Zion Williamson accused of rape and other abuses

[___Rand___]

With the wage gap and economy continuing to trend the way it's trending.. NBA players making 60 mil per year need to be on their P's and Q's.. I remember Shannon Sharpe (who now has his own set of issues) said he wouldn't even get into an elevator alone with a woman.

And yet he hooked up with an 18 year-old adult film star (possibly before she even turned 18).

I believe she was 19.. haven't heard any rumors of her being anything under. But nevertheless still not a good look.

My god where do you guys get this stuff? Surely not from reading ESPN or sports illustrated.

[taikibansei]

This has Moriah Mills name all over it.

I am never one that automatically accuses women of lawsuit hunting, I won’t dismiss anyone as a liar.

Unless it’s Moriah Mills. If this is her, I’m skeptical to say the least.

I need context.

Who is Moriah Mills and why should I care?

Google is your friend here...though I'd recommend not searching at work.

[G R E Y]

Checks the math…

Women waiting years to come out with this **** is always incredibly sus. Feels very opportunistic.

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Will generally be sceptical when these claims are made against high profile people, especially when it's 'years' later.

The damage this does to the accused without any evidence (yet) is always bad.

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why victims don’t come forward.

Who knows if he’s guilty, and we’ll see how it plays out, but I can’t believe how many people who can never even fathom such a violation happening to them are so quick to judge and tell a victim - you shoulda done this, done that, why didn’t you do this…especially when it’s against someone with more power, more resources, more lawyers, more everything.

Again, this accuser could be full of it, but these same attitudes above make already violated victims afraid to step forward.

Unless you forgot to quote someone else, this logic doesn't check. Both posters said "why wait years to come out, that is what makes it suspect", you respond "this is why they don't come forward"... ok, that explains why some wouldn't come forward years later, but it says nothing about doing it immediately when the offense happens.

It's also a misandrist take that is common in our gynocentric society, where only the fallout for women is considered, but not the falsely accused men. Just look at cases like the Duke Lacrosse boys, those kids had their lives ruined over a false accusation, and when it was ruled false it wasn't blasted by the media nearly to the extent the circus of a trial was. There are people TO THIS DAY who cite that case as an example of "rape culture" or why you need to believe all women.

There's a lot of gray area in all of this, and anyone coming at it one sided, either trying to excuse men because "these things happen in bed", "they're liars", etc, or excusing women because "they were scared to come forward", "they should always be believed", is just seeking retribution against a single sex, instead of justice.

Our what now?

Woooooboy...

[Raps in 4]

This has Moriah Mills name all over it.

I am never one that automatically accuses women of lawsuit hunting, I won’t dismiss anyone as a liar.

Unless it’s Moriah Mills. If this is her, I’m skeptical to say the least.

I need context.

Who is Moriah Mills and why should I care?

She's the adult film star who has been trying to extort him for money since 2023. Her story has changed multiple times over the years (this is the first time she's accusing him of rape). Based on her social media posts regarding Zion, she does not look like a serious person at all.

This was posted last year: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7358953438832708910

And this was posted today: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7510333560528653610

Could she be telling the truth? Yes. But if you posted a video previously talking about how you're trying to extort someone, accusing them of rape after that doesn't help your case (they allegedly broke up in 2023, so both videos would have been posted after the alleged abuse).

[JujitsuFlip]

If found guilty, he should be banned/blacklisted from ever playing in the NBA again.

That is if found guilty, I have no idea whether he is or not, but these type of crimes have to be taken seriously and not just casually dismissed as another woman looking for a big pay out which sadly seems to be a lot of the comments in a high profile rape/sexual assault case

Civil courts do not determine guilt.

[ImmortalD24]

And yet he hooked up with an 18 year-old adult film star (possibly before she even turned 18).

I believe she was 19.. haven't heard any rumors of her being anything under. But nevertheless still not a good look.

My god where do you guys get this stuff? Surely not from reading ESPN or sports illustrated.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99pj3xj38do
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shannon-sharpe-names-accuser-19-184546172.html

Both say 19.. Where do you get 18 or "possibly before she even turned 18"?

[Cavsfansince84]

You know there's a saying that if you lie down with dogs you will catch fleas. Zion needs to get some self control because all of this girlfriend and possible baby mama drama is gonna take a toll on him. This is on top of hoping there's no truth to any of the rape type allegations. Zion is his own worst enemy.

[___Rand___]

I believe she was 19.. haven't heard any rumors of her being anything under. But nevertheless still not a good look.

My god where do you guys get this stuff? Surely not from reading ESPN or sports illustrated.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99pj3xj38do
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shannon-sharpe-names-accuser-19-184546172.html

Both say 19.. Where do you get 18 or "possibly before she even turned 18"?

