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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#221 » by Neeva » Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:06 am

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younggunsmn wrote:Randle, Donte, and Dillingham is as high as I would go.
And that's because I think Rob is a bust and Donte will walk anyway after 2 more seasons here.
No McDaniels, no 1st round picks.
And I wouldn't give KD a max extension either, he would have to take a discount from the 60+ million insanity.

Trading for Durant would also potentially hard cap us where we couldnt go over the 2nd apron to bring back Naz, NAW or additional free agents.
So we would have to be careful about our salary and have a plan for what we are going to do with Naz/NAW and Conley.
In fact those things are all probably settled before we consider making any move for Durant.



That's too much too tbh.

I'd just offer Randle and Conley, if the math works.


Im ok losing ddv, just need a first coming back. Rob isn't on the table.

Not sure why you guys think a 37 yo on a high contract has any value.. if he has value, pass, and let another team pay it..


Suns fans think they are getting a haul lol and they don’t want Randle. Randle needs to have a good post season and up his value.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#222 » by Note30 » Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:01 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
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younggunsmn wrote:Randle, Donte, and Dillingham is as high as I would go.
And that's because I think Rob is a bust and Donte will walk anyway after 2 more seasons here.
No McDaniels, no 1st round picks.
And I wouldn't give KD a max extension either, he would have to take a discount from the 60+ million insanity.

Trading for Durant would also potentially hard cap us where we couldnt go over the 2nd apron to bring back Naz, NAW or additional free agents.
So we would have to be careful about our salary and have a plan for what we are going to do with Naz/NAW and Conley.
In fact those things are all probably settled before we consider making any move for Durant.



That's too much too tbh.

I'd just offer Randle and Conley, if the math works.


Im ok losing ddv, just need a first coming back. Rob isn't on the table.

Not sure why you guys think a 37 yo on a high contract has any value.. if he has value, pass, and let another team pay it..


DDV is one of the more valuable post rookie contracts in the league.

Hoping we can just trade Randle and Conley this off-season for a younger better fitting PF or PG.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#223 » by jpatrick » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:13 pm

DDV is one of our most valuable players because of the contract. I don’t think people realize what a salary crunch we are in this offseason. I don’t think Naz and Naw are taking discounts and both are key players. I would move either Randle, Gobert, or the pick if it meant keeping them.

I could see us moving Gobert, if he has a market, and trying to find a younger/cheaper rim protector as a third big. Not sure that player will be available at 17 though. But pick could be used as bait for such a player in a trade.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#224 » by TimberKat » Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:50 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Demi a goddess years after durant retires. Need to find another analogy..

But that is exactly what I mean. KD is the 6th best scorer in NBA at age 36 this year. He isn't AI or Westbrook that rely on speed only. He also doesn't have a body type like Shaq/Yao that breaks down. He can still shoot over anyone and play reasonably D. Karl Malone was all star until 38 and play until 40. I think KD could do the same. That is sexy enough for the next 3 years.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#225 » by TimberKat » Sun Apr 20, 2025 4:03 pm

younggunsmn wrote:Who needs Kevin Durant when you can have playoff Jaden McDaniels?

That is true if JMcD can be an offensive force every night - avg 20pts a night.

Although, your trade scenario we would have a foursome of Gobert, KD, JMcD (20 pts a night version), and Ant. Let's throw Tyrus in as starting PG (although I prefer someone a little faster like Davion Mitchell). That is Championship caliber stuff.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#226 » by Dewey » Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:53 pm

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younggunsmn wrote:Who needs Kevin Durant when you can have playoff Jaden McDaniels?

That is true if JMcD can be an offensive force every night - avg 20pts a night.

Although, your trade scenario we would have a foursome of Gobert, KD, JMcD (20 pts a night version), and Ant. Let's throw Tyrus in as starting PG (although I prefer someone a little faster like Davion Mitchell). That is Championship caliber stuff.

If JMcD cannot figure out how to provide a consistent presence, it becomes quite easy to look at options. See what he does…
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#228 » by Guest84 » Sat May 31, 2025 1:19 pm

Why would the team want KD?? Is it mostly for mentorship or do they actually think it's for winning? I like KD as a player, he fits almost anywhere but I don't want him on the team mostly due to age/cost. There also appears to be a KD curse going on. Every team after GS has done absolutely terrible since he joined.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#229 » by minimus » Sat May 31, 2025 1:32 pm

Guest84 wrote:Why would the team want KD?? Is it mostly for mentorship or do they actually think it's for winning? I like KD as a player, he fits almost anywhere but I don't want him on the team mostly due to age/cost. There also appears to be a KD curse going on. Every team after GS has done absolutely terrible since he joined.

It is obvious: KD is the only available superstar on the market who might have interest of joining Edwards. I don't buy ANY narrative about KD, because as we have learned from Towns, Randle narratives, they worth nothing without context. But if coaching staff and FO have enough context they can find a workaround.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#230 » by Ethomasp31 » Sat May 31, 2025 3:58 pm

KD will still be a top 10 player in the NBA next season. If we could move Naz and Randle and get KD I would do it. I don't want to move JMD or DDV because they are on valuable contracts for what they provide. I'm only trading them if we are getting Giannis. If we are able to sign Naz for $88M/4 years or if opts in I wouldn't trade him either. I'd rather not give up Rudy because of the rim protection he provides. Guys just turn around when they encounter him in the pant, but if Naz ops in or signs a long term deal that is good for us, my mind could be changed on keeping Rudy too. I'm ready to give TSJ and JC bigger roles next year.

