2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

[Dogen]

Woah, if Fleming is there at 28 you've gotta take him..I kind of doubt he'll fall that far but you never know..

yea, Fleming sliding seems like the best outcome so we get at least one guy with a good floor of physicality/athleticism/shooting with our two picks

Fleming at 28 gots Timelord redux vibes fo sho.

[Celts17Pride]

We worked out Gabe Dorsey. Who's Gabe Dorsey?

I had no clue until about 15 mins ago. But apparently he can shoot. Really good 3 FG% (on good volume) and FT% numbers. And he's an older guy..not sure how old but he's a senior..

Updated list of players we've worked out:


So far, only guards/wings. And pretty much all shooters.

Seriously, if you look at the list of players the Celtics have worked out it has trade down written all over it. Brad Stevens trading down and collecting 2nd round picks.

[GoCeltics123]

We worked out Gabe Dorsey. Who's Gabe Dorsey?

I had no clue until about 15 mins ago. But apparently he can shoot. Really good 3 FG% (on good volume) and FT% numbers. And he's an older guy..not sure how old but he's a senior..

Updated list of players we've worked out:


So far, only guards/wings. And pretty much all shooters.

Seriously, if you look at the list of players the Celtics have worked out it has trade down written all over it. Brad Stevens trading down and collecting 2nd round picks.

Bill Belichick somewhere is smiling

Spoiler:

Because of Jordon Hudson, but also, he would approve of Brad's strategy

[redslastlaugh]

Seriously, if you look at the list of players the Celtics have worked out it has trade down written all over it. Brad Stevens trading down and collecting 2nd round picks.

Generally speaking, I don't mind trading down as a strategy. 2023 draft night trade downs, Brad walked away with 4 future picks and Jordan Walsh. I thought that was great business.

But also, Brad has gotten so little out of the draft. He's moved pick #16 (2021), #25 (2022), #25 & #29 (2023), #14 (2024) and future picks/swaps in 2028 & 2029 for veteran players ... if you look at the Pop Spurs, the current Thunder and the current Pacers it becomes extremely apparent that hitting on non-lottery picks is critical to financial viability of your team. If you are constantly flipping your picks for good players making $20 million to $35 million, as Brad has done, you get very old and very expensive very quickly.

If we aren't picking #28 and #32 and trading them for other purposes, I would understand it but it'd be a little depressing. What is to be gained from adding 4 future 2nds at this point? With tatum out for the year and a $275 million tax bill and no rotation players under 25 yrs... this is the year to add some rookies imo

[playa-hater]

Kobe Sanders?

A 6-9 Forward with PG skills?

Watch on YouTube

Definitely interested. Love size/versatility. First impression is he looks like he has solid Fundamentals but looks a bit slow footed on offense. Slow-Mo Anderson with a real jumper comes to mind. Biggest concern might be his level of competition.

I think Portsmouth may answer some of those questions.

This guy is looking better and better to me.

He can legit handle the basketball which is my number one target right now. He plays downhill which we need. He has a soft midrange jumper and gets after it on the defensive end.

Hope they take a closer look.

Well, the more you keep talking about him, the more I have looked. And yes, I am becoming more and more of a fan.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

We worked out Gabe Dorsey. Who's Gabe Dorsey?

I had no clue until about 15 mins ago. But apparently he can shoot. Really good 3 FG% (on good volume) and FT% numbers. And he's an older guy..not sure how old but he's a senior..

Updated list of players we've worked out:


So far, only guards/wings. And pretty much all shooters.

Seriously, if you look at the list of players the Celtics have worked out it has trade down written all over it. Brad Stevens trading down and collecting 2nd round picks.

I don't think you can make that assumption from the list of player the Celtics have worked out because:
- These are only the reported workouts, there's probably a bunch more we don't know about including guys projected to go before the Celtics' picks that don't won't to advertise they are working out for teams below their expected range.
- We are a month away from the draft, there's plenty of time to get guys into the buulding for workouts still. The better players tend to have their workouts scheduled later as the more fringe guys need more feedback (i.e. do more workouts) before deciding to stay in the draft or not). It's not completely unrealistic to believe that Boston expected to go an a deeper run and scheduled the workout with the guys they covet the most in mid June when the front office/coaching staff could be more focused on that than the ongoing playoff run.
- The Celtics only worked out three first round caliber prospects last year and they didn't moved back.

None of Dallas, San Anotonio and Charlotte have worked out a top-60 prospect yet according to https://hoopshype.com/lists/2025-nba-draft-workout-tracker-where-are-prospects-working-out/. I doubt that means they plan to trade out of the draft.

[playa-hater]

Woah, if Fleming is there at 28 you've gotta take him..I kind of doubt he'll fall that far but you never know..

yea, Fleming sliding seems like the best outcome so we get at least one guy with a good floor of physicality/athleticism/shooting with our two picks

Fleming at 28 gots Timelord redux vibes fo sho.

Fleming seems like the type of player you want to battle with when playing o k c.

[brackdan70]

We have a Hauser, so there is probably a need for a Niederhauser.
Yes this is how I do draft analysis.
Dudes combine measurements and combine athleticism is pretty interesting.

[return2glory]

Kobe Sanders?

A 6-9 Forward with PG skills?

Watch on YouTube

We already have that.

Watch on YouTube

[return2glory]

Watch on YouTube

We are going to need bigs. Al and Kornet might be gone. KP might be trade.
Ryan Kalkbrenner is underrated. I'm been watching for 3 years at Creighton. Baylor's teammate.
Hope he is there at 28 or 32 and Boston takes him.

