2025 NBA Draft (2)

[Negrodamus]

I can also stomach Tre Johnson. I don't think he'll ever be a good defensive player, but I can see him becoming taller Jamal Murray. The fit is a disaster but I fully trust the off the dribble shot translating to the next level, particularly from three. Would love him to become something better near the rim though, particularly as it relates to drawing fouls.

[eyeatoma]

I'd say if we don't go Ace, Tre is next man up for me. That stroke is pure, and almost Kobe esque. The d might not be there, but if he's going to be that good, I figure you can build around that properly.

Don't want VJ. I'm tired of players who can't shoot.

Edit: Spoke too soon about VJ, warming up to him too lmfao!

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Rewind back to October:
"This draft is so deep! Three potential all NBA players along with multiple all stars, too bad we won't be involved."

Rewind back to January:
"We might as well tank! If we're going to do it, now is the time, this draft is loaded with talent.

Present day:
Harper is an average athlete, can't shoot, Bailey sucks, Johnson can't defend, Edgecombe is Gary Payton Jr at best. Cooper Flagg is the only good player in this draft.

Yeah, we are absolutely back!

Just imagine if we had landed #1 and Flagg was no longer really a generational prospect, there were calls to move the pick for Giannis or Durant, and we had videos picking apart Flagg's game. Your head might explode.

We should probably explore the themes of actually giving someone a chance. Scent Of A Woman 1992, Al Pacino would be a good starting point. Or better yet...Finding Nemo...Because I feel like a lot of you on here (not you) act like Nemos dad. I'm more like Crush (Dad turtle). "Let's wait and see what squirter does."

[M2J]

I agree that VJ is a flawed prospect and wouldn’t blink twice if those flaws led to us selecting someone else. But comparing him to Zhaire is unfair imo.

I like VJ enough to say he has a floor of an actual NBA player.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I agree that VJ is a flawed prospect and wouldn’t blink twice if those flaws led to us selecting someone else. But comparing him to Zhaire is unfair imo.

I like VJ enough to say he has a floor of an actual NBA player.

And one that can remain on the floor and is postseason playable.

[M2J]

I can also stomach Tre Johnson. I don't think he'll ever be a good defensive player, but I can see him becoming taller Jamal Murray. The fit is a disaster but I fully trust the off the dribble shot translating to the next level, particularly from three. Would love him to become something better near the rim though, particularly as it relates to drawing fouls.

I think Tre will be an offensive stud. Problem is, I think he'll be an offensive stud that's a 6th man. In large with his defense. The guy is long too and I truly believe he'll benefit along with Ace and VJ as being a player that should come in and play with talent as the top 3 teams can provide. Tre could be going to play with some level of talent in utah, but I mean players you'd respect.

Like say what you will about Joel, but we know for a fact that he'll threaten you slap the s*** out of a young player if they're not doing the right things on court . Rather than going to DC where the player is the face of the team essentially and getting doors opened for them learning some bad traits. Also Nurse is a tough nut to crack if you're a young player playing poorly... He'll barely let you play when tanking

Back to Tre, one thing I'll credit him with that intrigued me in regards to his ability to potentially defend us his 6'10+ wingspan. Like he can maybe at least fit well in a zone

[M2J]

Watch on YouTube

[Negrodamus]

Watch on YouTube

Tre's first question had me wondering how these goons got all of the top draft prospects to sit down with them and answer goofy questions.

[Mik317]

I'd say if we don't go Ace, Tre is next man up for me. That stroke is pure, and almost Kobe esque. The d might not be there, but if he's going to be that good, I figure you can build around that properly.

Don't want VJ. I'm tired of players who can't shoot.

VJ and Ace shot the same from 3

[okboomer]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

[Negrodamus]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

I actually feel like he has the highest ceiling of the guys we're looking at because of his athleticism (which makes up for wingspan) and his FT%/shot form. I also think his floor is pretty low.

[okboomer]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

I actually feel like he has the highest ceiling of the guys we're looking at because of his athleticism (which makes up for wingspan) and his FT%/shot form. I also think his floor is pretty low.

Assuming Harper doesnt drop to 3, there is no prospect without flaws. The one thing you cannot teach though is athleticism and he seems like the type that wants to get better and better. The complete opposite of who Ben was.

[Black Mage]

I can also stomach Tre Johnson. I don't think he'll ever be a good defensive player, but I can see him becoming taller Jamal Murray. The fit is a disaster but I fully trust the off the dribble shot translating to the next level, particularly from three. Would love him to become something better near the rim though, particularly as it relates to drawing fouls.

