Scase wrote:Raptors Realtor wrote:Scase wrote:For the last 5 or so years...I wonder why?
Likely because some posters have unrealistic expectations, and expect us to be contenders every year, not realizing all teams go through cycles. Thus, why there are different championship teams every season.
Or it's because posters like you have an inability to differentiate between contenders every year, and having a basic plan. This team has been aimless for the last 5 years with no plan in mind.
Siakam/FVV? Let's build around them, except we won't actually build a complimentary roster. Didn't work out? Better let one of them walk in FA and then hold 2 expiring players much longer than we should, but not before we make a short sighted trade for a centre who exacerbates the teams problems.
This went south? Let's trade everyone away and start a rebuild, publicly state this is year one of a rebuild, then less than 6 months later make a win now re-tool trade for BI.
People understand there are cycles, and you would be hard-pressed to find anyone complaining that we are in a downtime, what people are complaining about is the listless nature of it, and constant attempts to recapture something from 5-10 years ago that just won't work.
Or posters like you who are just inherently big complainers whose posts are rarely filled with anything but criticism. Buddy I've been watching the NBA since the mid 80s and outside of a small handful of teams who lucked out with all time Hall of Fame great level players, it's difficult to be consistent contenders for several years, which is what your expectation has been, at least based on your constant nitpicking. From 2013 (when Masai was hired) to 2023, the Raps had the 2nd most total regular season wins in the NBA during that span, having only been beat out by the Warriors who've been fortunate to have at least 3 Hall of Famers during that timeframe.
-2018-19 the team won the Chip
-2019-20 the team lost in game 7 to Celts in the Eastern conference finals
-2020-21 Raps win 48 games
-2021-22 Raps win 41 games
-2022-23 Raps win 25 games
-2023-24
-2024-25
You keep saying in multiple posts that the team has been crap for 5 years which simply isn't accurate. According to you we should have blown up the team after losing in game 7 of the Eastern conference finals to the Celts, a year after winning the chip, ya no hindsight there eh? The following season we win 48 games and finish 5th in the Eastern conference, so you would have blown it up then because that doesn't make sense. The season after we win 41, so before or during the 22-23 season, if we're being realistic/reasonable this is the season they should have made some moves. They then go ahead and deal OG and Siakam during the 23-24 season which is 18-24 months longer then they should have made significant moves, in hindsight.
Furthermore, they did entertain trading FVV and Siakam at the deadline of the 22-23 season... Do you remember the reported offers? As per Stein, the offer was FVV to the Clips for Kennard and modest pick compensation (likely a 2nd since they owed OKC all their 1sts). How about the reported Siakam offer at the 22-23 trade deadline, it was Wiggins and a 1st, it was reported that Warriors wouldn't even include Kuminga in a deal, not even at the '24 deadline... So do you prefer that Siakam deal to what we got from the Pacers? So essentially, we lost out on Kennard and a 2nd by letting FVV walk, after deciding to keep him for the playoff run after an underwhelming offer.
So if you want to complain, cool, but at least be reasonable, there's no need to over exaggerate to try and make your point, hindsight is fun and all, but it's not a justifiable basis for an argument.
