon (Florida)
38. Tahaad Pettiford (Auburn)
41. Milos Uzan (Houston)
42. Boogie Fland (Florida)
43. Labaron Philon (Alabama)
44. Isaiah Evans (Duke)
46. Darrion Williams (NC State)
51. Miles Byrd (San Diego State)
56. Karter Knox (Arkansas)
58. Mackenzie Mgbako (Texas A&M)
64. PJ Haggerty (Kansas State)
72. Otega Oweh (Kentucky)
80. Bruce Thornton (Ohio State)
https://www.axios.com/local/san-diego/2025/05/28/miles-byrd-withdraws-nba-draft-returns-to-sdsu

I think Miles Byrd should have stayed in the draft. His combine and his defense thjs season were good.


Ah damn it. Byrd was my #1 target with our 2nd.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1505 » by WizarDynasty » Thu May 29, 2025 8:33 pm

Just curious what the board thinks of Kasparas Jakucionis. Is he better than Tre Johnson. Both are defensive liabilities.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1506 » by nate33 » Thu May 29, 2025 8:38 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Just curious what the board thinks of Kasparas Jakucionis. Is he better than Tre Johnson. Both are defensive liabilities.

Yeah, he looks exactly like Curry:

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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1507 » by WizarDynasty » Thu May 29, 2025 9:05 pm

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WizarDynasty wrote:Just curious what the board thinks of Kasparas Jakucionis. Is he better than Tre Johnson. Both are defensive liabilities.

Yeah, he looks exactly like Curry:

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Yeah I don't care about averages, I care about season totals. Averages don't take into account volume and efficiency combined. Looking at them from volume and efficiency per season... just those two raw numbers, are they similar?

Why are we using Curry's numbers, Curry is Top 20 player of all time who's father was an NBA 3 point specialist who regularly competed in NBA 3 point contest. Very rare to have a player being trained from birth by Top NBA 3 point shooting specialist to shoot 3's. That's like a hitting the lotta for 50 million cash pot. MOre realistic comparison in Tre Johnson season totals.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1508 » by closg00 » Thu May 29, 2025 9:05 pm

pcbothwel wrote:
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26. Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan)
31. Alex Condon (Florida)
38. Tahaad Pettiford (Auburn)
41. Milos Uzan (Houston)
42. Boogie Fland (Florida)
43. Labaron Philon (Alabama)
44. Isaiah Evans (Duke)
46. Darrion Williams (NC State)
51. Miles Byrd (San Diego State)
56. Karter Knox (Arkansas)
58. Mackenzie Mgbako (Texas A&M)
64. PJ Haggerty (Kansas State)
72. Otega Oweh (Kentucky)
80. Bruce Thornton (Ohio State)
https://www.axios.com/local/san-diego/2025/05/28/miles-byrd-withdraws-nba-draft-returns-to-sdsu

I think Miles Byrd should have stayed in the draft. His combine and his defense thjs season were good.


Ah damn it. Byrd was my #1 target with our 2nd.


…and I liked Pettiford.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1509 » by closg00 » Thu May 29, 2025 9:22 pm

Still love out-there for Queen, he is going to be that guy in 3-4 years if his body works-out.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1510 » by Dat2U » Thu May 29, 2025 9:43 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Just curious what the board thinks of Kasparas Jakucionis. Is he better than Tre Johnson. Both are defensive liabilities.


I like Kasparas. Best P&R guard in the draft. To be honest I have him 6th on my board although I'd rather trade down if he's the best available. Tre is 4th but I put Tre on a different tier because of his shooting versatility. As far as defensive liabilities, I think Tre has the length to be at passable defender. Kasparas, I worry if he's capable of defending PGs although his effort seems decent.