KD can be a number 2 player on a championship team....I've seen enough of Naz and Randle to realize that they can't. It should be as fun offseason. The Wolves have made two straight WCF and have great short term and long term futures.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#231 » by BlacJacMac » Sat May 31, 2025 4:03 pm

I don't get it. KD is going to miss 20 games. He's not a defender or rebounder anymore. He's still as good of a shooter as there is in the game, but he's not a dynamic player anymore.

At 37 years old, I don't want to be the team to sign him to his next contract, so we're going "all-in" on the final year that OKC keeps their entire team together?
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#232 » by Worm Guts » Sat May 31, 2025 4:14 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:I don't get it. KD is going to miss 20 games. He's not a defender or rebounder anymore. He's still as good of a shooter as there is in the game, but he's not a dynamic player anymore.



I’m not that concerned with missing 20 games during the regular season assuming we still have a team that makes the playoffs. The question to me is who do we give up for him and what type of team will we have around him.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#233 » by jpatrick » Sat May 31, 2025 4:24 pm

Can we sign and trade and combine them in a deal for Durant? Could we combine a sign and traded Randle or NAW with other players in the deal?

I’m fine with moving Randle and one of NAW or DDV, but only if we can keep one of NAW/DDV on the roster and also resign Naz. I also don’t like the idea of giving up more picks, which is going to make it hard to get to a value the Suns accept.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#234 » by BlacJacMac » Sat May 31, 2025 4:26 pm

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BlacJacMac wrote:I don't get it. KD is going to miss 20 games. He's not a defender or rebounder anymore. He's still as good of a shooter as there is in the game, but he's not a dynamic player anymore.



I’m not that concerned with missing 20 games during the regular season assuming we still have a team that makes the playoffs. The question to me is who do we give up for him and what type of team will we have around him.


What if the injury is at the end of the season?
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#235 » by Ethomasp31 » Sat May 31, 2025 4:48 pm

jpatrick wrote:Can we sign and trade and combine them in a deal for Durant? Could we combine a sign and traded Randle or NAW with other players in the deal?

I’m fine with moving Randle and one of NAW or DDV, but only if we can keep one of NAW/DDV on the roster and also resign Naz. I also don’t like the idea of giving up more picks, which is going to make it hard to get to a value the Suns accept.



I would much rather have DDV at $12M than Naz at $25M...,.especially if NAW is gone.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#236 » by moss_is_1 » Sat May 31, 2025 5:00 pm

Main issue is how much KD makes. Naz and Randle are only ~45m and Kd makes 54 and that's if Naz and Randle are willing to accept their player options, because I dont believe we can just sign them and then combine then to trade. So we add Donte(11.9) or Mike(10.7). If we added Donte I'd want some kind of value back. I dont see the team trading Mike after they pretty much promised him a NTC.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#237 » by Worm Guts » Sat May 31, 2025 5:01 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
Worm Guts wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:I don't get it. KD is going to miss 20 games. He's not a defender or rebounder anymore. He's still as good of a shooter as there is in the game, but he's not a dynamic player anymore.



I’m not that concerned with missing 20 games during the regular season assuming we still have a team that makes the playoffs. The question to me is who do we give up for him and what type of team will we have around him.


What if the injury is at the end of the season?


If you have a team that, if healthy, is more capable of making a playoff run then I think it’s worth the gamble.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#238 » by Ethomasp31 » Sat May 31, 2025 5:02 pm

Ethomasp31 wrote:
jpatrick wrote:Can we sign and trade and combine them in a deal for Durant? Could we combine a sign and traded Randle or NAW with other players in the deal?

I’m fine with moving Randle and one of NAW or DDV, but only if we can keep one of NAW/DDV on the roster and also resign Naz. I also don’t like the idea of giving up more picks, which is going to make it hard to get to a value the Suns accept.



I would much rather have DDV at $12M than Naz at $25M...,.especially if NAW is gone.


JMD @ a little less than $25M next year and going up about $1.8M a yeazr for the next three years

DDV @ about $12M the next two years are contracts we want to keep!!

TSJ @ about $2.5M next year with a team option the next year is a contract we want to keep!!

JC @ a little over $2M a year is a contract you want to keep!!

Conley @ $10M next season is a contract you want to keep!!

Naz @ $25M or more and Randle @ over $30M a year are the ones I would try to move off from. I'm okay with moving on from Rudy also @ $35M a year, but you better have a rim protection plan or in will not be good.

As much as keeping good players, you need to move on from questionable contracts also, especially if they aren't a huge difference maker. Naz @ $20-22M a year for 4 years is a good contract....Naz @ $25-30M a year or more is not. I'm not paying $30M a year for a guy unless he is really good....and in my opinion Naz and Randle aren't worth that. i'm not sure that Rudy is anymore either, although what he brings is different than the other two.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#239 » by moretins » Sat May 31, 2025 5:40 pm

I think that if we want Durant, it’s going to cost us either Gobert or McDaniels.
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Re: Kevin Durant 

Post#240 » by BlacJacMac » Sat May 31, 2025 5:49 pm

moretins wrote:I think that if we want Durant, it’s going to cost us either Gobert or McDaniels.


I would hang up the phone if they demand McDaniels.

I could see them wanting Gobert, but that would need to involve us figuring out a way to get a legit defensive center to replace him.

There is no way you can run Naz/Durant as your bigs - unless you fire Finch and hire Paul Westhead to coach.

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