[return2glory]

Watch on YouTube

I need to watch more of Peavy. Liking his game.
Averaged 17.2 points, 5.8 rebounds, 3.6 assists, and 2.3 steals per game on 48.1% shooting from the field in 2024–25.
Impressive numbers. Love the 6 rebounds, 48% from the field, 40% from 3s and really love the 2.3 steals per game.

[return2glory]

Centers:

I like Ryan Kalkbrenner for a big. Also hungry like the Wolf.
Need to look at :
Thomas Sorber
Maxime Raynaud
Joan Beringer

Wings:

I like Micah Peavy and Adou Thiero. I need to watch more film on them when I get a chance.
Also need to watch more of
Carter Bryant
Cedric Coward
Miles Byrd
Nique Clifford
Noah Penda
Rasheer Fleming
Alex Toohey

SG:

Tyrese Proctor is a SG that has good size and can shoot.
Ben Saraf

Not sure if any of them withdrew.

[winsomme2]

Kobe Sanders?

A 6-9 Forward with PG skills?

Watch on YouTube

We already have that.

Watch on YouTube

Peterson doesn’t have the ball handling skills.

It really is the skill that separates many many players. Aggressive teams getting better at defending the perimeter. We need guys who can legit handle the basketball. Not just be passable.

[winsomme2]

Watch on YouTube

We are going to need bigs. Al and Kornet might be gone. KP might be trade.
Ryan Kalkbrenner is underrated. I'm been watching for 3 years at Creighton. Baylor's teammate.
Hope he is there at 28 or 32 and Boston takes him.

I wouldn’t hate Kalkbrenner. Not sure how high his ceiling is but he would play for sure.

[Bill Lumbergh]

I'm good with Kalkbrenner too. I have wanted a big and a PG, but a couple of PGs, notably Philon, have pulled out, but if Jrue is dealt, we're gonna need PG depth, somehow.

[return2glory]

Kobe Sanders?

A 6-9 Forward with PG skills?

Watch on YouTube

We already have that.

Watch on YouTube

Peterson doesn’t have the ball handling skills.

It really is the skill that separates many many players. Aggressive teams getting better at defending the perimeter. We need guys who can legit handle the basketball. Not just be passable.

Peterson has the ball handling skills. He never gets to show case it in Boston because Brown and Tatum hall hog, especially Tatum.
I watched Drew at USC and he was a point forward.

[playa-hater]

Centers:

I like Ryan Kalkbrenner for a big. Also hungry like the Wolf.
Need to look at :
Thomas Sorber
Maxime Raynaud
Joan Beringer

Wings:

I like Micah Peavy and Adou Thiero. I need to watch more film on them when I get a chance.
Also need to watch more of
Carter Bryant
Cedric Coward
Miles Byrd
Nique Clifford
Noah Penda
Rasheer Fleming
Alex Toohey

SG:

Tyrese Proctor is a SG that has good size and can shoot.
Ben Saraf

Not sure if any of them withdrew.

Put me on a list that wants a center .. we desperately need a center going forward. But I also want a bigger wing as well.

[OnlyTheTruth]

Are there any guys that we can draft or aquire through trades that can develop to become what Rob Williams looked like. I miss that dude a lot. Timelord was the man

[Smart2Nesmith43]

We already have that.

Watch on YouTube

Peterson doesn’t have the ball handling skills.

It really is the skill that separates many many players. Aggressive teams getting better at defending the perimeter. We need guys who can legit handle the basketball. Not just be passable.

Peterson has the ball handling skills. He never gets to show case it in Boston because Brown and Tatum hall hog, especially Tatum.
I watched Drew at USC and he was a point forward.

I watched the Sanders video, there's nothing there that screamed good ball handler to me. There's like one crossover or advanced dribble move in the entire video which he does 25 feet from the basket while not even trying to break down his man. The passing displayed is super rudimentary too, it's literally all him giving the ball to the teammate closest to him. I really struggle to see the guard skill part of his game. It's a three minute highlight video so I'll freely admit it's not an entirely accurate depiction of his game but at the same time those are supposed to be highlights. Am I supposed to be impressed he managed an entry pass (barely) under zero ball pressure from the defense ? From what I've seen, I'd much rather let Peterson handle the ball.

[winsomme2]

Peterson doesn’t have the ball handling skills.

It really is the skill that separates many many players. Aggressive teams getting better at defending the perimeter. We need guys who can legit handle the basketball. Not just be passable.

Peterson has the ball handling skills. He never gets to show case it in Boston because Brown and Tatum hall hog, especially Tatum.
I watched Drew at USC and he was a point forward.

I watched the Sanders video, there's nothing there that screamed good ball handler to me. There's like one crossover or advanced dribble move in the entire video which he does 25 feet from the basket while not even trying to break down his man. The passing displayed is super rudimentary too, it's literally all him giving the ball to the teammate closest to him. I really struggle to see the guard skill part of his game. It's a three minute highlight video so I'll freely admit it's not an entirely accurate depiction of his game but at the same time those are supposed to be highlights. Am I supposed to be impressed he managed an entry pass (barely) under zero ball pressure from the defense ? From what I've seen, I'd much rather let Peterson handle the ball.

There's definitely better footage to see his ball handling skills. From what I can see, he is super comfortable dribbling the ball and operating in the midrange area. You can also tell that his instinct is to attack the basket. I like him from what I can see. I definitely hope they bring him in for a workout at the very least.

On a side note, there is a report that he worked out for OKC who targets these kind of guys.