I would think the team expects to need to trade Maxey or McCain if they take Tre. You'd probably have to use one of them to go land a wing defender. Watching more of his off-ball coming off set screens and staggers and I don't think Murray is the right comp, poor man's Steph was my thought. Gotta remember Steph came out as a junior or senior so need to go back to his freshman year in a minor conference.

I previously said I'd rule out Tre b/c of the defense; but if Morey sees a possible future Steph level offensive weapon then it makes sense at 3 and you just accept one of McCain or Maxey is getting traded.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

I actually feel like he has the highest ceiling of the guys we're looking at because of his athleticism (which makes up for wingspan) and his FT%/shot form. I also think his floor is pretty low.

Agree with you here. I like Edgecombe if he's the pick. I don't see any parts of his game that would cause him to be a liability on the floor. We've been starved for an electric athlete ever since Simmons pulled his act. If we draft him you won't here me complain about it at all.

[Negrodamus]

Kon comes off really self aware and intelligent in this interview. Feels much older than he is. The least self aware moment was him ripping on haircuts with the current goofy ass haircut he's sporting.

[eyeatoma]

I'd say if we don't go Ace, Tre is next man up for me. That stroke is pure, and almost Kobe esque. The d might not be there, but if he's going to be that good, I figure you can build around that properly.

Don't want VJ. I'm tired of players who can't shoot.

VJ and Ace shot the same from 3

I was about to say he doesn't have a good shot, but looking at his videos I'd say theres a foundation for sure.

His athleticism is ridiculous. At this point, I think w/e pick we make is going to be a good choice for us. Morey is best at drafting, so I'm confident we'll make the right choice.

Prefer Ace because of fit, and the need for an elite forward. But don't mind Tre or VJ. Just be smart with it, and get some assets if you're not taking Ace.

[FireMorey]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

His shot isn't bad. But he has a long way to go before he's able to use that shot off the dribble. He's shown he can hit shots when he's stationary at the FT line or in catch and shoot situations. But I find it risky to take a guy who offensively has no offensive arsenal with the ball in his hands. At least the other guys in the Sixers range have that. They have a variety of moves, go to's, etc.

Bailey, Kon, Tre, Harper all can just make shots that VJ can't right now. But VJ can do things that they can't as well. Picking top 5 I think you should always lean offensive upside though.

[Jailblazers7]

I’m struggling the most with Tre Johnson. His size and shooting is undeniably appealing and I could see him being a tremendous offensive weapon. But the fact that he couldn’t leverage that size and shooting to get to the rim or finish consistently in college is a major red flag to me. Add in the defensive concerns and it’s hard for me to project him as anything more than a specialist in the pros.

But I might be willing to risk it because his ability to shoot off movement and off the dribble at his size means he’s probably an All Star if he’s able to get to league average in the other areas of his game.

[okboomer]

VJ shot 78% from the line on 4 attempts. That would indicate the potential is there. He seems to be the type that wants to work. Get him with Tyrese.

His shot isn't bad. But he has a long way to go before he's able to use that shot off the dribble. He's shown he can hit shots when he's stationary at the FT line or in catch and shoot situations. But I find it risky to take a guy who offensively has no offensive arsenal with the ball in his hands. At least the other guys in the Sixers range have that. They have a variety of moves, go to's, etc.

Bailey, Kon, Tre, Harper all can just make shots that VJ can't right now. But VJ can do things that they can't as well. Picking top 5 I think you should always lean offensive upside though.

If Tre and Kon are going defensive liabilities, that is a no go for me. Neither are productive offensively for me to overlook that though maybe they see something different. With the current set of players most likely available, I think I will normally lean towards the one with athleticism and the mentality to constantly improve. Ultimately I think piking VJ will come down to if they think he can improve his dribbling. Daryl has been very good with drafting thought out his career, so whomever he takes Ill eventually be fine with. Though Id like them in an ideal world to trade the pick, and getting Herb Jones back would be fine with me. Maybe with everything going around with Zion the Pelicans finally decide to have firesale.

[Phillybul]

I’ve been all over the place when it comes to who they should take at 3. I’m back on the ACE train as I have been before he arrived ant Rutgers. And the other prospect I like at 3 would be Tre Johnson. I don’t feel his defense is that big of a deal if his offense is legit. And from all signs he’s flat out the best shooter in this draft. He may not be 3 levels as his ability at the rim is subpar. But creating his own offense, shooting off the dribble, moving without the ball? He fits the typical guard in today’s style of play.

I wouldn’t be upset with VJ. But not my preference. He does have a high motor and that’s what you want from a young guy. He also has that dog in him. I don’t feel he is as explosive of an athlete as Ant man or Westbrook. He’s athletic no question but I feel it’s a little bit overhyped. I don’t get that from watching him on film. Not that it’s some deal breaker.

I’m excited for the draft especially finding a gem in rd 2 at the top of it.