2025 Draft prospects - thread 2

[LateNight]

Hah, sounds like we're all just throwing darts blind, then!

“We predict the bulls will draft one of these thirty players…”

[BullsSD]

Current Bulls predictions:

Givony/ESPN: Queen (also available Beringer, Bryant, Essengue)
CBS: Maluach (Bryant, Sorber, Wolf)
SI: Queen (Essengue, Bryant, Traore)
The Athletic: Bryant (Traore, Essengue, Wolf)
NBAdraft.net: Queen (Clifford, Sorber)
The Ringer: Jase (Demin, Wolf, Coward)
KOC/Yahoo: Powell (Jase, Maluach, Newell)
Bleacher Report: CMB (Queen, Coward, McNeely)

It's all about timing and sentiment at the TIME of the daft. Used to see almost zero Queen being mocked 12, now it's everywhere.

[Muzbar]

Current Bulls predictions:

Givony/ESPN: Queen (also available Beringer, Bryant, Essengue)
CBS: Maluach (Bryant, Sorber, Wolf)
SI: Queen (Essengue, Bryant, Traore)
The Athletic: Bryant (Traore, Essengue, Wolf)
NBAdraft.net: Queen (Clifford, Sorber)
The Ringer: Jase (Demin, Wolf, Coward)
KOC/Yahoo: Powell (Jase, Maluach, Newell)
Bleacher Report: CMB (Queen, Coward, McNeely)

I hate 5 of those mocks. Gross.

[Jvaughn]

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Ah, Newell is doing the Willie Cauley Stein's predeaft strategy. Continue to try to convince the mases, that you're a stretch big throughout the process.

[rosenthall]

Current Bulls predictions:

Givony/ESPN: Queen (also available Beringer, Bryant, Essengue)
CBS: Maluach (Bryant, Sorber, Wolf)
SI: Queen (Essengue, Bryant, Traore)
The Athletic: Bryant (Traore, Essengue, Wolf)
NBAdraft.net: Queen (Clifford, Sorber)
The Ringer: Jase (Demin, Wolf, Coward)
KOC/Yahoo: Powell (Jase, Maluach, Newell)
Bleacher Report: CMB (Queen, Coward, McNeely)

It's all about timing and sentiment at the TIME of the daft. Used to see almost zero Queen being mocked 12, now it's everywhere.

I think people underestimate how many of these mock drafts just ape each other. Maybe a few of them have some actual intel, but once it breaks the chips just realign around new assumptions without them actually doing any new scouting.

[samwana]

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Ah, Newell is doing the Willie Cauley Stein's predeaft strategy. Continue to try to convince the mases, that you're a stretch big throughout the process.

He's coming to Chicago next.

[Almost Retired]

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Ah, Newell is doing the Willie Cauley Stein's predeaft strategy. Continue to try to convince the mases, that you're a stretch big throughout the process.

He's coming to Chicago next.

Probably too tall for AK. He prefers a roster made up almost entirely of guards and also wings that can't shoot that well.

[HomoSapien]

None of us are talking about Nique Clifford because he's a senior, but there's a lot to like about his game.

[Muzbar]

None of us are talking about Nique Crawford because he's a senior, but there's a lot to like about his game.

Nique Clifford is a senior and will turn 24 early into his first season. That's why no one is talking about him.

However, he did put up some really nice numbers this last season, 9.6rpg for a guard/wing is very good and he was very efficient and tested well athleticly also.

Edit: Ner ner, got in before you could edit it.

[Jvaughn]

None of us are talking about Nique Clifford because he's a senior, but there's a lot to like about his game.

Yeah, definitely like him. If we trade down or buy an early second, he could be a target.

[Rose2Boozer]

None of us are talking about Nique Clifford because he's a senior, but there's a lot to like about his game.

Cedric Coward stole his buzz.

[2weekswithpay]

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Probably goes top 10.

[2weekswithpay]

Clifford is older, but he's probably a safer bet than Coward. Coward has better measurements and shooting, but is worse in everything else.

[Jvaughn]

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Probably goes top 10.

Kid is really blossoming at the right time. Definitely in that top 7-10 range.

[2weekswithpay]

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[Dan Z]

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Probably goes top 10.

Kid is really blossoming at the right time. Definitely in that top 7-10 range.

I like his potential. If he's there at 12 I'd be okay with the Bulls drafting him.

Right now this is Tankathon's mock:
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
VJ
Fears
Tre Johnson
Kon
KJ
Malauch
CMB
Noa Essenge (at 11 to Portland).

I think there's a chance he's there at 12.

[Muzbar]

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Probably goes top 10.

Kid is really blossoming at the right time. Definitely in that top 7-10 range.

I like his potential. If he's there at 12 I'd be okay with the Bulls drafting him.

Right now this is Tankathon's mock:
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
VJ
Fears
Tre Johnson
Kon
KJ
Malauch
CMB
Noa Essenge (at 11 to Portland).

I think there's a chance he's there at 12.

I have Noa in my top 3 at #12. He'd be a very solid pick up.

[DropStep]

Reposting for grins - this guy used college stats from successful NBA players to try to determine out which college stats transfer and which aren't important, hoping it will unearth overlooked guys. The second person he mentions is Nique Clifford. https://substack.com/@coreytulaba/p-152569003

[BullsSD]

Kid is really blossoming at the right time. Definitely in that top 7-10 range.

I like his potential. If he's there at 12 I'd be okay with the Bulls drafting him.

Right now this is Tankathon's mock:
Flagg
Harper
Bailey
VJ
Fears
Tre Johnson
Kon
KJ
Malauch
CMB
Noa Essenge (at 11 to Portland).

I think there's a chance he's there at 12.

I have Noa in my top 3 at #12. He'd be a very solid pick up.

I feel like I am in a solo camp here, but when I watch Essengue, I see a poor man's Rasheer Fleming. He may be more athetic and younger, but to the eyes, Flemming does everything Essengue does, but better... AND he's longer with a 3 ball that is miles ahead of Noa.

Will not be mad at Essengue at #12. Just will never forget these draft thoughts if Fleming becomes Naz Reid and how much he could help Buzelis develop.

EDIT: Breaking down side by side comparison via NBA Daft.net.

CATEGORY/ESSENGUE/FLEMING
Athleticism 8/9 FLEMING
Size 9/9 WASH
Defense 8/8 WASH
Strength 7/8 FLEMING
Quickness 8/8 WASH
Leadership 7/6 ESSENGUE
Jump Shot 7/8 FLEMING
NBA Ready 7/8 FLEMING
Ball Handling 8 ESSENGUE (NO FLEMING SCORE)
REBOUNDING 8 FLEMING (NO ESSENGUE SCORE)
Potential 8/8
Passing 7 ESSENGUE (NO FLEMING SCORE)
Post Skills 7 FLEMING (NO ESSENGUE SCORE)
Intangibles 8/7 ESSENGUE

OVERALL
ESSENGUE - 92
FLEMING - 94

Do I need my 4 to have leadership, ball handling, and passing skills? Not really. I much rather have athleticism, length, rebounding, 3 point shooting, and post skills, but that's just me.

[The Box Office]

Noa Essengue can go coast to coast dribbling the ball and dunk on fools. Seen him do that multiple times in videos. That's incredible for a kid his size.
Also, passing ability is GREAT. Not having passing ability places limitations on any player.