The Magic Kingdom my Magic PG plan

[Texas Chuck]

Magic trade KCP 16 for Monk (add 25 if need be)
Don't guarantee Harris
Don't guarantee Wagner(but possibly bring him back cheaper)
Sign Paul or Brogdon using TMLE in that order of preference

Kings get 1, maybe 2 firsts for Monk and look to backfill PG or keep selling.
Magic get more of a scoring PG who fits defensively then combines him with a more conventional PG who can shoot

I still think Orlando should aim really high, but its hard to know who is available and Magic fans seem uninterested in any of the offensive stars who don't defend well so going with my favorite of the cheap options.

[Godaddycurse]

I think Paul and/or Brogdon would sign elsewhere to ring chase if not promised a starting spot. Feel like its either that or Monk that can happen, not both

[HadAnEffectHere]

Magic just need to wait a year to see how Black, Paolo, and the Suns pick turn out before making any major moves. Too much uncertainty currently.

[orlando_joe]

i like all but monk part..like keeping moe ,houstan and getting paul or jones think harris gone ..could live with that drafting with 16 and moving 25 for future first

[Texas Chuck]

I think Paul and/or Brogdon would sign elsewhere to ring chase if not promised a starting spot. Feel like its either that or Monk that can happen, not both

Why do I care who starts? If they need that, Monk has come off the bench plenty.

[Skybox]

I like KCP and a frp for Monk...no way they get two frps

What is Brogdon's status?...if he's even ambulatory, why wasn't he moved (for anything) at the TD...a healthy Brogdon is better than a LOT of the attractive players (like Monk, for example) commonly floated for the Magic to chase with frps, etc.

Brogdon is only 32, plays defense well, shoots the 3 well, and, compared to the usual suspects - Simons, Sexton, Coby, Monk, Poole, etc - has actual PG credentials...I'm not saying he's better than those young guys today, but, even in limited minutess, he'd be a real contributor for any team...if he plays.

[Godaddycurse]

I think Paul and/or Brogdon would sign elsewhere to ring chase if not promised a starting spot. Feel like its either that or Monk that can happen, not both

Why do I care who starts? If they need that, Monk has come off the bench plenty.

Just feels like a waste to pay 1-2 first for a bench upgrade

[tiderulz]

I like KCP and a frp for Monk...no way they get two frps

What is Brogdon's status?...if he's even ambulatory, why wasn't he moved (for anything) at the TD...a healthy Brogdon is better than a LOT of the attractive players (like Monk, for example) commonly floated for the Magic to chase with frps, etc.

Brogdon is only 32, plays defense well, shoots the 3 well, and, compared to the usual suspects - Simons, Sexton, Coby, Monk, Poole, etc - has actual PG credentials...I'm not saying he's better than those young guys today, but, even in limited minutess, he'd be a real contributor for any team...if he plays.

Brogdon may be 32, but his body is like 50. he just cannot get or stay healthy. Monk isnt a PG, just another try of Orlando pushing a combo guard at point

[MessiahUjiri]

Monk would look great in Orlando.

I also think Trae Young (if ATL wants to sell) or Immanuel Quickley (if TOR wants to sell) would look great in Orlando. Trae is probably the best talent, but not sure what Atlanta wants to do.


Would Orlando be open to trading Suggs in a Trae deal? Trae is the better over talent, but he can be a FA next year.

[Texas Chuck]

I think Paul and/or Brogdon would sign elsewhere to ring chase if not promised a starting spot. Feel like its either that or Monk that can happen, not both

Why do I care who starts? If they need that, Monk has come off the bench plenty.

Just feels like a waste to pay 1-2 first for a bench upgrade

Why does it matter who starts? Monk could play 30+ mpg off the bench with ease, mostly at PG but also some at SG. Teams have long had 6th men who play starters minutes.

My point is they need more than one guy. I'd like them to go get a huge upgrade and then they could just run Joseph again as a backup with Suggs maybe playing some there too or even Black. But if not, I don't think its a problem solved by just one player.

And I don't have 25 as much of anything so if it costs that too, nbd, if they can get him for just 16 sweet.

[Godaddycurse]

Why do I care who starts? If they need that, Monk has come off the bench plenty.

Just feels like a waste to pay 1-2 first for a bench upgrade

Why does it matter who starts? Monk could play 30+ mpg off the bench with ease, mostly at PG but also some at SG. Teams have long had 6th men who play starters minutes.

My point is they need more than one guy. I'd like them to go get a huge upgrade and then they could just run Joseph again as a backup with Suggs maybe playing some there too or even Black. But if not, I don't think its a problem solved by just one player.

And I don't have 25 as much of anything so if it costs that too, nbd, if they can get him for just 16 sweet.