I got nothing. When I say "where do you guys get this stuff" as in these stories about NBA players' private affairs. Surely not from BBC news and yahoo news? I must not be looking in the right sections.

[Curmudgeon]

Don't they have courses for players coming into the league to teach them to stay away from women like that? He may or not be a rapist, but he sure is dumb.

[ImmortalD24]

My god where do you guys get this stuff? Surely not from reading ESPN or sports illustrated.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99pj3xj38do
https://www.yahoo.com/news/shannon-sharpe-names-accuser-19-184546172.html

Both say 19.. Where do you get 18 or "possibly before she even turned 18"?

I got nothing. you read BBC news and yahoo news for rumors of NBA players' private lives? I must not be looking in the right sections.

That wasn't about Zion.. he was referring to the Shannon Sharpe situation.

[rand]

Checks the math…



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why victims don’t come forward.

Who knows if he’s guilty, and we’ll see how it plays out, but I can’t believe how many people who can never even fathom such a violation happening to them are so quick to judge and tell a victim - you shoulda done this, done that, why didn’t you do this…especially when it’s against someone with more power, more resources, more lawyers, more everything.

Again, this accuser could be full of it, but these same attitudes above make already violated victims afraid to step forward.

Unless you forgot to quote someone else, this logic doesn't check. Both posters said "why wait years to come out, that is what makes it suspect", you respond "this is why they don't come forward"... ok, that explains why some wouldn't come forward years later, but it says nothing about doing it immediately when the offense happens.

It's also a misandrist take that is common in our gynocentric society, where only the fallout for women is considered, but not the falsely accused men. Just look at cases like the Duke Lacrosse boys, those kids had their lives ruined over a false accusation, and when it was ruled false it wasn't blasted by the media nearly to the extent the circus of a trial was. There are people TO THIS DAY who cite that case as an example of "rape culture" or why you need to believe all women.

There's a lot of gray area in all of this, and anyone coming at it one sided, either trying to excuse men because "these things happen in bed", "they're liars", etc, or excusing women because "they were scared to come forward", "they should always be believed", is just seeking retribution against a single sex, instead of justice.

Our what now?

Woooooboy...

You know, how much women are disproportionately represented at the top of politics, law, business, academics, technology, sports, etc. Just the other day I was lamenting how this site focuses all of its attention on women's basketball and gives next to no craps about men's basketball. And all the other high traffic sports boards are the same.

The worst gynocentric outrage of all is how God is virtually always gendered as female. WTF is that? Could you get a bigger sign of the misandry in our society? How do people in the 21st century not know that there's no way God would have lady parts?

[___Rand___]

Eh let the court systems decide. I got no opinion either way. Every draft pick every player you sign is a risk.

[NO-KG-AI]

I am never one that automatically accuses women of lawsuit hunting, I won’t dismiss anyone as a liar.

Unless it’s Moriah Mills. If this is her, I’m skeptical to say the least.

I need context.

Who is Moriah Mills and why should I care?

She's the adult film star who has been trying to extort him for money since 2023. Her story has changed multiple times over the years (this is the first time she's accusing him of rape). Based on her social media posts regarding Zion, she does not look like a serious person at all.

This was posted last year: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7358953438832708910

And this was posted today: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7510333560528653610

Could she be telling the truth? Yes. But if you posted a video previously talking about how you're trying to extort someone, accusing them of rape after that doesn't help your case (they allegedly broke up in 2023, so both videos would have been posted after the alleged abuse).

So we do know it’s her suing? Yea, this is a mentally ill person.

[Indomitable]

A sex worker can be raped. Sex workers probably face the highest rates of sexual violence.

Chose a better job then. It comes with the territory.

A drug dealer is more likely to you be unalived.

I am not a woman hater and could careless what people do.

Still people act like you do not make choices in life.

Someone runs across the express in all black has a better chance of being hit.

What a disgusting thing to say.

Many sex workers were literally trafficked as children.

Others were forced into it by circumstance.

And even if none of the above apply, the rules of consent always apply. You don't get to rape someone because they have sex for a living.

Not all porn actresses was sex trafficked. Hopefully those who were found peace. I never wished ill on anyone.

Those in the that deal in sex are more likely to have this happen. I never said it was ok.


I simply stated an unfortunate fact.

I said some occupations will put you in bad situations. So will be life altering.

A sex worker will attract sexual predators. They are also more likely to become dependent on drugs or alcohol.

A fireman is more likely to die in a fire, get cancer, or have massive bouts of depression.

Plus we were talking about an Onlyfans model.

They are all trafficked. The person involved in the case is an Onlyfans model.

Bad things happen all the time. You are a idiot if you think I ever claimed that it was right.