KJ also had a significant dip in production after an injury he played through so I cut him some slack there.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1511 » by Dat2U » Thu May 29, 2025 9:46 pm

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26. Yaxel Lendeborg (Michigan)
31. Alex Condon (Florida)
38. Tahaad Pettiford (Auburn)
41. Milos Uzan (Houston)
42. Boogie Fland (Florida)
43. Labaron Philon (Alabama)
44. Isaiah Evans (Duke)
46. Darrion Williams (NC State)
51. Miles Byrd (San Diego State)
56. Karter Knox (Arkansas)
58. Mackenzie Mgbako (Texas A&M)
64. PJ Haggerty (Kansas State)
72. Otega Oweh (Kentucky)
80. Bruce Thornton (Ohio State)
https://www.axios.com/local/san-diego/2025/05/28/miles-byrd-withdraws-nba-draft-returns-to-sdsu

I think Miles Byrd should have stayed in the draft. His combine and his defense this season were good.


This impacts our 2nd rd pick more than anything as some of good depth in the draft is going back. Yaxel is the only one I'm torn about because he was in heavy consideration at 18 for me.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1512 » by mhd » Thu May 29, 2025 10:30 pm

I think we need to trade one of our firsts for a future 1st if possible. One GSW fan was OK for trading 18 straight up for lowering the protections on the 2030 GSW 1st we own to top 8 protected (currently it is top 20 protected).

My dream scenario is to trade 6+2026 1st that is the worst of OKC/Hou/LAC (will be 28-30 basically) to Orlando for Orlando's 2026 Phoenix swap rights. Basically, assuming our 2026 1st doesn't convey to the Knicks (it is top 8 protected), this trade nets us our pick AND Phoenix's 2026 1st.

If Brooklyn wants Frears at 6, I'd want at least one future Knicks pick that they own in exchange for moving down to their pick as well.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1513 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Thu May 29, 2025 11:31 pm

The draft I want for the Wizards ....

#6. Carter Bryant
#18 Drake Powell
#40 Yanic Konan Niederhauser


Bring in these 3 rookies, all athletic, defense first, positional size, length, high motor, team oriented, hard working, high upside.

Not players who will come in and shoot it every time they touch it. Not players who will not give effort on D or can't defend. Not players who will go ISO and dribble the air out the ball til 5 seconds on shot and go 1 on 3 while everyone stands and watches. NO.

Bring in these 3. Deal Poole + Kispert to a team looking for offense for 1 expiring (+ future 2nds?).

This season is DEVELOPMENT, with Coach Keefe. Focus is team defense. Defense and defense. Ball movement. Everybody eats. Not watch Poole do all the scoring. Move the ball. Players like Bub, Kyshawn, AJ, Bryant, Bilal, Sarr will have to learn to score, learn to get their shot off. Set screens. Off ball movement, cutting to the basket, making the defense work. Making your shots. Getting rebounds, boxing out, getting loose balls, playing defense, getting turnovers to create fastbreaks, playing UPTEMPO. Out hustling the opponent.

THAT IS THE FOCUS OF THIS SEASON. Development. Culture. Establishing a mindset of TEAM and DEFENSE and SHARING THE BALL and HUSTLE. Play the young players full time with the vets/mentors to supplement.

C - Sarr, Tristan, Niederhauser
PF- Sarr, Bryant, Kyshawn, JC
SF- Bryant, Kyshawn, Bilal, JC
SG- Bilal, Powell, Colby Jones
PG- Bub, AJ

Work in Smart, Middleton, Bey enough to teach by doing, to show they are healthy, to stay in game shape and stay healthy, and produce enough with the intention of moving at deadline for draft capital.

The intention of the season is developing youth, establishing the culture of hustle and hunger, team and defense. Don't back down. This will ensure a top 5 pick in an extremely talented at the top draft to get our build around player and bring him in to a strong foundation already in place of youth and defense.

This draft is where that foundation is cemented.












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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1514 » by payitforward » Thu May 29, 2025 11:51 pm

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:The draft I want for the Wizards ....

#6. Carter Bryant
#18 Drake Powell
#40 Yanic Konan Niederhauser...

Ok by me.... only...