I dont see how Monk would get 30+ mpg off the bench when you have black who would need about 20 mpg and Suggs who needs 30+ as well. That leaves about 40mpg to split between 2 guards. I dont think Paul or Brogdon is willing to come for such a reduced minutes/role if Monk is getting 30mpg as well

[Texas Chuck]

I'm not worried about Black's minutes at all. If he beats someone else out great, but Orlando is beyond just giving guys minutes because they picked them high. Earn them or don't. Paul or Brogdon are playing half the game or less at this stage and I think both understand that. So there are plenty of minutes for Monk unless someone beats him out, but that's not a problem is it?

[Skybox]

I like KCP and a frp for Monk...no way they get two frps

What is Brogdon's status?...if he's even ambulatory, why wasn't he moved (for anything) at the TD...a healthy Brogdon is better than a LOT of the attractive players (like Monk, for example) commonly floated for the Magic to chase with frps, etc.

Brogdon is only 32, plays defense well, shoots the 3 well, and, compared to the usual suspects - Simons, Sexton, Coby, Monk, Poole, etc - has actual PG credentials...I'm not saying he's better than those young guys today, but, even in limited minutess, he'd be a real contributor for any team...if he plays.

Brogdon may be 32, but his body is like 50. he just cannot get or stay healthy. Monk isnt a PG, just another try of Orlando pushing a combo guard at point

I know...let's get a PERFECT guy. Someone with no flaws, injuries, aging, on a vet min deal. That was easy.

[Sactowndog]

Magic trade KCP 16 for Monk (add 25 if need be)
Don't guarantee Harris
Don't guarantee Wagner(but possibly bring him back cheaper)
Sign Paul or Brogdon using TMLE in that order of preference

Kings get 1, maybe 2 firsts for Monk and look to backfill PG or keep selling.
Magic get more of a scoring PG who fits defensively then combines him with a more conventional PG who can shoot

I still think Orlando should aim really high, but its hard to know who is available and Magic fans seem uninterested in any of the offensive stars who don't defend well so going with my favorite of the cheap options.

If Malik gets traded I think it is to Dallas. He is the ideal player to hold down the fort while they wait for Kyrie.

[SNPA]

Magic trade KCP 16 for Monk (add 25 if need be)
Don't guarantee Harris
Don't guarantee Wagner(but possibly bring him back cheaper)
Sign Paul or Brogdon using TMLE in that order of preference

Kings get 1, maybe 2 firsts for Monk and look to backfill PG or keep selling.
Magic get more of a scoring PG who fits defensively then combines him with a more conventional PG who can shoot

I still think Orlando should aim really high, but its hard to know who is available and Magic fans seem uninterested in any of the offensive stars who don't defend well so going with my favorite of the cheap options.

Monk/42 for KCP/16/25

Sac has to accept. Monk and LaVine overlap to much, and you can’t trade LaVine.

[Itzmotto]

Monk isn't a pg can he bring the ball up yes but he is a combo guard just like Cole Anthony.
Kevin Porter on bucks should decline player Option i would look to him as a more realistic option.... He had a bounce back season
I think Cp3 Will go back Spurs if not.Call it a career.

NAW i think made himself some money in the playoffs but like Monk not a true PG.

[tiderulz]

Monk isn't a pg can he bring the ball up yes but he is a combo guard just like Cole Anthony.
Kevin Porter on bucks should decline player Option i would look to him as a more realistic option.... He had a bounce back season
I think Cp3 Will go back Spurs if not.Call it a career.

NAW i think made himself some money in the playoffs but like Monk not a true PG.

no way the Orlando front office touches KP jr with his history

[Sactowndog]

Magic trade KCP 16 for Monk (add 25 if need be)
Don't guarantee Harris
Don't guarantee Wagner(but possibly bring him back cheaper)
Sign Paul or Brogdon using TMLE in that order of preference

Kings get 1, maybe 2 firsts for Monk and look to backfill PG or keep selling.
Magic get more of a scoring PG who fits defensively then combines him with a more conventional PG who can shoot

I still think Orlando should aim really high, but its hard to know who is available and Magic fans seem uninterested in any of the offensive stars who don't defend well so going with my favorite of the cheap options.

Monk/42 for KCP/16/25

Sac has to accept. Monk and LaVine overlap to much, and you can’t trade LaVine.

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If there is anyplace you might be able to trade LaVine it’s Orlando. He instantly becomes their best 3 point shooter and it’s not close. He would fit well between Suggs and Wagner and balance the line up.


I didn’t realize how poorly the Magic shoot the 3 until I looked. If you look at players playing more than 20 min

Kings
LaVine 44%


KCP 34.2%
Da Silva 33.5%
Banchero 32.0%

[LightTheBeam]

25 not needed. Monk for 16 is fine. Id take Isaac or KCP as the filler.

[daoneandonly]

Monk def should be returning 2 FRPs no matter who is going out. Otherwise its sensible