2025 Draft Thread

emunney · Post #401 » by **emunney** » Thu May 29, 2025 8:12 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:His stock kind of took a hit when he went back for his senior year, but I still think if anyone is in the "squint hard enough and he could be the new Khris Middleton" category, it's Sandfort.

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Here's where I have to point out that Brice Williams had the exact same wingspan and standing reach as Khris. That said, I'd like Sandfort on a 2 way.

Matches Malone · Post #402 » by **Matches Malone** » Thu May 29, 2025 10:40 pm

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Frank Nova · Post #403 » by **Frank Nova** » Fri May 30, 2025 12:56 am

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emunney · Post #404 » by **emunney** » Fri May 30, 2025 1:22 am

Hawkins is such a bum. Smart player, no heart, no toughness.

emunney · Post #405 » by **emunney** » Fri May 30, 2025 1:23 am

It's wild to me that I just looked at two mocks and neither of them had RJ Luis getting drafted.

Ron Swanson · Post #406 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri May 30, 2025 1:28 am

Gross. Hawkins sucks. Nowhere close to being an NBA player.

JonHeist · Post #407 » by **JonHeist** » Fri May 30, 2025 2:03 am

This might be the worst 2nd round I've ever scouted

Baddy Chuck · Post #408 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Fri May 30, 2025 2:35 am

Wasn't Hawkins the guy Fotis was willing to put his life on the line for last draft?

emunney · Post #409 » by **emunney** » Fri May 30, 2025 5:12 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:Wasn't Hawkins the guy Fotis was willing to put his life on the line for last draft?

He's a major talent. That adds to the contempt.

Frank Nova · Post #410 » by **Frank Nova** » Fri May 30, 2025 1:58 pm

emunney wrote:It's wild to me that I just looked at two mocks and neither of them had RJ Luis getting drafted.

He’s staying in the draft too. Turns 23 in November. Going undrafted, especially in this class, seems highly unlikely to me.

Ron Swanson · Post #411 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri May 30, 2025 2:34 pm

If Luis were a better shooter I'd think he'd be going higher. As is, I don't see anything that makes him stand out from the rest of the wings/2-guards you'd be looking at near the end of the draft (Sallis, Sandfort, Tonje, Kobe Sanders, etc.). The NBA track record for high usage/low efficiency 22-year old juniors can't be that great.

What's the scoop from our Greek friends on Avdalas? Super raw (doesn't turn 20 until February) but he's got some tools.

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emunney · Post #412 » by **emunney** » Fri May 30, 2025 3:03 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
emunney wrote:It's wild to me that I just looked at two mocks and neither of them had RJ Luis getting drafted.

He’s staying in the draft too. Turns 23 in November. Going undrafted, especially in this class, seems highly unlikely to me.

Right. Just looked at a 3rd mock (Wasserman) that also has him undrafted.

He checks a ton of boxes. NCAA is pretty old atm, so the fact that he'll turn 23 early next season doesn't even faze me. The guy was the leading scorer for the #2 defensive team in the nation, 3 level scorer, Middleton's size, tested like an athletic guard, and he's not going to get drafted? I don't buy it.

Ron Swanson · Post #413 » by **Ron Swanson** » Fri May 30, 2025 3:18 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:His stock kind of took a hit when he went back for his senior year, but I still think if anyone is in the "squint hard enough and he could be the new Khris Middleton" category, it's Sandfort.

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Khris in what way? In the video you posted he reminds me of Bojan Bogdanovic.

He's got some hidden play-making/pick & roll operator potential IMO. 3PT shooting splits don't do justice how good he is in certain key spots that translate well to the NBA (40% above the break, pull-up shots), He's not as long but I definitely see the parallels. I'll also throw out "what if you gave Duncan Robinson a functional handle?"

Bernman · Post #414 » by **Bernman** » Fri May 30, 2025 6:02 pm

I was interested in Hawkins if we got a lower 2nd 1st last yr. He had a difficult senior yr, for whatever reason. But he checks a lot of boxes - switchable big, handling, passing, signs of shooting - to be another good 2-way option this season.

We have to think of players in that bucket when we talk about interest now. It's not just about the draft. Workouts actually mean very little to draft preference. You should really only work out potential 2-way guys cuz otherwise you're tipping teams off.

Frank Nova · Post #415 » by **Frank Nova** » Fri May 30, 2025 6:14 pm

emunney wrote:
Frank Nova wrote:
emunney wrote:It's wild to me that I just looked at two mocks and neither of them had RJ Luis getting drafted.

He’s staying in the draft too. Turns 23 in November. Going undrafted, especially in this class, seems highly unlikely to me.

Right. Just looked at a 3rd mock (Wasserman) that also has him undrafted.

He checks a ton of boxes. NCAA is pretty old atm, so the fact that he'll turn 23 early next season doesn't even faze me. The guy was the leading scorer for the #2 defensive team in the nation, 3 level scorer, Middleton's size, tested like an athletic guard, and he's not going to get drafted? I don't buy it.

I agree, I’d think he should have late 1st consideration at least. Maybe the shin surgeries and history of shin splints is a red flag but no one even in the 2nd round thinks he’s a possible NBA player? I find that kind of hard to believe. He said himself he turned down a lot of money to stay in the draft so would you really do that if you were worried about not even being top 60 in a weak class? Maybe he didn’t have a good relationship with Pitino and the college mafia put the word out not to draft him? Lol

JonHeist · Post #416 » by **JonHeist** » Fri May 30, 2025 6:45 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:If Luis were a better shooter I'd think he'd be going higher. As is, I don't see anything that makes him stand out from the rest of the wings/2-guards you'd be looking at near the end of the draft (Sallis, Sandfort, Tonje, Kobe Sanders, etc.). The NBA track record for high usage/low efficiency 22-year old juniors can't be that great.

What's the scoop from our Greek friends on Avdalas? Super raw (doesn't turn 20 until February) but he's got some tools.

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he's got some talent, isn't old, and might be willing to stay in Europe for a couple years -- no chance he falls to 47 in this draft

JonHeist · Post #417 » by **JonHeist** » Fri May 30, 2025 6:48 pm

engelmartin wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:What do you guys think about my boy Bogo? And by my boy I mean the guy I just now saw NBA DRAFT DOT NET has us picking.

https://www.nbadraft.net/players/bogoljub-markovic/

If you get another pick for free by drafting him count me in. Or even two BOGOs, I could live with that

he's probably a late first-rounder

not gonna be there

ShootingtheJ · Post #418 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Fri May 30, 2025 8:30 pm

JonHeist wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:If Luis were a better shooter I'd think he'd be going higher. As is, I don't see anything that makes him stand out from the rest of the wings/2-guards you'd be looking at near the end of the draft (Sallis, Sandfort, Tonje, Kobe Sanders, etc.). The NBA track record for high usage/low efficiency 22-year old juniors can't be that great.

What's the scoop from our Greek friends on Avdalas? Super raw (doesn't turn 20 until February) but he's got some tools.

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he's got some talent, isn't old, and might be willing to stay in Europe for a couple years -- no chance he falls to 47 in this draft

His agent could help deliver him here. It's Saratis.

Neokliss was one of the better players in the combine scrimmages. Low center of gravity with worthwhile lateral quickness separates him from most Euro prospects. He has the passing and ball handling you'd expect.

tski1972 · Post #419 » by **tski1972** » Fri May 30, 2025 10:18 pm

I usually don’t watch Marquette play, what’s the scouting report on Kam Jones?

BigO · Post #420 » by **BigO** » Sat May 31, 2025 1:14 am

Who's the best athlete in the second round? That's probably where Horst will go.