Who do you take if Powell is off the board at 18?
Who do you take if Niederhauser is off the board at 40?
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1515 » by AFM » Fri May 30, 2025 12:16 am

Dude wants to draft 3 non-engines.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1516 » by SUPERBALLMAN » Fri May 30, 2025 12:48 am

AFM wrote:Dude wants to draft 3 non-engines.




:lol:

YES I DO !!

I want to draft bulldozers for building the foundation. We'll get the engine next draft.


PIF, those 3 are the vision I have for this team. I just think they would fit in so well to what we have here already and what we are building. Defense, shot blocking, athletic, uptempo, unselfish. I would be very surprised if Powell goes before 18. He's generally mocked very end of 1st round/early 2nd. Same with Niederhauser at 40. Maybe deal one of our 4 2nd rounders in '26 to move up from 40 just to be sure. If he's goes early, maybe look to Kalkbrenner (4x Big East DPOY).

BUT if Powell is gone...I'd still be looking for a defense/hustle/athletic oriented player (Asa Newell, Sorber, Fleming, Thiero)

Niedenhauser is perfect for us though. Rim protector and can run, we want to be UPTEMPO. He needs developing, but has potential, can play with Sarr or back him up, and provides a nice alternative/mix with Tristan.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1517 » by DCZards » Fri May 30, 2025 1:15 am

SUPERBALLMAN wrote:The draft I want for the Wizards ....

#6. Carter Bryant
#18 Drake Powell
#40 Yanic Konan Niederhauser...

I'm almost there with you on Bryant. Still intrigued though by the offensive upside of Fears and Johnson...one of which is almost certain to be there at 6. Maluach also remains an intriguing option at 6.

I still want Coward or Sorber at 18. But I like Powell's athleticism and defense. He'd be a nice consolation prize if the Zards don't draft Bryant...although he doesn't seem to have Bryant's 3pt shooting chops.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1518 » by TGW » Fri May 30, 2025 2:37 am

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Well tbh I didn't know he was legit C size until just now. I was viewing him through the lense of a PF, comparing his skill level to other Fs.

I have to re-evaluate him as a rim running C and see how he stacks out against other bigs before really saying strongly how I feel about him. I still worry about his hands though.


If his hands are an issue, it doesn't show up in the statistics. His turnover rate is low, and his efficiency percentages (aside from the 3 ball) are high. His main issue looks like he fouls a lot, which means he may struggles with positional defense or defensive IQ in general.

All in all, seems like the ideal mold of clay at 18 years old.
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Pretty much. They aren’t trying to win anytime soon and they aren’t going to bring in players that could risk derailing the tank or losing their 2026 pick. So an 18 year old project is probably going to be high on their radar.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1519 » by WizarDynasty » Fri May 30, 2025 11:56 am

Muluach free throw shooting coordination tells me his hands are going to develop. His form is Very rare for a 7-2 guy. He shows really good bbiq.
His FT shooting.. it looks more coordinated than Shaqs, Dikembe.
Muluach free throw shooting reveals his unlicked potential. Very hard to get to where his with that form from a muscle memory perspective for a big.
Rare to find this trait in a young shot blocking big. So FT form of Muluach catapults him to top 5.
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Re: 2025 Draft Thread - Part 2 

Post#1520 » by gesa2 » Fri May 30, 2025 12:23 pm

WizarDynasty wrote:Muluach free throw shooting coordination tells me his hands are going to develop. His form is Very rare for a 7-2 guy. He shows really good bbiq.
His FT shooting.. it looks more coordinated than Shaqs, Dikembe.
Muluach free throw shooting reveals his unlicked potential. Very hard to get to where his with that form from a muscle memory perspective for a big.
Rare to find this trait in a young shot blocking big. So FT form of Muluach catapults him to top 5.

The only problem is that he actually doesn’t block many shots for a rim protector
Making extreme statements like "only" sounds like there are "no" Jokics in this draft? Jokic is an engine that was drafted in the 2nd round. Always a chance to see diamond dropped by sloppy burgular after a theft.
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