Dallas Mavericks 2025 Trade thread -- Roster and Cap -- 1st page updated on July 1st

[Mr B]

I'd give both Kyrie and AD to Minnesota for them to win now as long they give us Ant back.

Ant is the perfect guy to pair with Flagg. And Ant is just 23 years old.

Wolves would want us to include a draft pick like the 2025 1st rounder.

Seriously, there is no imaginable way the Mavs could pair Flagg and Ant. It would take Kyrie/Flagg to even get the conversation started.

Dallas can add LAL 29 1st, and Mavs 31 1st, and Wolves would still laugh at it...

Ye the only way the Wolves are trading Ant is if he forced a trade. He’s 23 and has already made a WC Finals. Minnesota also appears to be doing everything they can to keep Ant happy and keep the keep in contention. He’s not going to ask for a trade anytime soon if he ever does.

[Archx]

Incredible read. Mavs CEO interview sum up.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1kxv4f5/townsend_patrick_dumont_phoned_him_about_45/

One of the things he said, Mavs apparently grew their fanbase from what it was before the trade, after they got the Nr1 pick. He also said, people are calling and apologizing for cancelling tickets. He is so full of ****.

He's a marketing guy and it's a clear marketing technique, like when you browse for an item and it says only 3 items left.

Yeah, but did you read entire thing? It's ridiculous. Funny thing is, even CEO knew 45 mins before it happened and they all acted like they were surprised like no one knew. Lying front office that starts with the coach and ends with the owner.

[fuller4379]

Wolves would want us to include a draft pick like the 2025 1st rounder.

Seriously, there is no imaginable way the Mavs could pair Flagg and Ant. It would take Kyrie/Flagg to even get the conversation started.

Dallas can add LAL 29 1st, and Mavs 31 1st, and Wolves would still laugh at it...

Ye the only way the Wolves are trading Ant is if he forced a trade. He’s 23 and has already made a WC Finals. Minnesota also appears to be doing everything they can to keep Ant happy and keep the keep in contention. He’s not going to ask for a trade anytime soon if he ever does.

The only way we could traded for ANT was Luka. I doubt they would even take Flagg and Davis for ANT because they are looking to win now with the team they have.

[Mr B]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

[Archx]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

This is basically Cam for PJ trade with a bunch of throw ins.

I think it would be a decent trade for the future but not if you want to win now. Cam is 20yo and would grow with Lively and Flagg. If everyone is healthy, Mavs will have enough defense but will suddenly lack offense and shooting with this trade so it makes no sense for Nico's "win now" objective.

Also, Mavs need a playmaking guard and swapping great role players like PJ for another random wing role player makes no sense. You will have a hard time finding a good replacement for PJ.

The ONLY trade people should be focusing on is the one that involves Gafford. That's the only riddle Nico has to solve... but then again, who am i kidding, this FO is dumb as a brick.

[Maverick41]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

I don't really see why either team does it. Feels like just shuffling players at similar positions.

IMO if HOU does a trade, I think the likelihood is they go star hunting.

[Teffer10]

PJ and Gaff are probably our best trade pieces and I'm beginning to think we shouldn't squander the opportunity to trade the for players/assets in Flagg, Lively and Christie's range.
I'm afraid Nico will trade those players for old vets who wont benefit the future.

[Teffer10]

I wouldnt be totally against the suggested Houston deal as long as we could yield something similar in a Gafford/Martin deal.

At least we'd be accumulating assets that fit the CF/DL/MC/OMP/2026 timeline.

[Maverick41]

DAL receives: Jalen Johnson + Mann + #13 + 27 FRP
ATL receives: AD

DAL gets an ever improving 2 way young big wing in Jalen Johnson. He fits the timeline more with Flagg. Also get a lottery pick, a future 27 FRP, and cap flexibility. Also Mann who I've always liked and think he adds to the dog mentality on the team.

ATL gets a star to pair with Young. They put out a pretty darn good team out in the east with a SL of Young/Daniels/Risacher/AD/Okongwu. That team is built really well around Trae and covers his defensive deficiencies.

[Darren]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

I think Houston is pulling off a major trade for KD and/or Giannis. I don't think Houston keeps FVV at all. I think KD is likely ended up with Houston. Playmaker is their major concern. For Giannis, I am not sure.

If GSW pulls out a package without Curry or Butler, this is a deadly lineup. Minny may try to trade for Giannis but I don't think Bucks taking Gobert at all. I think Luka and Jokic may team up this summer. Both Lebron and Reaves are not countable building blocks. If Bucks take on Reaves potential ugly contact in a year, Giannis may end up in LA. I don't think SAS will trade 2nd pick for aging stars at all due to upcoming cap issues. I also don't think OKC will break the core for Giannis. I think OKC wins over Indy. In case OKC loses, KD could be their target.

The Mavs has to watch out on Kyrie's decision before any decision, though. If Kyrie opts out, that's a rebuilding route. Then, you look at Ja Morant or LeMalo Ball. If Kyrie opts in, then you look at how Flagg plays alongside AD and PJ before making major decisions. If things doesn't work out, AD for Lebron or KD or LaMelo is just fine.

Lively, LeMalo, Flagg frontcourt is appealing rebuilding blocks to me.

[Darren]

DAL receives: Jalen Johnson + Mann + #13 + 27 FRP
ATL receives: AD

DAL gets an ever improving 2 way young big wing in Jalen Johnson. He fits the timeline more with Flagg. Also get a lottery pick, a future 27 FRP, and cap flexibility. Also Mann who I've always liked and think he adds to the dog mentality on the team.