I am simply stating that if you put yourself in a bad place. Crap happens.

Did I ever say they deserve it? I am saying the situation is what creates the situation. Honestly there are services that try to help victims.

I gave an honest viewpoint.

I believe changing your environment can minimize it.

I never said they deserved anything. I stated it is an occupational hazard. Changing it will help.

If you put yourself in a bad situation. Bad things will find you.

Be angry at society. I am not responsible for their plight and they are the only ones who can change it.

If Zion did commit the crime. Pursue the actual rape charge.

[Iwasawitness]

I am never one that automatically accuses women of lawsuit hunting, I won’t dismiss anyone as a liar.

Unless it’s Moriah Mills. If this is her, I’m skeptical to say the least.

I need context.

Who is Moriah Mills and why should I care?

She's the adult film star who has been trying to extort him for money since 2023. Her story has changed multiple times over the years (this is the first time she's accusing him of rape). Based on her social media posts regarding Zion, she does not look like a serious person at all.

This was posted last year: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7358953438832708910

And this was posted today: https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7510333560528653610

Could she be telling the truth? Yes. But if you posted a video previously talking about how you're trying to extort someone, accusing them of rape after that doesn't help your case (they allegedly broke up in 2023, so both videos would have been posted after the alleged abuse).

Hmmmm…

Fishy fishy fishy.

[Wingy]

Checks the math…

Women waiting years to come out with this **** is always incredibly sus. Feels very opportunistic.

+

Will generally be sceptical when these claims are made against high profile people, especially when it's 'years' later.

The damage this does to the accused without any evidence (yet) is always bad.

=
why victims don’t come forward.

Who knows if he’s guilty, and we’ll see how it plays out, but I can’t believe how many people who can never even fathom such a violation happening to them are so quick to judge and tell a victim - you shoulda done this, done that, why didn’t you do this…especially when it’s against someone with more power, more resources, more lawyers, more everything.

Again, this accuser could be full of it, but these same attitudes above make already violated victims afraid to step forward.

Unless you forgot to quote someone else, this logic doesn't check. Both posters said "why wait years to come out, that is what makes it suspect", you respond "this is why they don't come forward"... ok, that explains why some wouldn't come forward years later, but it says nothing about doing it immediately when the offense happens.

It's also a misandrist take that is common in our gynocentric society, where only the fallout for women is considered, but not the falsely accused men. Just look at cases like the Duke Lacrosse boys, those kids had their lives ruined over a false accusation, and when it was ruled false it wasn't blasted by the media nearly to the extent the circus of a trial was. There are people TO THIS DAY who cite that case as an example of "rape culture" or why you need to believe all women.

There's a lot of gray area in all of this, and anyone coming at it one sided, either trying to excuse men because "these things happen in bed", "they're liars", etc, or excusing women because "they were scared to come forward", "they should always be believed", is just seeking retribution against a single sex, instead of justice.

Ah, so the litmus test is that if you come forward right away, then people won’t question it? That completely ignores the point about pretending to know what it’s like to be a victim of ****ing rape, dude…and it’s so easy for others to say…oh, just do X, do Y, do Z when you and hopefully no one you know have any idea what it’s like to be the victim of such a disgusting crime.

So I’ll ignore all the drivel in the middle, but the last paragraph. Ok. So given that, it would make a lot more sense to see posts like this one from rand below, than always seeing a bunch like ‘she’s looking for money,’ this doubt, that doubt, I’m just going to immediately doubt the accuser.

Eh let the court systems decide. I got no opinion either way. Every draft pick every player you sign is a risk.

[Tim_Hardawayy]

Ok. So given that, it would make a lot more sense to see posts like this one from rand below, than always seeing a bunch like ‘she’s looking for money,’ this doubt, that doubt, I’m just going to immediately doubt the accuser.

Eh let the court systems decide. I got no opinion either way. Every draft pick every player you sign is a risk.

Right and ignore all the posts that say "Zion's just a headache, he probably did do something, it's wrong to question the "victim"" etc. Or even just the common sense approach, which is to examine the actual documented history of this accuser, as posted by another poster in this thread, with her admitting in the past to extorting money from Zion.

While I agree with the quote you selected, to be perfectly honest, in this case there actually is enough evidence (unlike in others of this nature) where you can throw a lot of doubt towards this accuser. In fact, the only case I'd say people are being unfair is if it somehow isn't also Moriah Mills accusing him, and she's all but admitted it now.

[thelead]

https://www.tiktok.com/@moriahmilly/video/7358953438832708910

HE is dumber than I thought

[Handlez]

Money grab.

[CobraCommander]

This has Moriah Mills name all over it.

everyone on earth was like....