ATL gets a star to pair with Young. They put out a pretty darn good team out in the east with a SL of Young/Daniels/Risacher/AD/Okongwu. That team is built really well around Trae and covers his defensive deficiencies.

This is pretty weak offer for AD. 13 pick is rather weak, you can only find another JJ Reddick or Maxi Kleber in such draft position. I think you look for LeMalo Ball in AD trade scenario. But it takes a third team and significant assets to pull an offer.

If you trade AD, then Kyrie is moving on as well. A core playmaking piece is needed. And it has to be rather low risk prospects. If it's Egor Demin, I think it takes a couple of sweeteners to make it works. But in case Ball is available, I think SAS may pull a better offer than the Mavs. But I'd prioritize Ball for a complete rebuilding.

[Darren]

For a complete rebuild, I think AD to third team; Markkanen to Mavs with a playmaker in mix could be the direction.

[Maverick41]

This is pretty weak offer for AD. 13 pick is rather weak, you can only find another JJ Reddick or Maxi Kleber in such draft position. I think you look for LeMalo Ball in AD trade scenario. But it takes a third team and significant assets to pull an offer.

If you trade AD, then Kyrie is moving on as well. A core playmaking piece is needed. And it has to be rather low risk prospects. If it's Egor Demin, I think it takes a couple of sweeteners to make it works. But in case Ball is available, I think SAS may pull a better offer than the Mavs. But I'd prioritize Ball for a complete rebuilding.

Maybe it is but personally I don't think 32 year old, injury prone AD's trade value is as great as we hope it is. I'm also very high on Jalen Johnson. He's improved every year, averaging 19/10/5/2 just this recent season. The amount of games he's missed scares me but every game I've watched of him, he's always impressed me.

As for Ball, please no. Ball is not a winning player and still extremely immature. Not to mention even more injury prone then AD and on a max deal.

[Darren]

This is pretty weak offer for AD. 13 pick is rather weak, you can only find another JJ Reddick or Maxi Kleber in such draft position. I think you look for LeMalo Ball in AD trade scenario. But it takes a third team and significant assets to pull an offer.

If you trade AD, then Kyrie is moving on as well. A core playmaking piece is needed. And it has to be rather low risk prospects. If it's Egor Demin, I think it takes a couple of sweeteners to make it works. But in case Ball is available, I think SAS may pull a better offer than the Mavs. But I'd prioritize Ball for a complete rebuilding.

Maybe it is but personally I don't think 32 year old, injury prone AD's trade value is as great as we hope it is. I'm also very high on Jalen Johnson. He's improved every year, averaging 19/10/5/2 just this recent season. The amount of games he's missed scares me but every game I've watched of him, he's always impressed me.

As for Ball, please no. Ball is not a winning player and still extremely immature. Not to mention even more injury prone then AD and on a max deal.

Everytime I watch LeMalo against the Mavs. I think LeMalo is more mature than Luka. Ball is more two way player with better defense compared to Luka.

[Darren]

AD for PG and 3rd pick could be a real possibility if the Mavs head to another direction.

[Maverick41]

DAL receives: Castle + Barnes + Vassell + #14 + remove swap rights to 2030 pick (from Grant Williams trade) + 3 SRPs
SA receives: AD + Hardy + Powell

DAL gets their starting backcourt for the future. I like Castle a lot and think he can be a Jrue Holiday type guard. Vassell I like but don't like his contract. His contract is descending (kinda) though which is nice. Barnes expires next season which opens up money to resign PJ and Gaff. Team also sheds about 10 mil from payroll in this trade to get below the 2nd apron.

SA builds a contending team and an extremely scary defensive frontcourt. Getting AD means they can load manage Wemby a little after coming back from that scary blood clot issue. They don't need Castle with Fox and likely drafting Harper at #2.

[Mr B]

I’m only posting this trade scenario because I feel like right now anything is possible. I want to keep PJ but this is one that I personally would consider. What do you guys think?

This is basically Cam for PJ trade with a bunch of throw ins.

I think it would be a decent trade for the future but not if you want to win now. Cam is 20yo and would grow with Lively and Flagg. If everyone is healthy, Mavs will have enough defense but will suddenly lack offense and shooting with this trade so it makes no sense for Nico's "win now" objective.

Also, Mavs need a playmaking guard and swapping great role players like PJ for another random wing role player makes no sense. You will have a hard time finding a good replacement for PJ.

The ONLY trade people should be focusing on is the one that involves Gafford. That's the only riddle Nico has to solve... but then again, who am i kidding, this FO is dumb as a brick.

Cam is the reason I do this trade. PJ is eligible for an extension after next season I believe. If they are looking to keep costs down trading for Cam Whitmore and his potential might not be a bad idea. Like you said he’s only 20 years old and could grow with Flagg and Lively. I want them to keep PJ but if a trade is necessary I would consider this one.

As for why does Houston do this? Because PJ is better right now.

[Mavrelous]

Sadly I agree with this

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[MassimoPayne]

Should the Mavs look overseas for a "cheap" point guard while Kyrie is out? Like a Micic kind of type?

[Archx]

Sadly I agree with this

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Yep. I wrote exactly this a week or so ago. It will be a problem for Lively to fully develop if you keep playing him 20 or so minutes and he's not on the floor when it matters. It's not only AD but Gafford as well. That's why i am even more convinced Gafford will be gone.